Its exactly the same level of play that many of us remember. No defense. No offense. Game over by halftime. This dud is destroying our football program and needs to be fired tomorrow
Welcome to week 3 of Shea
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bac is wrong!
don't be fooled by last year's record, we are way past week 3 of shea. 2013 was bad, and was largely on coaching, 2014 was ok but was foolsgold. coaching impacted the season, and we were ok at best. 2015 is a continuation of the terrible performances we have previously seen.
it isn't week 3 of terry shea, it's week 23....we've been bad for years.
I was going to post the exact same thing. Feel exactly like The Shea era... Weekly beat downs, games being over early, and as a fan having no hope of beating anyone but Army/Navy/Temple. The only highlights are isolated individual performances (currently Grant and his brilliant returns).
I feel like I'm back in the Davidson dining hall circa 1997... It is that bad.
I feel like I'm back in the Davidson dining hall circa 1997... It is that bad.
anyone who doesn't think we are at Shea level is fooling themselves. This program is imploding and given up. Its schemes on defense are painfully bad. At least during Shea though we had Jared Slovan
what of this mess is on JH? she didn't hire him. she tried to fire him. i get it, the ultra biased SL doesn't like her, so that must mean she has to go.
coaches she didn't hire have failed. burn her at the stake!
The hire is not on her at all. However, the events of the last year definitely are. Flood ignoring oversight, admitting that he blew off compliance training, professing ignorance of the rules, doing players' homework for crying out loud?
Arrests, home invasions, armed robbery? We won the Fulmer Cup this off-season for crying out loud! This all screams lack of institutional control. How anyone can defend either Flood or Hermann staying after all this is beyond me. Truly.
Wonder if OP will post a long winded post that Flood earned another year if we go 1-0 the next 3 weeks like he did after Maryland last year.
Wtf is your problem....floods biggest apologist speaks. Flood saved his job last year because he went 7-5. He wasnt getting fired. He deserves to be fired now and at 6-6-6 because he will never be better than mediocre. Its very clear and he has been given more than enough chancs. His embarrassing email fiasco combined with the failure on the field is more than enough evidence. I am sure posters like you will deflect deflect deflect
Nope. Not an apologist. Posted a legitimate question and instead, you deflect it to me. I signed off last week, and was on the fence weeks before. Get together with your other homies, don your Floodbeater t-shirts, and go after anyone and anything that does not agree with you 100%. Your original post accomplishes nothing. I have to give credit to the gofundme post by someone else. While a lame attempt, it is at least trying to accomplish an end goal other than railing against the obvious.
That stuff is on Julie how? Listen I'm as anti-PC as they come but this woman should be going nowhere. If im not mistaken all the student athletes arrested for armed robbery and the fight are no longer in school, never mind the kicked off football. This is 100% entirely on coach Flood. Were people blaming Uncle a bob when Shea was fvcking up this program? No because Shea wasn't his hire either. She inherited a disaster, this is not on her.
Correct me out I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that Compliance and oversight is the responsibility of the Athletic Director, not the football coach. This ain't Paterno's Penn State.
Also, when you bring up the Shea comparison, I think you're missing my point. I don't blame her for poor recruiting or poor results on the field. What I am saying is that when the football coach is told by Compliance to stop trying to interfere with a player's professor, ignores them, and nothing is done until the story hits the papers and Barchi takes over the process, it means the AD is not doing her job. These are department level failures of oversight. None of this happened overnight, it took time to get to this point.
Also, when you bring up the Shea comparison, I think you're missing my point. I don't blame her for poor recruiting or poor results on the field. What I am saying is that when the football coach is told by Compliance to stop trying to interfere with a player's professor, ignores them, and nothing is done until the story hits the papers and Barchi takes over the process, it means the AD is not doing her job. These are department level failures of oversight. None of this happened overnight, it took time to get to this point.
this may be true but we don't know for sure how this works either, I need more public information on how this works before I blame Julie
I didn't think so bac but even so it doesn't invalidate my point. I always made sure my team knew what rules we could bend, what we could bury, and what had to be done by the book. That's what I see as not having happened here.
That's fair. But isn't compliance with rules and training of the coaches one of the items that is directly in the AD's key responsibilities? See the job description for WVU:
http://adsearch.wvu.edu/position
-Providing leadership that adheres to the highest standards of integrity in academic, financial, and business matters, as well as NCAA rules and regulations.
-a demonstrated commitment to and appreciable knowledge of NCAA rules compliance, and a commitment to sustain the spirit and letter of compliance standards
And, I am not going after Julie. It just seems in its usual ham-handed way, Rutgers can never seem to do anything "right" when it comes to athletics. The e-mail scandal was on Flood, but I was surprised at the detail that he had not gone to training, and this was a new revelation. Considering the past fiascoes with Rice, Cohen, Fred Hill Jr., etc, you would think that training and compliance would be given high priority. But maybe they cut the budget on that item?
As per the "failed" drug tests by a walk on FB player. RU policy is once a player fails the coach and AD meets on the penalty. After two it is the AD who makes the call. If they go after Flood on this how can Julie stay
Not a fan of Julie at all after my interactions with her but trying to stay impartial but it is getting real hard
Not a fan of Julie at all after my interactions with her but trying to stay impartial but it is getting real hard
If Im correct what Flood did didn't violate NCAA rules, it was Rutgers policy. Its hard for Julie to anticipate Flood making a covert action like he did especially when he knew what he was doing was wrong. The head football coach has some autonomy over his actions. The report that came out didn't seem to implicate her.
Now it will be interesting to see the drug policy report that they are doing now, that's where Julie may be held responsible for issues along with Flood
he was brought on by Pernetti, was he required to go then, was it just assumed under Julie he went. Yes perhaps double checking should have gone on
well do we know if the drug tests were even reported by Flood. I also thought you were allowed multiple failures for football as opposed to the Olympic sports
If the report did not go to JH then we have a serious institutional issue. Drug policy was posted on either this or TOS when this was first reported but I can't find it. I might be wrong but from what I remember testing was done by a indepentant group, results were sent to the coach/AD and if there were multiple infractions the prez would be notified.
There was some chatter at that time that a BB player had to sit 10 games while a FB only sat for 3 but that was due to the 1/3 season rule for rebeat offenders
Again this is from memory
There was some chatter at that time that a BB player had to sit 10 games while a FB only sat for 3 but that was due to the 1/3 season rule for rebeat offenders
Again this is from memory
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