What really happen on the infamous week of the USF game

[Ridge 22]

Baloney.

I already cited how he handled QBs and had easier practices.. while Schiano was a micro-manager and stayed on top of everything.. Flood went the other way.. he chose to keep things more loose. Think of the ice cream truck and club ice at preseason practices. Special teams is another area where he differed.. Schiano had starters on specials, Flood did not.

Flood's conservative offense mindset was not an attempt to copy Schiano.. it was born of his own preferences.

Flood was handed the keys of a tight ship and proceeded to ignore the responsibilities that would have kept that ship righted and afloat. And while I have been a supporter of Pernetti... if he was on top of this and on top of the Mike Rice situation.. which contributed to this in that the AD had big issues to handle.. then this might have been avoided.

Agree they had different approaches (micro-manager vs. loose delegator). That wasn't really what I was talking about though. My point was more about the fact that Flood did very little different than Greg did, whereas Ash has come in and flipped the program on its head.

 

[RUBand]

For next year, we have to replace the Scarlet Walk statue with a statue of Flood holding a big wad of cash.

Why would he be holding a wad of cash (we're not in the SEC). Perhaps a dance appreciation class textbook, or a Kyle Flood bobble head.

 

[Plum Street]

I have a newfound respect for Julie if she really tried to get petrino in here in 2013. If she was allowed to make that hire there would be no message board bickering today. Many of us would be looking forward to our trip to the rose bowl or another bowl game on January 2.
It's so unreal how barchi and the BOG just didn't get it.

 

[Leonard23]

The leaks in the department were unreal and Baum was one of them and media cried for him boo hoo

You mean the guy who was fired and the media lost their collective minds when they heard the news?

That guy?

I don't know for sure, so I won't go there, but ...that would explain it.

Poor Baum...lmao..the media circle jerk was distraught..such snowflakes and hypocrites

Anyone have any proof that it was Baum, as even @bobby deren doubted that rumor, & Kirschner was found to be the mole?

 

[RutgersUnion]

I have a newfound respect for Julie if she really tried to get petrino in here in 2013. If she was allowed to make that hire there would be no message board bickering today. Many of us would be looking forward to our trip to the rose bowl or another bowl game on January 2.
It's so unreal how barchi and the BOG just didn't get it.

You really believe JH wasn't a problem?

 

[Plum Street]

You really believe JH wasn't a problem?

Problem was barchi. If she was permitted to hire a winner like petrino and likewise in hoops she would be golden right now . She didn't make any major hires here and that's what an AD is judged on.

 

[bac2therac]

Anyone have any proof that it was Baum, as even @bobby deren doubted that rumor, & Kirschner was found to be the mole?

yes one of the moles, there were several. Its totally inappropiate for multiple AD employees to be sending other peoples emails through the department. What a train wreck. Two many sides, stupid ass Pernetti loyalists who were against Julie from the start. Listen she failed and she was fired, she needed to because division was so strong nothing could move forward. So may fiefdoms at RU and hopefully all of these losers in the athletic department have been wiped clean and yes that includes Baum

 

[Leonard23]

yes one of the moles, there were several. Its totally inappropiate for multiple AD employees to be sending other peoples emails through the department. What a train wreck. Two many sides, stupid ass Pernetti loyalists who were against Julie from the start. Listen she failed and she was fired, she needed to because division was so strong nothing could move forward. So may fiefdoms at RU and hopefully all of these losers in the athletic department have been wiped clean and yes that includes Baum

Of course everything was a trainwreck & divisive. Blame the BOGs & administration for never having a handle on how to run a big time athletics dept. I ask again, does anyone have proof of Baum leaking info like what's mentioned?

 

[bac2therac]

Of course everything was a trainwreck & divisive. Blame the BOGs & administration for never having a handle on how to run a big time athletics dept. I ask again, does anyone have proof of Baum leaking info like what's mentioned?

he wasnt fired either..he resigned...why? because Julie gave him that chance rather than fire him and bring out all the mud. He was able to leave and then look for another job. He was not on board with Julie and her way of doing things. The media screamed bloody murder as if it wasnt her right to hire or fire people in her department. They did a hack job on her because she got rid of him...shaking my head....why? People get let go all the time. The media's defense of him was simply over the top and they just piled on with their hatred of her

 

[AreYouNUTS]

You guys realize this IS NOT exactly new "news," right? That this is EXACTLY what has been told here, by many, for 3 years now, right?

Okay got that settled. Move on.

 

[jerzey devil]

Why would he be holding a wad of cash (we're not in the SEC). Perhaps a dance appreciation class textbook, or a Kyle Flood bobble head.

wearing a Princeton sweater

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

You guys realize this IS NOT exactly new "news," right? That this is EXACTLY what has been told here, by many, for 3 years now, right?

