What really happen on the infamous week of the USF game
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How many new threads are going to be started? This was covered in one of the many other threads. Seems everyone wants to get their own point/points in with their own brand new thread. We are now at the lather, rinse, repeat stage of threads.
We had maybe 3-4 threads on the spectacular hire of Jerry Kill, which now falls off the first page.
Understood that this is stuff that is exciting and "fun" to discuss, but do we need so many separate threads?
We had maybe 3-4 threads on the spectacular hire of Jerry Kill, which now falls off the first page.
Understood that this is stuff that is exciting and "fun" to discuss, but do we need so many separate threads?
I haven't seen this brought up in any other thread. Also I thought that the topic deserved to be discuss since there was still a lot of confusion about the time when Herman wanted to fire Flood before we entered the Big Ten.
If you don't care, that is fine, but other people here besides yourself might want to read this.
You just gave us a link to Sargeant's twitter page. Is there a particular tweet we're supposed to be looking at?
For those of you who are not familiar with twitter, when you click on a tweet, it leads to a whole thread.
If you really need me to spell it out then I will, once i get some free time.
If you really need me to spell it out then I will, once i get some free time.
For next year, we have to replace the Scarlet Walk statue with a statue of Flood holding a big wad of cash.
Nah. Why don't we replace it with this statue (replace Brennan with KF):
Fair enough- but don't really see the dots connected with your link anyway. Just hoping we don't dwell on this with 20 threads per day. We have a lot of good things happening right now. Unfortunately RU tends to overshadow great news (like the hire of Jerry Kill) with a tsunami of bad news. It's what we do, unfortunately. Not trying to sweep this under the carpet, but this is really old news and we dealt with it. Kind of lost in the sensationalist headlines--we self-reported and brought this on ourselves, as opposed to the deniers at PSU, UNC, Louisville, Baylor and elsewhere. Nice Universities finish last.
For those having a hard time using or understanding twitter, here are some highlights:
The events related to USF '13 are pretty well known. There was a major behind-the-scenes fundraising effort being conducted which, in the end, fell considerably short of where we needed to be.
Julie wanted Petrino. A bunch of boosters wanted Mullen. We couldn't afford either.
Julie wanted Petrino. A bunch of boosters wanted Mullen. We couldn't afford either.
Looks like Flood wanted to be completely different than Schiano. I had thought it was limited to handling the QB position and easier spring and preseason practices... he kept FAMILY and CHOP and conservative offense.... but it looks like he didn't care about grades or drugs or discipline...
I don't know about the "ambassador" program.. I wonder what the scope of those violations were.. was it just millennials being millennials with the texts and snapchats and so on.. or was it much much worse?
I don't know about the "ambassador" program.. I wonder what the scope of those violations were.. was it just millennials being millennials with the texts and snapchats and so on.. or was it much much worse?
I have a client of very Advanced age. She kept telling me that she wants to get a computer so that she could connect to the internet and so she could learn how to use the Twatter. Kept calling it the Twatter. It took every ounce of my strength to keep from laughing out loud.
Here's the thing.. if Julie thought there was cause.. because of all these issues.. then fundraising should not have been a factor. Barchi was way off base insisting on fundraising. You have to solve the problem and stop the aberrant behaviors and worry about what you can afford in a new coach later.
If she wanted to fire him without cause.. then she didn't know what was going on and was just another AD who wanted to put someone in place that owed his job to her... and probably overpay him too when it comes to someone she knows.
Of all people to question if there should be another thread!! this coming from the person who starts at least one new thread every single day!! You have a lot of nerve questioning someone else!!
That's precisely where barchi bears some culpability in all this. Until last year he has been negligent towards athletics.
Not that bad. the NCAA rules state that they can only show them around campus, show them to their seats, normal stuff. However they are not allowed to contact them off campus.
The violations were that 2 of them kept in touch with some recruits afterwards and went out on dates with them. They were both fired once Rutgers found out.
Athletic Department employees were forwarding internal emails directly to members of the media? I sure hope Rutgers has beefed up it's I.T. security measures.
