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Kyle Flood is a really bad recruiter. He can't even convince the brother of a Rutgers player (Hester) to come here. For god's sake, he has a sick mother and you can't convince the kid to stay home. Flood is absolutely one of the worst recruiters. I do't see how we can be competitive with the big boys with these recruiting classes that he is bringing in. I am sure they are great character guys, but this team is going to get manhandled in the next 2-3 years.

http://highschoolsports.nj.com/news...says-commitment-to-nebraska-is-coming-monday/

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If you're that disgusted every time a recruit you think you want goes somewhere else, then PLEASE go root for another team.
 
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I can agree that Franklin's a better recruiter.

I don't think he's necessarily a better coach than Flood. (Lots of PSU fans question his use of Hackenberg and even suggest that he has regressed -- perhaps a product of an over-reliance on bubble-screens and quick-hitters?)

One could actually make a very strong argument that Flood is the better value, comparing price tags.

Obviously that could change with the results on the field this year (maybe Franklin's recruits pan out).

But going purely on W/L results so far, neither is head and shoulders over the other.


Franklin is better. The day the sanctions ended PSU's walk ons and 2 stars(sanctions) did not turn into 4 stars. PSU had 5 healthy scholarship OL in camp last spring and most of them were not ready to play. Obrien ignored the OL. OB took over a team with about 15 scholarship OL and FRanklin took over a team with 5.
 
Franklin is better. The day the sanctions ended PSU's walk ons and 2 stars(sanctions) did not turn into 4 stars. PSU had 5 healthy scholarship OL in camp last spring and most of them were not ready to play. Obrien ignored the OL. OB took over a team with about 15 scholarship OL and FRanklin took over a team with 5.

With rosters of relatively even talent, Franklin did less than Flood. The difference when we played you was that Hack actually played up to his 4-star billing.

Franklin lost all the other conference games.

Oh wait, he did beat Indiana. I didn't happen to watch that game so I guess I'll give you that one and chalk that victory up to Franklin's supposed coaching prowess.

1 conference victory. Whoop-dee-doo.
 
Yea that was a school named Kent State

Yeah, because that was only 3 years ago in his 1st year as HC. Live in the past much?

I guess if you were an OSU fan you'd have wanted Meyer fired after they lost to VT because Kent in 2012 was a better team than VT 2014.
 
I'd venture that not a whole lot of NJ kids grow up rooting for Nebraska and don't have any interest in Rutgers, either.

Back to recruiting. Sneed and Pollack are not bad gets, not sure why you are making it out like I'm saying they are. They are also probably not the kind of kids that tOSU, Michigan, PSU or ND are grabbing on their first go round either, so let's not make it out like Flood killed it with them.

The problem specifically with you is you are always on here posting some type of positive gobbledigook - which would be ok on the surface - but it hardly ever turns out to come to fruition. You've been spouting it for two years and it's always around the next corner in terms of recruiting. And the spin is ever morphing so that - yeah, it's right around the next corner.

Dream Team 16 has morphed into "going to judge the class and not the zip codes

2016 QB has morphed from any one of the top guys, to Guarantano, to hey "we're going to end up with the better guy in Haskins." On Friday it will turn into "this isn't over until February." Then by February, whichever QB is signed to a LOI, will be a steal and will have turned down a late push by a big time recruiting school. And so on and so on and so on.

Honestly, I probably wouldn't be so down on Flood's recruiting if it wasn't for you, lol...

My bad, I'll try to be more negative and just always assume the worst......I'm sure you predicted 2 wins last year as well. It's easy to always predict the worst because if it happens it's "I told you so, if it does't you can make believe your are happy". "The Problem with people like you" is you can't keep things straight in your head. I never spouted for two years that it's around the corner. I said from the get go last year it was going to be a low rated rivals class because of the screw ups from the prior year. I have said and continue to say this is the year I judge his recruiting. I never once used the term dream team or posted we would get all three of those guys. Also, I only post about kids I either know or have first hand knowledge of their thoughts and decision making.
As for QB, I always wanted Haskins...still do and have written today that it would be a lose for Flood. I Was never high on JG outside of his potential ability to bring others with him. I personally don't think his career will live up to his hype. That being said, I don't put his going elsewhere on Flood because I know the backstory. As for the it's not over until Feb...it's not. Funny when we get a commit it's ok to say it's a long way until signing day but it's frowned upon regarding other teams recruits. You can always put me on ignore if reading a positive outlook ruins your day and makes you hate Flood and his classes. I don't want to be the bearer of more good news but I know for a fact that two of the got away kids plan on taking all their visits and multiple unofficial ones on the down low.
 
