I'm not one for declarative statements but the days of "playing down" to the competition are over. No team is perpetually immune to wtf loses from time to time but Pike has completely transformed the program in less than 1.5 seasons. The young front court players are coming into their own. Baker is getting more comfortable. Sanders is playing more under control. This is going to be a good team by the end of the year. Nit is the goal this year. The sky is the limit next year.
We've turned a corner
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Knock on wood!!!!
Really impressed with the way we played for 30-34 minutes. Really took care of business on both ends of the court. Not sure why we stopped playing, but I'll look past it.
Only concern is 4 perimeter players puts us in a bind with injuries or foul trouble. Fordham was very small and we couldn't match them if we wanted to.
Really impressed with the way we played for 30-34 minutes. Really took care of business on both ends of the court. Not sure why we stopped playing, but I'll look past it.
Only concern is 4 perimeter players puts us in a bind with injuries or foul trouble. Fordham was very small and we couldn't match them if we wanted to.
Yep this is a game under Eddie Jordan (or even before, really) where we would have absolutely blown it in the end (first of all, we would have never been up by 20+ like we were tonight), like I said earlier this year (CCSU?) - this team has a WTF game and still won it by 10+. Turned the corner indeed
I will always consider coach P's hire as RU baskeballs turning point
We immediately improved.
I think he will surprise us with his recruiting choices,
Heck...next year with Montez, Harper, Shaq Carter coming in and Peter Kiss being eligible
plus all our old guys with one more years experience
I think we reach another talent level
ur, Shaq Carter & Peter Kiss
We immediately improved.
I think he will surprise us with his recruiting choices,
Heck...next year with Montez, Harper, Shaq Carter coming in and Peter Kiss being eligible
plus all our old guys with one more years experience
I think we reach another talent level
ur, Shaq Carter & Peter Kiss
Nailed it...but I’m not “settling” for the NIT in mid December
Good point. Pike might get us to the bubble. Then anything can happen. A run in the Big Ten Tourney and you never know...
Not sure if serious. This team will have to win 10 conference games, minimum, to even have a chance at the NIT (let alone NCAA). Have you seen our non-conference schedule?
If Pike can lead this team to 10 B1G wins this season, he should get a lifetime contract.
I’m serious ...I called for this in October of LAST YEAR....and everything is lining up except for ONE thing
It called for seniorits
Deshawn has it
Mike and Corey (I consider him a senior as I think it will be his last year, and hope I’m wrong) are having a solid years but not but senior years ....yet
Everyone one has elevated their game a major notch
If Corey and mike catch fire ...especially on offense ...then my 10 seed prediction for this year made in October 2016 has a real shot of happening
It can still happen
A 20-win team from the B1G is in the NCAAs. We have no bad losses. Need a “great” win though ... tomorrow could be the day
Almost certain we would not make the NCAAs with 20 total wins including B1G tourney. Our weak OOC hurts, and the B1G losing almost all of its big OOC games seals it. We would need at least 21 to even be on the bubble.
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So . will be happy with a .500 record this season (16 or 17 overall regular season wins - prefer 17).
But ... on the NCAA bubble thing ... I think I agree, that 20 regular season wins (20-11) probably would not be enough for RU to get an NCAA bid this year given RU's OOC strength (or weakness). IF RU loses to SHU, as seems likely, but holds court otherwise, then RU would be 11-2 OOC, and 9-9 in the Big Ten ... I do not think that gets RU an NCAA bid ... though it MIGHT get an NIT bid ... maybe.
On the other hand, Shack is putting forward that if RU wins 10 (ten) Big Ten regular season games, that might put RU in line for an NCAA bid. And he MIGHT be correct. Because a 10-8 regular season Big Ten record, plus 11-2 in OOC, even with a weak OOC, puts RU at 21-10, regular season. THAT might be enough - and if not NCAA, that seems like a likely NIT bid.
On the 3rd hand, though I do not think it will happen, if RU beats SHU, somehow ... that puts RU in line for a record of 12-1 OOC, with a really good win against SHU, and a close lose to FSU. Would 9-9 in the Big Ten, for a 21-10 record be enough for an NCAA bid? Very possibly ... 10-8 in the Big Ten would mean an almost certain NCAA bid ... even 8-10 with a 12-1 OOC record might get RU bubble status, and a possible NIT bid.
It all seems not the most likely outcome, though, and is therefore hugely speculative (therefor fun, but useless other than being fun).
I am pretty sure 18 wins will not get RU the NIT - not even sure 19 wins would do so.
This game is almost essential for your scenario. We probably need 9-9 PLUS this win PLUS a B1G T game or two.
