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Would you be a little upset when we finally made it to the NCAA and...

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...we ended up in the First Four in Dayton?

I hate the First Four/Play-in games. Get rid of them.
 
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I would be more pissed if got to the tourney and ended up playing a conference foe the first round that you have already played at least twice. There is some talk of them getting rid of the no "same conference" games in the early rounds and trying to do more actual seeding.
 
I have a bigger issue with a conference champion being sent to the first four. I think that the final 8 at large teams should have to play in the first 4. While the talent level on these teams may exceed the conference champions from the lower conferences; they did not win their conference and should be the teams that do not get the full NCAA experience.
 
Dayton, BTW, is a great college basketball town. Deserving of a chance to showcase itself as an NCAA site host each year. Without checking, I bet the attendance figures are better than what we would expect.
 
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Been to Dayton on business several times - great little town. Would definitely love to go there for RU in NCAAs(If it happens before I'm too old to go!)
 
Yes it is-----one of the best environments around for college basketball.
 
I have a bigger issue with a conference champion being sent to the first four. I think that the final 8 at large teams should have to play in the first 4. While the talent level on these teams may exceed the conference champions from the lower conferences; they did not win their conference and should be the teams that do not get the full NCAA experience.


on the flip side, it gives these teams a chance to win a NCAA tourney game and be showcased in front of the nation and allows the winner to get two games.....great opportunity rather than disappearing in obsecurity getting blown out by a one seed
 
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I think we would be slightly pissed getting shipped off to a West Coast site. Northwestern fans aren't exactly gobbling up tickets in Salt Lake City sending resale prices through the roof. Meanwhile, tickets for the 1st round session involving Duke and South Carolina in Greenville are going for $225 or more.
 
Honestly agree with both sides. The first four doesn't make an ounce of sense to me but would take it in a heartbeat to put an end to our NCAA drought.
 
Is this some kind of joke? RU has not made the NCAA since 1991, and hasn't made the NIT since 2006, and our fans are already whining about a possible seed in some distant year? Oh my goodness.

Honestly agree with both sides. The first four doesn't make an ounce of sense to me but would take it in a heartbeat to put an end to our NCAA drought.

Yeah seriously. Chill out. Just a question for conversation.
 
Nobody except real diehards pay attention until Thursday. That's the reality. So, yes, it looks good on the resume and you can say you made the tournament but it comes with an asterisk if you're not playing on Thursday or Friday. So, to answer the original question, yeah, I'd be a little disappointed but I also know that if we ever do make it again more than likely it will be in the First Four and, of course, I'd still be jacked. Does that make any sense?
 
You mean we had a good and fun season and were selected to college sports premiere event ?
Yeah , I would really really really be upset. Much prefer 3-13 in conference play type of seasons! Really?
 
This is no way we can make the tournament and be a 65 to 68 seeded team.
That's not how it works. The last four at large teams play each other (this year if they win they advance as an 11 seed) and the last four other teams play (conference winners from 4 worst leagues usually) to advance as a 16 seed.
 
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...we ended up in the First Four in Dayton?

I hate the First Four/Play-in games. Get rid of them.

The first 4 games started because a minor conference split, and the power 6 refused to give up an at large bid, so they created that first play-in game. I think the first 4 are stupid, and should be eliminated. If anything (and I can't remember who) I would have made the conference that split play each other every year to get in and left the tournament alone at 64.
 
The first 4 games started because a minor conference split, and the power 6 refused to give up an at large bid, so they created that first play-in game. I think the first 4 are stupid, and should be eliminated. If anything (and I can't remember who) I would have made the conference that split play each other every year to get in and left the tournament alone at 64.

That was the old 65 team tournament, where there was a play-in game usually by the two lowest seeded teams in the tournament. Like SWAC teams. That was after the MWC and the WAC split, but it was the lowest seeded team that would go in the 16 vs 16 slot.

The "First Four" was just to expand the tournament for ratings and to avoid controversy on the bubble, which of course just gets pushed lower. They were talking about expanding to 90-something teams at one point which was obviously met with disdain.

Anyway, VCU came out of the first four to go to the final four in 2011 by blitzing USC. What a run that was. The answer is no, I wouldn't be disappointed because I'd hope that if we lost, we wouldn't go 30+ more years before we are in tournament discussion.
 
I have a bigger issue with a conference champion being sent to the first four. I think that the final 8 at large teams should have to play in the first 4. While the talent level on these teams may exceed the conference champions from the lower conferences; they did not win their conference and should be the teams that do not get the full NCAA experience.
I disagree with this take. The better teams should get the preferential positions. It is athletics, not some social justice thing. The truth is that those small conference teams are lucky to be included at all... they should have to play each other in play-in games. If they are truly deserving of the better spots then they should win the play-in and then win the 1st round.

But since I am against byes.. juts expand to 128 and make everyone play on tuesday/wednesday
 
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I have a bigger issue with a conference champion being sent to the first four. I think that the final 8 at large teams should have to play in the first 4. While the talent level on these teams may exceed the conference champions from the lower conferences; they did not win their conference and should be the teams that do not get the full NCAA experience.
Agree. Even from the perspective of the NCAA, I dont get it. Surely 11 vs 11 is going to get alot more viewers than 16 vs 16.
 
While I’d sign up for a play-in game in a second, if we lost, many would feel like we didn’t even make the tourney.
 
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I would not be bummed at all.

However, my biggest fear is that we go in as a 1 seed and become the first team to lose to a 16 seed.

While this would suck and we’d get busted on, it would mean that we are a pretty good team and have good days ahead.
 
I would be more pissed if got to the tourney and ended up playing a conference foe the first round that you have already played at least twice. There is some talk of them getting rid of the no "same conference" games in the early rounds and trying to do more actual seeding.

that would be bad!
 
I have a bigger issue with a conference champion being sent to the first four. I think that the final 8 at large teams should have to play in the first 4. While the talent level on these teams may exceed the conference champions from the lower conferences; they did not win their conference and should be the teams that do not get the full NCAA experience.

My opinion is basically the opposite of this.

I think the first four is kind of stupid in itself, but if you are going to do it, it should be the four worst teams. Having a play-in game into an 11 seed is just dumb.
 
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This thread convinces me that when the name Rutgers finally appears on the screen on Selection Sunday, we have a number of fans who will have the balls to complain about seeding, location, and opponent.
 
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...we ended up in the First Four in Dayton?

I hate the First Four/Play-in games. Get rid of them.
Not one bit. We'd be the media darlings, just like Northwestern is now. Except we're in the media capital of the world so it would be even more pronounced. We now have the longest NCAA tournament drought, so that type of positive publicity would go a long way. Of course nj.com would rehash the whole Rice fiasco, but even they would have to give us props. Well, maybe they would.
 
The only way ANY question that starts with "Would you be a little upset if we finally made it to the NCAAs and ..." ends with a "Yes" is if you close it with "and you died on the day after the selection show."

Otherwise, nope. Not upset. At all.
 
My opinion is basically the opposite of this.

I think the first four is kind of stupid in itself, but if you are going to do it, it should be the four worst teams. Having a play-in game into an 11 seed is just dumb.

I disagree vehemently. It should not be the four worst teams, but it should be the four worst at-large teams, as they are the ones who would have been left out without play-in games.

The 16s should NOT be in Dayton. They earned their way in.
 
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