Who we should be recruiting?
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Now I understand players are sometimes better than their offer list and rankings but Eddie is not currently recruiting. "B1G BOYS"
Eddie threw the current stable of players under the bus on Wiscy by saying they were not as good as their secondary players.
I happen to think our players are better than some we have offered in 2016. Jax Levitch could have picked us over Delaware by now and I don't think he's a player Eddie would call better than Wisconsin's secondary players.
So what is he doing exactly? Recruiting the same talent he then begrudges after 20-point losses.
I love under the radar players but Jordan needs to win with Corey Sanders types. It's quite obvious
If we had just given Craig Littlepage another year, we would have gone to the final four.
And I also know Tom Izzo is shaking in his boots.
I actually disagree with you. Give me 10 Mike Williams types. 3 will amount to nothing, 3 will be bottom of the rotation types, 3 will be what our Williams is, 1 will outperform expectations and be 2nd-3rd team B1G players.
8 of 10 will graduate and play all 4 years. 8 or more will defend every possession.
Corey defends enough for me and is an outstanding talent. The jury is still out in terms of the long term impact he will have on the Rutgers Basketball program.
Right now it isn't about getting to the top 1/2 of B1G standings.....it is about cracking the top 100 and being in 80% of B1G games and being able to comfortably go 7-4 with the weak OOC schedule we had.
You replied to my post twice. I advise you to relax, trust in the program & BE PATIENT!
I've been trusting and patient since 1991. Going back even before then, every coach after Young has failed. For the most part, successful coaches either continue with their school, move on to a bigger/better jobs, or retire with their school. Littlepage, Wenzel, Bannon, Waters, Hill, and Rice have all been fired here and none have gone on to a higher profile position. We;ve seen this 6 times before, only this is worse.
We lose 3 seniors next year, have only 2 B!G players, and have 0 recruits coming in. Even if we assume no one transfers out, how in the world does anyone think Jordan has this program heading in any direction but down right now?
Eddie should not be held responsible for prior coaches mistakes. You need to look at it like you're being patient since 2013.
Eddie is affected by the decimated roster left to him by prior mistakes. Working through that recent negative history takes time. He is dealing with that, while also building the program through patient recruiting of high character individuals.
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Eddie will most likely win at most 4 conference games but I see less than 10 overall wins.
Every Big Ten team gets better every cycle. We're not getting better fast enough to get out of the basement. We lost to a bad St Johns team. Eddies lost to every low major team imaginable. St Peters, St Francis, FDU. Blowouts against GW and Hall for consecutive seasons. 0-3 in three seasons
The great Wisconsin win was followed by 15 straight losses.
How did we start 2015-16? Tied at halftime with Rutgers-Newark and then a close game with a terrible Central Arkamsas team.
How can you see this trend and think we are on the right track?
Couple that with Jordan's no-show at Court Club and every program saying he never shows up at their gyms and its obvious he's much better stepping down and remaining the darling of yesteryear
Reminder: Eddie is not doing this for charity! He gets paid more than HC's who make the dance and or win 20 games once in a while.
Don't feel bad for Eddie.
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I understand what you are saying. Each coach needs to be given his chance. However, my point is that we've seen this show before. It doesn't take that long to see that it's not working - very weak recruiting, very weak player progress, very questionable coaching, team's that tank as other teams improve, and some bizarre statements regarding rebounding drills and questioning the talent level that he recruited. There needs to be progress and there is none. Therefore, it's more of the same. Taking time is one thing but lack of progress is clearly another.
I am sure in his contract it stipulates that he gets to select his staff unless you are talking about the extension and then that only apply for those years the extension is in place. Fire him and get a proven coach who could win sooner.
Hobbs extended Willard at SHU before he left..with no NCAA appearances and yes in year 6 he has them competing for a spot this year but they have been a couple times before and tanked their season.
well if you think RU has really changed you are correct...if not evidence shows with Hill they not only brought him as an assistant to be coach in waiting but also extended him after 3 terrible seasons...of course the Hill regime and its money restraints are what caused the whole Rice debacle in the first place as TP couldn't fire in March and start looking for coaching candidates right away..we very well could have had Fran McCaffery here and avoided years of embarrassment and TP still would have been here....thanks Uncle Bob..you got us in the Big 10 but at price....the defectation of the basketball program
ok the problem with not firing him this year and letting him coach a 4th year....WHO THE HELL IS GOING TO SIGN ON TO HIM KNOWING HE IS LIKELY GONE EITHER AFTER HIS 4TH YEAR OR 5TH YEAR...no one! Better to cut the cord now when he don't have any recruits as it is and bite the bullet immediately
You can't compare Willards first three years with Jordan's - Sarge speculated today that Jordan will be fired or extended (because you can't recruit otherwise). If that is the case, EJ is as good as gone. You cannot give Eddie 2 more years @ 1.5 million based upon his first three years. It won't happen.
just read that today...would seem to counter the arguments of give him another chance because of injuries..a decision needs to be made and its a no brainer, as I said in the other thread, no one will commit to a guy without an extension
but I wouldn't be so certain they don't extend him..this is Rutgers and if they don't feel they can make a hire because of the facilities issue Eddie gets saved
but I wouldn't be so certain they don't extend him..this is Rutgers and if they don't feel they can make a hire because of the facilities issue Eddie gets saved
Every Big 10 team is getting better every cycle....REALLY ? They would rule college basketball.....lol
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Not 3 million bucks. No way. Particularly with Hobbs there. He's too smart about basketball
Rutgers isn't the only team recruiting and developing players.