Kyle Flood is a really bad recruiter. He can't even convince the brother of a Rutgers player (Hester) to come here. For god's sake, he has a sick mother and you can't convince the kid to stay home. Flood is absolutely one of the worst recruiters. I do't see how we can be competitive with the big boys with these recruiting classes that he is bringing in. I am sure they are great character guys, but this team is going to get manhandled in the next 2-3 years.

http://highschoolsports.nj.com/news...says-commitment-to-nebraska-is-coming-monday/

https://twitter.com/KinG_QuaY_23
For every one of these dumb threads we should start an our fans suck thread
 
I have nothing to add. I'm just trolling for a reaction from the banned poster on Twitter.
 
I can agree that Franklin's a better recruiter.

I don't think he's necessarily a better coach than Flood. (Lots of PSU fans question his use of Hackenberg and even suggest that he has regressed -- perhaps a product of an over-reliance on bubble-screens and quick-hitters?)

One could actually make a very strong argument that Flood is the better value, comparing price tags.

Obviously that could change with the results on the field this year (maybe Franklin's recruits pan out).

But going purely on W/L results so far, neither is head and shoulders over the other.
Flood is a better value. So is Great Value brand cereal.
 
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The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

The sky is falling. It will become apparent in the next 2 years when we wont be able to even compete with teams in the B1G like Indiana and purdue. we were destroyed by Michigan State, Ohio State, Nebraska, Wisconsin with a bunch of good players. Sadly, I think 2014 will have been our last year over .500 for the next 5 years especially with Flood at the helm.
 
The sky is falling. It will become apparent in the next 2 years when we wont be able to even compete with teams in the B1G like Indiana and purdue. we were destroyed by Michigan State, Ohio State, Nebraska, Wisconsin with a bunch of good players. Sadly, I think 2014 will have been our last year over .500 for the next 5 years especially with Flood at the helm.

How much have you donated to change the situation?
 
The sky is falling. It will become apparent in the next 2 years when we wont be able to even compete with teams in the B1G like Indiana and purdue. we were destroyed by Michigan State, Ohio State, Nebraska, Wisconsin with a bunch of good players. Sadly, I think 2014 will have been our last year over .500 for the next 5 years especially with Flood at the helm.

Heard the same type BS before last season , when Flood was supposed to lose just about every conference game and half the OOC ones.
 
Heard the same type BS before last season , when Flood was supposed to lose just about every conference game and half the OOC ones.
You my friend are one of those that are blind to the reality. I got Killed on this board the Rutgers was a better team than WSU. Clowns like you kept saying this was a quality opponent because Vegas made Rutgers an underdog. I get bashed for saying it should be an easy win but you keep over rating every opponent. Lets be very clear Rutgers did not go 8-5 in the Big Ten. They went 3-5. They did lose way more than half of the conference games and most of those were embarrassing.
 
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What does Franklin have to with Flood losing a NJ recruit with ties to the program to a team that is basically our mirrror image?
 
You my friend are one of those that are blind to the reality. I got Killed on this board the Rutgers was a better team than WSU. Clowns like you kept saying this was a quality opponent because Vegas made Rutgers an underdog. I get bashed for saying it should be an easy win but you keep over rating every opponent. Lets be very clear Rutgers did not go 8-5 in the Big Ten. They went 3-5. They did lose way more than half of the conference games and most of those were embarrassing.

Rutgers went 3-5 in conference and 8-5 season. The schedule RU had made those like you predict 3-4 total wins and 1 conference victory.

As for Washington St, there were some ( so called experts) saying 8-4 might be possible or the reverse could happen, when they gave their pre season predictions.
The sky might not be always look good for the Scarlet Knights FB program, but those like you try turning a ray of light into an optical illusion.
Face it you were probably wrong on what you predicted RU's season would be like, so you hang your hat on losing to Wisconsin, Nebraska, Michigan St and Ohio State, 4 teams no one really thought RU would beat. The only loss that could have been expected to be a win, was the Nit loss.So lets be very clear, RU lost one conference game it was supposed to have a chance of winning and lost the 4 it was expected to lose.

