Will they play Rettig?
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I will post this once again for like the 10th time:
Nova QBR through 8 games: 67.6, 87.0, 47.4, 93.4, 98.2. 88.5, 69.8, 45.8
Nova AVG QBR 74.7
Laviano QBR through 8 games: 100.0, 39.8, 54.4, 61.8, 80.4, 61.8, 43.2, 6.2
Laviano AVG QBR 55.9
Last year Nova did much of this without a running game during games 4-8. After PJ's unjury, we were using Peoples and Goodwin until Indiana when we woke up and used Hicks to great advantage.
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i'd rather my QB go 2-10 with 60 yards, than 9/10 with 20.
and 20 for Laviano is generous
I will post this once again for like the 10th time:
Nova QBR through 8 games: 67.6, 87.0, 47.4, 93.4, 98.2. 88.5, 69.8, 45.8
Nova AVG QBR 74.7
Laviano QBR through 8 games: 100.0, 39.8, 54.4, 61.8, 80.4, 61.8, 43.2, 6.2
Laviano AVG QBR 55.9
Last year Nova did much of this without a running game during games 4-8. After PJ's unjury, we were using Peoples and Goodwin until Indiana when we woke up and used Hicks to great advantage.
Graphs LMFAO. OK chief Nova had Carroo & Coleman to throw to most of his career. Your graph is flawedI will post this once again for like the 10th time:
Nova QBR through 8 games: 67.6, 87.0, 47.4, 93.4, 98.2. 88.5, 69.8, 45.8
Nova AVG QBR 74.7
Laviano QBR through 8 games: 100.0, 39.8, 54.4, 61.8, 80.4, 61.8, 43.2, 6.2
Laviano AVG QBR 55.9
Last year Nova did much of this without a running game during games 4-8. After PJ's unjury, we were using Peoples and Goodwin until Indiana when we woke up and used Hicks to great advantage.
99% of lavianos stats are from throwing to Carroo....take him away and laviano might as well take a knee every time on offense. We'd probably be better off that way.
It's a good thing Flood doesn't make decisions on running back and stick to it, come hell or high water. We'd still be looking at Peoples and Goodwin all game, with Hicks and Martin relegated to the bench.I will post this once again for like the 10th time:
Nova QBR through 8 games: 67.6, 87.0, 47.4, 93.4, 98.2. 88.5, 69.8, 45.8
Nova AVG QBR 74.7
Laviano QBR through 8 games: 100.0, 39.8, 54.4, 61.8, 80.4, 61.8, 43.2, 6.2
Laviano AVG QBR 55.9
Last year Nova did much of this without a running game during games 4-8. After PJ's unjury, we were using Peoples and Goodwin until Indiana when we woke up and used Hicks to great advantage.
You "coaches know best" guys crack me up. This is a coach who had Hicks playing DB in the third game last season! Lol.
Rushing yards last year after James got hurt:
Tulane 171
OSU 149
Neb 143
Mich 74
Wisc 76
Don't know where you got your numbers from but they are all wrong.
I use the graphs because it helps people who cannot read...
FYI, we are discussing last year Nova versus this year Laviano through 8 games. There was no Coleman last year through any games. Did you not comprehend our discussion?
From November 2014:
PISCATAWAY, N.J. -- Josh Hicks was a running back, then a safety, and now a running back again at Rutgers. It's been a whirlwind freshman season.
Yeah well he doesn't have Kroft, Tsmis, Burton ,Turzilli... or time to throw. Teams had to respect Turzilli and Kroft along with Carroo.
You do realize he was put there mainly for insurance purposes.this wasn't a position change designed to be long term..and never played a down at safety.
Please stop giving excuses. Do you notice how he can never connect with agudosi? Rettig doesnt have a problem throwing to someone not named carroo.
Further detail:
In the OSU game we ran 16 times for 113 yds after we were down 49-7. Prior to that we ran 22 times for 36 yards.
Nebraska game we ran 12-54 after we went down 35-10. Before that we were 26-89 and that included a Laviano run of 46 yards. Without that we had 25-43.
Michigan game we ran 30-74.
So when we were facing first team defenses and the game was not already decided we ran 78 times for 199 yards. Without that Laviano 46 yard scramble we were 77-153 when in a game not yet decided and facing first team D's.