We add Nigel and lose Grier, Lewis and Bishop. Issa Thiam is solid but won't save Eddies job. Neither will Jax.
If you think Eddie can find FOUR legitimate additions in the spring, enough to win more than 12 games, I will gladly put my money where my mouth is.
As I'm typing this Rutgers has 15 points in 17 minutes against Maryland. With mostly players on the team next season
We add Nigel and lose Grier, Lewis and Bishop. Issa Thiam is solid but won't save Eddies job. Neither will Jax.
If you think Eddie can find FOUR legitimate additions in the spring, enough to win more than 12 games, I will gladly put my money where my mouth is.
As I'm typing this Rutgers has 15 points in 17 minutes against Maryland. With mostly players on the team next season
we have some naïve fans that just assume hey we sign 4 players we are moving up. Hey Laurent made a basket he is a Big 10 talent. Mike Willaims defends he is a Big 10 talent. We have watched so much bad basketball for so long that just an average play we start praising and overrating talent. People buying into talk that Nigel Johnson will be our savior along with Doorson. RU has two legit players that would see time on any of the top 8 in the league...the rest would see 5 minutes and some no time at all.
What mistakes? At least our prior coaches were competitive.
This is year 3..enough with the excuses. Other teams have turned it around MUCH quicker. Eddie ain't the solution, sorry.
Recruiting players who are projects only works in programs where there is player development. That requires real coaches. They aren't here.
Not all extensions are created equally. On more than a few occasions, schools announce an extension but there is not more guaranteed money. For example, RU can announce a 4 year extension for recruiting purposes but not change the buyout. This provides EJ air cover but doesn't increase RU's financial obligations. Hobbs is very smart and doubtless understands this well.
That's the only way an extension could happen, but it would be stupid. Eddie's extension will be publicly available, and an extension like that is almost an announcement that he's going to be fired. No one will miss it, including anyone recruiting against EJ.
If Hobbs gives Eddie an extension then HOBBS should be fired.
My best hope is that at some point before the end of this season, Hobbs has a conversation and convinces Eddie to announce he is stepping down at the end of the season so all of the bad vibes and speculation about Eddie's job are put to rest and we can begin to move forward. Perhaps this will kickstart the facility investment drive which any new coach worth anything will demand.
My best hope is that at some point before the end of this season, Hobbs has a conversation and convinces Eddie to announce he is stepping down at the end of the season so all of the bad vibes and speculation about Eddie's job are put to rest and we can begin to move forward. Perhaps this will kickstart the facility investment drive which any new coach worth anything will demand.
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That is no excuse not to return a phone call.
Look Tahj Holden went to Maryland, loves Maryland, he even reads message boards. The kids going to Maryland right now are 5 star and high 4 star guys. We are in NO danger if Rutgers pulling 4 star guys we won't take from NJ. Tahj is not going to screw Rutgers on Maryland's behalf.
If you literally loaded up on 4 star mid level talent in NY/NJ you could field a competitive team. You could easily sell them on immediate playing time and being on national TV and showcasing their skills against the nations best and that NBA scouts will be there. If they beat a guy they are looking at, they might get drafted. There is no excuse to be that bad.
It starts with following up, I sat behind the Rutgers bench as my seats at Maryland are 3 rows from the court, that team could be beaten by a good high school prep team.
Agree 100% with phone call has to be returned and agree 100% with this team (without 4 hurt bigs) being beat by some NJ HS teams.
Not so sure about the strategy of getting the 3 and 4 * NJ guys coming here...and it being easy. Yes you play on TV, in a great conference, with playing time. You are a 2nd class citizen, who won't play in the NCAA tournament, playing in front of 1,000 fans, and practicing when the baseball team or women's basketball isn't using your gym. the facilites are huge when comparing them to most "power" schools. This is why I take my sales pitch above....you play on TV, in a great conference, with playing time....to the athlete that is recruited to play for Dayton, George Washington, etc.
When you get the bottom of the 3-4 star barrel you get what RU has. When you fish from a different pond you get kids with less an ego, that play with more emotion, and are coachable. We aren't looking for Top 25 or even 8-10 in the B1G at this point. We just want to be competitive in most games.
Yea it doesn't help the RAC looks like it was designed by Stalin.
However, there are PLENTY
2016
4 star to Harvard
2015
4 star Marquette
Got to get those guys to stay home. Rutgers should be better than those two.
However, there are PLENTY
2016
4 star to Harvard
2015
4 star Marquette
Got to get those guys to stay home. Rutgers should be better than those two.
Maishe Dailey @_mdailey15 2 hours agoCan't wait to get up to Rutgers this weekend for my first official visit!
#B1G
Maishe Dailey @_mdailey15 2 hours agoCan't wait to get up to Rutgers this weekend for my first official visit!#B1G
Good find, I located his Hudl highlights, listed as 6'6", left handed, good moves to the basket, runs the floor well, very long arms and can hit the outside shot. Kind of reminds me of Dane Miller, but, a better shooter.
FIG......what do you think of his tape? ;I know it's only highlights, but, what are your thoughts?
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