What's the story on Guarantano?
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No inside info of course, but if I was laying money on a bet I would put it on Ohio State, unfortunately. Meyer is the recruit whisperer.
How do we know for sure that ND (or anyone else) actually offered?
A few days ago he posted on his Twitter that "Yale offered!".
Yale doesn't "offer". They can't. As an Ivy League school, they do not participate in the National Letter of Intent program, nor do they offer athletic scholarships. So, whatever communications he may have had with Yale, none of it constitutes an "offer".
A few days ago he posted on his Twitter that "Yale offered!".
Yale doesn't "offer". They can't. As an Ivy League school, they do not participate in the National Letter of Intent program, nor do they offer athletic scholarships. So, whatever communications he may have had with Yale, none of it constitutes an "offer".
I agree.
Supposedly he was a silent commit to OSU and was supposed to announce the day after signing day..but Meyer took 2 QBs in this year's class when he promised JG they'd only take one.
This irked JG..hence the predictions he'd come to RU. The fact he never committed here..and he's reportedly scheduling more visits to OSU..leads me to believe Meyer talked him into reconsidering.
Don't like our chances..but who knows. No inside info either..just going by what I've read.
Why would it be hard to imagine a kid that supposedly had a 3.96 GPA less than a year ago being a candidate to get OFFERED an academic scholarship?
This post was edited on 2/26 4:59 PM by BLewis1968
This post was edited on 2/26 4:59 PM by BLewis1968
you don't get academic scholarships unless you apply first. Do you think that he's gone through the full application process as a high school junior?
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Correct me if I'm wrong, 25, but can't you get Merit Scholarship money before applying? I mean, I'm getting old and my memory is going, but I swear I thought I remember those being done before my application process was finished. They were based off the SATs, which were spring of my junior year. Granted, a couple months later than he is in now, maybe April or somesuch. But as I said, that was almost 30 years ago, so if I'm mistaken, I'll certainly admit it.
This post was edited on 2/26 5:08 PM by BLewis1968
This post was edited on 2/26 5:08 PM by BLewis1968
As others have pointed out, you can't get any kind of merit award unless you've actually applied and been accepted. Since the application process for the rising collegiate class of 2020 is not open yet, this could not have occurred.
I've been through this process (non-D1 athletics recruiting) with one of my own kids. At this point in their career, the ONLY thing a school can do is to have the coach imply that if you apply to the school as part of the early decision process you would be given special consideration.
And a 3.96 high school GPA isn't going to stand out at Yale.
I've been through this process (non-D1 athletics recruiting) with one of my own kids. At this point in their career, the ONLY thing a school can do is to have the coach imply that if you apply to the school as part of the early decision process you would be given special consideration.
And a 3.96 high school GPA isn't going to stand out at Yale.
Got it. I'm almost 30 years past mine, and almost 10 years away from my daughter's, God willing, so my memory is a little shady.
What I do recall is that kid's definition of what was offered and the reality of what is exactly "commitable(?)" don't always match up perfectly. I certainly recall coaches telling me in my junior year we'll give you this, and we'll give you that. But you're right, if push had come to shove, they certainly might not have come through with what they'd promised. Or alluded to.
This post was edited on 2/26 5:25 PM by BLewis1968
This post was edited on 2/26 5:36 PM by BLewis1968
What I do recall is that kid's definition of what was offered and the reality of what is exactly "commitable(?)" don't always match up perfectly. I certainly recall coaches telling me in my junior year we'll give you this, and we'll give you that. But you're right, if push had come to shove, they certainly might not have come through with what they'd promised. Or alluded to.
This post was edited on 2/26 5:25 PM by BLewis1968
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If it is anything like Princeton used to do with their lacrosse team, there is an expectation of entrance and financial aid that has been expressed.
It is if you are a nationally ranked qb. Ivy league schools "offer" top kids every single year, there are clear workarounds. There was a nationally ranked TE named Blake Barker a couple years ago that committed to Harvard after he got his "offer". I remember Cam Dickerson a couple years ago also got offered by Ivies and went to Harvard's junior day.
This post was edited on 2/26 6:25 PM by SC1221
You don't think ivy schools have conversations with players before they apply? Of course they do. Do you think they wait until applications come in, people get accepted and then see it they can put together a team?
Of course they have "conversations". I clearly stated that, again, from my own personal experience with one of my own kids.
What I'm saying is that there is no such thing as an "offer". It doesn't make any difference what they say. The concept doesn't exist.
What I'm saying is that there is no such thing as an "offer". It doesn't make any difference what they say. The concept doesn't exist.
Gibson will end up switching positions by the 4th practice. Everything you read about him is he is gonna switch to receiver. That is why he wavered a little about going to OSU was because he knows he won't play QB. Almost all schools that offered him were offering for a different position.
Gibson threw for over 4,000 yards in 3 HS years and wants to play QB period. UM communicated he would play QB for the Buckeyes and that's how they landed him after late visits to Auburn and LSU (both recruiting classes took 1 QB each with 3 stars and less). If he wasn't in at QB for Ohio State, he would have committed elsewhere. Whether that happens remains to be seen, however, he fits the Ohio State QB profile. I don't believe he'll take lightly a switch to another position.
http://www.cleveland.com/osu/index.ssf/2014/11/five-star_qb_torrance_gibson_c_1.html
Perhaps they don't offer full scholarships like DIv1 sports teams. But I can tell you with 100% certainty thet they do offer financial aid that covers 100% tuition & other school costs to athletes. And its just not Yale. I also know that Princeton does this. I've seen letters and financial aid letters form those two schools.