Okay got that settled. Move on.

I don't remember anyone mentioning bobby petrino as her main pick, at least not on the free board. Most of the talk was on Dan Mullen (donor's top choice). Besides dumbst. no one else mention his name, as far as I remember.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

I don't remember anyone mentioning bobby petrino as her main pick, at least not on the free board. Most of the talk was on Dan Mullen (donor's top choice). Besides dumbst. no one else mention his name, as far as I remember.

Scourge - sorry, didn't mean THAT part of it, just "how" it went down.

 

[AntiG]

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Well shit, we could have been amazing already by this point. It confirms the rumor that was floating around back then that she wanted Petrino.

 

[rurichdog]

I have a newfound respect for Julie if she really tried to get petrino in here in 2013. If she was allowed to make that hire there would be no message board bickering today. Many of us would be looking forward to our trip to the rose bowl or another bowl game on January 2.
It's so unreal how barchi and the BOG just didn't get it.

If Julie had hired Petrino, we'd be facing vacating a lot more wins, losing a lot more scholarships, and worried about our future bowl bans. The violations would still have occurred. I guess that would have been better?

 

[cicero grimes]

If Julie had hired Petrino, we'd be facing vacating a lot more wins, losing a lot more scholarships, and worried about our future bowl bans. The violations would still have occurred. I guess that would have been better?

I completely agree he would have cheated. But Petrino would have cheated and won. With Flood we got the cheating but not the winning; a really bad outcome.

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

Scourge - sorry, didn't mean THAT part of it, just "how" it went down.

Yeah, I knew the rest, but not everyone was here 3 years ago.

But wanting to hire him fresh from his motorcycle crash while we were fresh from the Mike Rice tapes just goes to show you just how clueless she was.

So wonder no one wanted to give her money. She had no idea what the hell she was doing.

 

[RU4Real]

There was no way Petrino was a viable candidate in December of 2013. He was Untouchable at the time. Hiring him would have turned NJ.com into RutgersSucks.com in about an hour.

 

[zappaa]

I know anyone who even hinted at hoping Rutgers would lose to USF in an effort to get rid of that bum was outcast and vilified.

 

[yesrutgers01]

Guys like Petrino, Kiffin etc are more than likely never going to coach here and win or not- what a nightmare it would have been

 

[Scarlet_Scourge]

I know anyone who even hinted at hoping Rutgers would lose to USF in an effort to get rid of that bum was outcast and vilified.

Never root against your own team, that is sports 101. You don't want to be like Jets fans who hope that they lose out so they can get a better draft pick.

Beating the worse team in the Big East shouldn't have been enough to save anyone's job. Not having the money to fire him is the only thing that saved him.

 

[zappaa]

Never root against your own team, that is sports 101. You don't want to be like Jets fans who hope that they lose out so they can get a better draft pick.

Beating the worse team in the Big East shouldn't have been enough to save anyone's job. Not having the money to fire him is the only thing that saved him.

I have it from some pretty influential people he was gone had we lost.

 

[rufanpops]

I have a client of very Advanced age. She kept telling me that she wants to get a computer so that she could connect to the internet and so she could learn how to use the Twatter. Kept calling it the Twatter. It took every ounce of my strength to keep from laughing out loud.

I post twats 24/7.

 

[yesrutgers01]

Never root against your own team, that is sports 101. You don't want to be like Jets fans who hope that they lose out so they can get a better draft pick.

Beating the worse team in the Big East shouldn't have been enough to save anyone's job. Not having the money to fire him is the only thing that saved him.

Anyone that wants their team to lose for any reason, is wrong. I cheer for the kids on the team and they deserve my support

 

[zappaa]

Anyone that wants their team to lose for any reason, is wrong. I cheer for the kids on the team and they deserve my support

I agree 100% and there's no doubt in my mind you'd root for RU if this situation ever arose again.
Retrospect and what Flood did to this program is still interesting to look at, unfortunately we don't have crystal balls, but some people knew what was going on.

 

[NotInRHouse]

I have it from some pretty influential people he was gone had we lost.

It is interesting though, one game is the difference between hiring and firing?

I don't know whether it was JH who didn't have the right info on Flood, or she did have and didn't use it, or the donors didn't back it up, but, that decision really really screwed us (aside from the one to hire Flood in the first place)

 

[AreYouNUTS]

It is interesting though, one game is the difference between hiring and firing?