Now bring up the blowout loses is a better way to try and prove your point, but looking at losses other teams had against those schools
shows RU wasn't the lone ranger there, but those type of losses should be considered embarrassing to Rutgers fans.
Rutgers won the games it was supposed to win and lost 4 games everyone expected it to win and added a loss to a team it should have been able to beat at home makes 5 conference losses understandable, but shouldn't be something considered acceptable in the future..
So clearly last years team wasn't close to being as bad as you're implying it was and probably picked it to be pre-season.
If you don't want too give credit where credit is due, your choice!
But don't expect me to accept the spin you put on last season , making it look more like a losing one than a winning one.
RU did far better than it was expected to last season, no matter how hard you try to deny it.

Glad you feel personal insults are a way to get your point across.
As for me , that type of tactic is usually reserved for a last ditch effort because someone doesn't have that many valid points in their favor
and becomes frustrated because they are having trouble trying to prove they are right
 
You my friend are one of those that are blind to the reality. I got Killed on this board the Rutgers was a better team than WSU. Clowns like you kept saying this was a quality opponent because Vegas made Rutgers an underdog. I get bashed for saying it should be an easy win but you keep over rating every opponent. Lets be very clear Rutgers did not go 8-5 in the Big Ten. They went 3-5. They did lose way more than half of the conference games and most of those were embarrassing.

So, an opponent isn't an underdog just because you say that they aren't?
 
Rutgers went 3-5 in conference and 8-5 season. The schedule RU had made those like you predict 3-4 total wins and 1 conference victory.

As for Washington St, there were some ( so called experts) saying 8-4 might be possible or the reverse could happen, when they gave their pre season predictions.
The sky might not be always look good for the Scarlet Knights FB program, but those like you try turning a ray of light into an optical illusion.
Face it you were probably wrong on what you predicted RU's season would be like, so you hang your hat on losing to Wisconsin, Nebraska, Michigan St and Ohio State, 4 teams no one really thought RU would beat. The only loss that could have been expected to be a win, was the Nit loss.So lets be very clear, RU lost one conference game it was supposed to have a chance of winning and lost the 4 it was expected to lose.

Now bring up the blowout loses is a better way to try and prove your point, but looking at losses other teams had against those schools
shows RU wasn't the lone ranger there, but those type of losses should be considered embarrassing to Rutgers fans.
Rutgers won the games it was supposed to win and lost 4 games everyone expected it to win and added a loss to a team it should have been able to beat at home makes 5 conference losses understandable, but shouldn't be something considered acceptable in the future..
So clearly last years team wasn't close to being as bad as you're implying it was and probably picked it to be pre-season.
If you don't want too give credit where credit is due, your choice!
But don't expect me to accept the spin you put on last season , making it look more like a losing one than a winning one.
RU did far better than it was expected to last season, no matter how hard you try to deny it.

Glad you feel personal insults are a way to get your point across.
As for me , that type of tactic is usually reserved for a last ditch effort because someone doesn't have that many valid points in their favor
and becomes frustrated because they are having trouble trying to prove they are right

Very well said. White Bus and I respectfully disagree quite a bit on these boards. There is no reason for those that disagree to insult each other.

What I find interesting and sad is the constant bashing of last season's better than expected results. Whenever we don't get a recruit to go our way, someone will invariably trot out a total doom and gloom picture.

But what's the point in doing this? It's clear that as a program Rutgers is having a hard time attracting the marquis recruits. Yes, Kyle Flood is ultimately responsible for recruiting. But look at what Kyle Flood has to sell versus the competition, boasting one or more brand new, astounding facilities, a winning tradition with national championships, and unlimited funds for top shelf coaches like Urban Meyer or Jim Harbaugh and proven assistant coaches.

But lets keep beating up Kyle Flood, realizing that nothing will change for at least another year, and more likely 3 years. If bitching and moaning on a message board makes you feel better, go for it. But if you really want to change things, perhaps you could get involved in fund raising or give your own funds to support ALL OF THE THINGS that are needed to win the recruiting wars--top notch, brand name coaches, top notch facilities. And I've got news for you--a top notch, brand name coach will not come to Rutgers unless they see a commitment to facilities and a budget for top notch assistant coaches. I believe we tried to get a top name coach in December 2013, and he passed because there was no budget for assistants.
 
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