Williams has come to life the past few games which would fall in to he has been hurt narrative. Also noticed his hand is taped up pretty good.
Freeman has to give it on both ends of the court on a higher percent of possessions. His rebounding has been fine, but his interior defense at times has been pretty bad.
Corey is bringing it on the defensive end the 1st 30 minutes of every game. With the exception of MSU I love how he has been playing on the offensive end. Unfortunately without a shot his impact at times can be limited.
If/when we win this game I'll assign a small, but meaningful probability to your prediction. At that time we can look at the schedule and figure out where we need to be. The bottom line is we are in mid December and the concept of a NCAA bid isn't laughable. If someone gave me 100 to 1 odds I'd take them, not sure about 50 to 1.
18-15 or 19-14 probably not enough (assuming 1-1 in B1G)
say we are 11-2 7-11 1-1 19-14
breaking down 7-11
6 or 7 of them are probably in this bucket
WIS, OSU, IOWA, NEB, @ILL, IND, @NEB, NW, ILL
I'd be elated to be 6-3 with those 9, but it won't get us in to NIT (essentially the wrong side of NCAA bubble)
I might bet 1000-1, but only if we win Saturday. Again, with the horrible ooc, this team HAS to win minimum 10 B1G games to even be considered on the bubble. I cannot envision a scenario where this team wins 10 Conference games this year, let alone 12 or 13.
Some of you guys are out of your minds.
Lol, no good wins either. Have to beat Seton Hall to even have this conversation. Lose that game, and there's no chance of NCAA or NIT, unless the world moves and we win 12+ conference games.
I'm not sure you know how this works.
The demise of the B1G is a tad exaggerated. Unfortunately we are running out of chances vs. P6 foes
OSU-UNC neut
SHU@RU
PUR-BUT neut
NW@Dep
NW@OK
IND-ND neut
KAN@NEB
ILL-MISsouri neut
OSU-UNC neut
SHU@RU
PUR-BUT neut
NW@Dep
NW@OK
IND-ND neut
KAN@NEB
ILL-MISsouri neut
Conferences and kenpom Top 50 teams
#1 Big 12 has 8 out 10 80%
#2 ACC has 9 out of 15 60%
#3 Big East has 6 out of 10 60%
#4 SEC has 7 out of 14 50%
#5 B1G has 8 out of 14 57%
#6 Pac 12 has 4 out of 12 33%
total 42 out of 75 56%
#7 AAC has 4 out of 12
#8 MWC has 1
#10 A10 has 1
#11 WCC has the last 2
#1 Big 12 has 8 out 10 80%
#2 ACC has 9 out of 15 60%
#3 Big East has 6 out of 10 60%
#4 SEC has 7 out of 14 50%
#5 B1G has 8 out of 14 57%
#6 Pac 12 has 4 out of 12 33%
total 42 out of 75 56%
#7 AAC has 4 out of 12
#8 MWC has 1
#10 A10 has 1
#11 WCC has the last 2
Look, it's always fun to imagine the best-case scenario, but come on. What is our best win right now? And what teams in the Big Ten are worse than that? So how many Ws is that?
Our resume is non-existent. Can't we just (I hate to say this) enjoy the process? I for one intend to be happy with a winning record this season, and I have no intention of trying to put any pressure on Pike or anybody else by expecting more when it's just not realistic -- yet.
Our resume is non-existent. Can't we just (I hate to say this) enjoy the process? I for one intend to be happy with a winning record this season, and I have no intention of trying to put any pressure on Pike or anybody else by expecting more when it's just not realistic -- yet.
Jelly and Greene
Tomorrow is a must win to keep this scenario alive
As would be Wisconsin
Starts by defending home turf .
Need to take learn from close losses against Michigan State and Florida state and show we are building on them
Tomorrow is a must win to keep this scenario alive
As would be Wisconsin
Starts by defending home turf .
Need to take learn from close losses against Michigan State and Florida state and show we are building on them
I'm sure you guys are more up to date with the NIT than I am, but 19-14 not getting in? Wow.
I'm on board with Shack! Tomorrow, get Delgado in foul trouble; Issa shuts down Rodriguez (holds him to 20, lol), and get Corey and Mike to cover Powell like he took their money, and we have a chance, maybe. In addition to 20 wins, and a win tomorrow, we'd have to get in to the finals of the B10 in order to have a shot at even the NIT, imo. But, you gotta believe!
I still recall the first Bannon team to play the Hall. 81-49. Let's hope that same old Ratgers (sic) shows up tomorrow.
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