I don't know whether it was JH who didn't have the right info on Flood, or she did have and didn't use it, or the donors didn't back it up, but, that decision really really screwed us (aside from the one to hire Flood in the first place)

IIRC - from what I heard in multiple places - there was one big $$$ donor who was a big Flood fan and refused to believe he was involved in any misdoings, at the time, or that the program was headed in the wrong direction. Anyway his "voice" was enough to influence a few others not to throw their money into the pot.

 

[Blitz8RUCrazy]

I know anyone who even hinted at hoping Rutgers would lose to USF in an effort to get rid of that bum was outcast and vilified.

Yup, I was one of those castigated on this board for rooting for USF to win that game. If it weren't for Dodd's moxy and Sanu's clutch catching, we would have... What could have been... with 2 less Floodless years...

 

[RobertG]

Much of this information was floating around at the time. Everybody knew that Julie wanted Flood fired. And as soon as that was out there Flood was a lame duck. Julie screwed up two ways. 1) She was unable to raise the money to hire him and 2) She made it well known that she wanted Flood gone. And recruiting suffered (even more) because of this. Who want's to play for a coach who you know will be gone in a year or two?

 

[NotInRHouse]

IIRC - from what I heard in multiple places - there was one big $$$ donor who was a big Flood fan and refused to believe he was involved in any misdoings, at the time, or that the program was headed in the wrong direction. Anyway his "voice" was enough to influence a few others not to throw their money into the pot.

Yes. I recall that from the time, and who it was. Thanks for the reminder.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

Much of this information was floating around at the time. Everybody knew that Julie wanted Flood fired. And as soon as that was out there Flood was a lame duck. Julie screwed up two ways. 1) She was unable to raise the money to hire him and 2) She made it well known that she wanted Flood gone. And recruiting suffered (even more) because of this. Who want's to play for a coach who you know will be gone in a year or two?

The vast majority of the de-commits that year had either a) already occurred or b) were going to occur anyway.

 

[cicero grimes]

Our 2013 is similar to what is happening at UCONN now with Diaco. The fans despise him as much as we despise you know who but they do not have the cash to fire him. Thank god we got the B1G $$$ or Flood might still be our coach.

 

[NorthNJRUFan]

Some of you should look in the mirror

Many of you loved baum and were pissed when he was let go

And many of you loved EJ

thats embarrassing.

 

[cicero grimes]

I wonder what Ray Lucas thinks of this now. I remember driving home from the game and listing to him on the air going to bat for Flood keeping his job. Kyle fooled a lot of people.

 

[FanuSanu52]

I have a client of very Advanced age. She kept telling me that she wants to get a computer so that she could connect to the internet and so she could learn how to use the Twatter. Kept calling it the Twatter. It took every ounce of my strength to keep from laughing out loud.

Maybe that's what she really meant. The Internet is very helpful in teaching you all about using the twatter.

 

[PatrickRU92]

Yup, I was one of those castigated on this board for rooting for USF to win that game. If it weren't for Dodd's moxy and Sanu's clutch catching, we would have... What could have been... with 2 less Floodless years...

think you are thinking of the wrong USF game. the USF game that supposedly saved Flood's job wasn't close. The one you are referring to was 2 years earlier and was an amazing come back win

 

[RU4Real]

It is interesting though, one game is the difference between hiring and firing?

I don't know whether it was JH who didn't have the right info on Flood, or she did have and didn't use it, or the donors didn't back it up, but, that decision really really screwed us (aside from the one to hire Flood in the first place)

I hate to disagree with Zap, but I'm gonna do it anyway.

Win, lose or draw, we fell short of the money to get rid of Flood. Winning the game had nothing to do with keeping him - had Julie been able to put the money together, he was gone regardless.

That was a total shit show of a week.

 

[cicero grimes]

I hate to disagree with Zap, but I'm gonna do it anyway.

Win, lose or draw, we fell short of the money to get rid of Flood. Winning the game had nothing to do with keeping him - had Julie been able to put the money together, he was gone regardless.

That was a total shit show of a week.

I hope with the B1G $$$ money is never an issue again in deciding to let a coach go. It should be determined by what is in the best interest of the program.

 

[bac2therac]

I don't remember anyone mentioning bobby petrino as her main pick, at least not on the free board. Most of the talk was on Dan Mullen (donor's top choice). Besides dumbst. no one else mention his name, as far as I remember.

it may or may not be truth if you listen to a reputable guy on the round table...just because Sargeant said it doesnt mean it was true or intended for his ears

 

[RUScrew85]

I have a client of very Advanced age. She kept telling me that she wants to get a computer so that she could connect to the internet and so she could learn how to use the Twatter. Kept calling it the Twatter. It took every ounce of my strength to keep from laughing out loud.

In her defense there are a lot of Twatters in the internet too.