Catches Rutgers vs Indiana
Carroo 7
Patton 6
Agudosi 3
Grant 4
Arch 3
Scarff 1
James 2
Goodwin 2
The best RB on the team spent three weeks at safety. Ask Flood if that was a mistake, if Hicks should have stayed at RB and played earlier, I'm sure he'd say yes. Sadly, he'll never have that chance to say that with Rettig, because he won't play him, like he did Hicks after the production from Peoples and Goodwin left questions about whether there were better options.
He has a zany/crazy philosophy regarding one position, the QB, where he leaves zero chance of discovering, like he did with Hicks, that he had it all wrong to begin with. And he's well on his way to having it cost him his job which is deserved for such a stubborn and cockamamie way of operating.
You are using net rushing yards that factors in sacks. In most cases that's a 30-35 yard differential. Not sure where those rushing yards were deducted from.
lol you pick the shoot out game. Look at PSU or every other game. His big plays and TD are to carroo only. He sucks and the fact you guys can't face that is astounding to me. You guys are like Baghdad bob
Net rushing yards also includes games like Nebraska where Laviano ran 5-54. Also, the yards gained is only composed of positive rushes. Any negative run is under the yards lost rushing. For example, against Tulane Nova was not sacked, so the real number is 171 and not 202. Yards lost rushing is both sacks and negative runs.
At least you should have removed the QB numbers from the results.
You would have this:
OSU 31-170 (but as I mentioned we were 16-113 after score was 49-7, we had 15-44 in 1st half)
Neb 31-95 (includes Martin 6-32 at end of game it was 25-63 before that)
Mich 25-72
We had no running game other than the Tulane game during the 4 games without PJ.
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Not sure I'm following. Does net rushing yards and yards lost rushing include sacks or not?
Huh? Hicks ran the ball down the entire length of the field vs. Wisconsin when this crazy staff handed it to him on like eight consecutive plays because they're just that amateurish.
Seriously, you've watched Hicks run and think he's the same as Peoples and Goodwin? I don't want to insult you but that's telling regarding your football IQ.
It includes sacks and also all negative rushing plays. Any run that is a TFL is under that total. If you look at the Tulane game last year Nova was not sacked and yet we had 31 yards lost rushing.
If a RB has 20-100 which is made up of 15 positive rushes for 109 yards and 5 negative rushes for -9, you would see yards gained rushing 109, yards lost rushing 9.
You used the wrong stat plain and simple. Either use net rushing and live with sacks and big qb runs or remove qb carries altogether from net yards rushing stat.
You realize having someone of Carroo's caliber on the field opens up all kinds of options, whether to Carroo or others? Laviano played 4 games with Carroo. For 3 of those games he threw 3 TDS to him. The remaining 4 games no Carroo...and the game changes just due to his absence
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I can't imagine QB rushing yards would be much outside of that run by your boy Laviano
I already provided the RB stats above. One of the things about blind stats is you do not understand what really happened. Against Nebraska last year our run game had 25-63 before Martin came in late in a 35-10 game. If you throw in Laviano's 5-54 and Martin's late 6-32 you end up with 36-149 and you would think we ran the ball very well. We did not run the ball well most games last year when it still mattered.
Of course it does...why can rettig make agudosi look explosive but CL can't? Answer that and its over,but fact is you can't answer it truthfully. When CL can't throw to anyone other than carroo its because Carroo is the greatest, But when rettig never plays with carroo you guys are quick to dismiss he deserves a chance.
Rettig minus Carroo looks better than CL minus Carroo....FACT
So let rettig play with Carroo and lets see what happens
I am glad the graphs helped. For the future, I recommend Hooked on Phonics.
Still spread the ball to other players and had to pick a game Carroo played.
Washington State
Grant 5
Carroo 4
Scarf 4
Flanagan 3
Berger 2
Archb 1
Patton 1
James 1
Goodwin 1
Hicks 1
Against a 2nd / 3rd team defense in garbage time. Not saying Rettig couldn't do that vs a first team, but you can't call it apples to apples. I do concur that the coaches allow him to chuck it deep when he is in there and he connected on 2 of his deep attempts. However, he's 3 for 11 in the rest of his throws. He obviously has strengths and weaknesses.
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