Exactly. It's not a National Letter of Intent, but again, he never claimed it was one. He simply said they "offered," and Ivy League schools have, do and will continue to offer kids financial aid packages. A football player/decathlete I know went to Penn on just such a deal.
They know how much money they have every year to give in academic scholarships and then based on the kids financial background. We use to joke that they had the "(Insert your town name) memorial scholarship for (insert your acenstory) who major in (insert your preferred major) academic scholarship" that athletes seemed to always win.
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Let's be honest here...we know the perception of Rutgers among Bergen Catholic parents and students. For Bergen kids going to Rutgers just isn't the cool thing to do. This isn't just assuming the worst...this has been the case for decades. Ok his dad went here but i'm sure his parents are just like any other keeping up with the Jones' type family. Not saying there can't be exceptions, but where he goes to high school and the fact that he keeps delaying his decision makes it appear as though he's looking for any way out of NJ. Of course I could be wrong and would be happy if I'm wrong but I think if he commits to us it's by default.
the kid needs to wait to see who is where on the depth chart by the end of next season. He may soft verbal but I doubt he will commit unless he really wants an Ohio St or ND and they say hard commit or the schollie goes elsewhere.
At Rutgers he knows the depth chart. At Ohio St and Notre Dame he needs to see who else joins the team and which upperclassmen go to the NFL or transfer.
Ohio St
JT Barrett - Fr (Jr in JG's freshman season)
Cardale Jones - So (Sr in JG's freshman season)
class of 2015 had 1 3 star and 1 4 star QB recruit
Notre Dame
Class of 2012 had a 4 start QB recruit (Gunner Kiel)
Class of 2013 had a 4 star QB recruit from Ohio
Class of 2014 had a 4 star QB recruit from Ohio
class of 2015 had a 4 star QB recruit (Wimbush from St Peter's Prep in NJ)
At Rutgers he knows the depth chart. At Ohio St and Notre Dame he needs to see who else joins the team and which upperclassmen go to the NFL or transfer.
Ohio St
JT Barrett - Fr (Jr in JG's freshman season)
Cardale Jones - So (Sr in JG's freshman season)
class of 2015 had 1 3 star and 1 4 star QB recruit
Notre Dame
Class of 2012 had a 4 start QB recruit (Gunner Kiel)
Class of 2013 had a 4 star QB recruit from Ohio
Class of 2014 had a 4 star QB recruit from Ohio
class of 2015 had a 4 star QB recruit (Wimbush from St Peter's Prep in NJ)
Have a feeling this one is going to NSD 2016. Going to be a tough choice for the kid between Rutgers and OSU. Not sure who else the Buckeyes are looking at (maybe Haskins and a couple of others) but JG is their #1 choice. Is Rutgers recruiting any other known QBs hard besides Guarantano ? I think one of the main advantages that you have going for you is our depth chart, of course, and a very highly rated 2017 QB already committed (since his freshman year in high school) who many consider a can't miss prospect. Hard to tell about those can't miss propects however.
Meyer never promised Guarantano that he would only take one QB. Burrow committed to OSU in May of 2014 and Meyer never gave any indication that he would stop recruiting Gibson.
Guarantano was a heavy OSU lean early but I do believe the depth of QBs is a factor in him considering other programs. Not because of Miller or Jones as they will both be gone after this year. But Barrett's three remaining years, Collier a freshman who red shirted this past season, Burrow and Gibson coming on board next year, and Clark, a top QB nationally in the 2017 class has already given a verbal commitment to the Bucks.
Right now I would say Rutgers has the upper hand, but Notre Dame could be a factor.
Guarantano was a heavy OSU lean early but I do believe the depth of QBs is a factor in him considering other programs. Not because of Miller or Jones as they will both be gone after this year. But Barrett's three remaining years, Collier a freshman who red shirted this past season, Burrow and Gibson coming on board next year, and Clark, a top QB nationally in the 2017 class has already given a verbal commitment to the Bucks.
Right now I would say Rutgers has the upper hand, but Notre Dame could be a factor.
I have heard two different accounts and have no idea if either is accurate so TIFWIW.
One says that JG wanted to commit to OSU but Urbs told him to hold off. Apparently the are waiting on Haskins. Parents and JG were put off a bit but didn't know how much.
The other account said that was completely untrue and OSU would accept his commitment in a heartbeat.
I agree about Gibson switching to WR. Stranger things have happened though.
Your depth chart is certainly more favorable than OSUs and NDs but so was ours when Wimbush bolted for ND. OSU seems like the better opportunity than ND but they already have Danny Clark on board for 2017 and he has the chance to be a 5*.
One says that JG wanted to commit to OSU but Urbs told him to hold off. Apparently the are waiting on Haskins. Parents and JG were put off a bit but didn't know how much.
The other account said that was completely untrue and OSU would accept his commitment in a heartbeat.
I agree about Gibson switching to WR. Stranger things have happened though.
Your depth chart is certainly more favorable than OSUs and NDs but so was ours when Wimbush bolted for ND. OSU seems like the better opportunity than ND but they already have Danny Clark on board for 2017 and he has the chance to be a 5*.