Not everybody checks the boards as often as you do. Some people may only come here a few times a week. They might not realize that a topic has been discussed already in another thread.
yeah to me thats highly disappointed and Mr Newman should out these people because we do not want those kind of people in the department who are just haphazardly sharing information. The leaks in the department were unreal and Baum was one of them and media cried for him boo hoo
Flood pretty much mimicked everything single thing Greg did and had built, right down to the Chop and Family mantras. The only real issue is that we wasn't real good at any of it and the longer things went on, the more the program decayed under him. He was lazy, had no original thoughts or ideas, and delegated too many of his responsibilities to others and simply hoped for the best. What other coach have you ever heard of that chooses to attend a Counting Crows concert the night before a season opener while his staff is busy working into the night preparing for the game. The fact that he then started tweeting about it shows you just how truly clueless he was as well. Good riddance.
In fairness to Julie, there was a "bunker" because the press circled around her like sharks. She was treated as an adversary by the press from literally Day 1 of her tenure. What benefit to her was it to be open to their queries?
They did that because she kept lying her arse off. Remember the there is no tape line? Then she was openly hostile towards them.
You know what they say about being nice to your waiter.
I would love to know from a real insider that was there day to day of how much Flood may have changed from day of promotion(where everyone who knew him knew him as a leader, educator, somewhat humble man, to 2012 when he shared the BE(did his ego jump off the charts at this point?) and then from the high of 2012 and getting verbals from most of the top NJ recruits to the losing season, JH trying to fire him and losing all the recruits he did. (Did this start to overwhelm him?) and then through his demise where it looks like he started doing things so out of character of where he started pre- HC...
It seems like a very complex transformation in the wrong direction that may have been pushed by many factors.
It seems like a very complex transformation in the wrong direction that may have been pushed by many factors.
As for Julie and hearing what sounds semi factual that she was very interested in bringing Petrino here, all of the violations seem so L'Ville and Petrino like, that it is hard to believe she was not more complacent in this then what is being addressed. I don't believe in coincidence.
Interesting thread. Can you imagine if she had hired Petrino? At least the way it is, these scandals (when the stories arise) are basically reheated old news. Petrino is a good coach, but trouble seems to follow that guy - and Julie was all in to bring him to Rutgers. He's have probably forced the university to fire him, and he'd be owed a lot more money than Flood was.
She really was a disastrous hire (full disclosure, I thought she seemed solid when she was hired) who didn't take long to be revealed as an ethics-challenged nitwit.
Mullen would have been a very good hire, albeit an expensive one.
But in fairness she is partly to blame for that by her own actions. Calling for the major media outlet covering the program to go out of business is not going to win you many friends, even if the remark was justified.
As I understand one of the ADs primary job functions is to raise money and JH was terrible at it.
I think we have an idea of who in the department might have been forwarding emails to the press.
I think we have an idea of who in the department might have been forwarding emails to the press.
I mentioned here, many months before Hermann was fired, that many in the Ath Department had been assembling files on all of her issues/failings--she was not respected and was considered a poor administrator--it all caught up to her
You mean the guy who was fired and the media lost their collective minds when they heard the news?
That guy?
I don't know for sure, so I won't go there, but ...that would explain it.
Poor Baum...lmao..the media circle jerk was distraught..such snowflakes and hypocrites
Maybe glance at the topics first? Everyone might not come here often but I think everyone can read, no?
I kid.
Baloney.
I already cited how he handled QBs and had easier practices.. while Schiano was a micro-manager and stayed on top of everything.. Flood went the other way.. he chose to keep things more loose. Think of the ice cream truck and club ice at preseason practices. Special teams is another area where he differed.. Schiano had starters on specials, Flood did not.
Flood's conservative offense mindset was not an attempt to copy Schiano.. it was born of his own preferences.
Flood was handed the keys of a tight ship and proceeded to ignore the responsibilities that would have kept that ship righted and afloat. And while I have been a supporter of Pernetti... if he was on top of this and on top of the Mike Rice situation.. which contributed to this in that the AD had big issues to handle.. then this might have been avoided.
I don't follow this as closely as most but let me ask where in the timeline did the bullying incident occur. It seems that the decommits started right after that. Is there any plausibility to the theory that Flood started to cut corners right after that in order to get replacement recruits.....some who normally would not have been considered because of character issues?
