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Oh stop! He wasn't putting the programs down. He was stating the obvious. While I will give Pikiell a lot of credit for what he has done, he is nowhere near where the program needs to be. I get it..give him time. We've been saying that about every coach that comes in for every sport. That says we ain't good! Ash, by the hand of God, still has a job. Never seen act guy so serious about a team that is going nowhere. It's almost like he is putting on a concerned coach act, to distract from pissed off fans.Kinda douchey ...no need to put other programs down while being proud of the accomplishments in recruiting for another.
Not to mention a total of 9.9 scholarships which most schools don’t even offer the full amount. On top of that you have maybe two dozen school who actually invest in their wrestling program and have the resources to compete.Its also nonsensical. There are like 300 D1 basketball schools, and like 60 wrestling schools. Top 100 should be the floor for a recruit committing to RU for wrestling, and in most cases, I believe it is. Top 100 in basketball indicates a player who will be a difference maker on 95% of teams.
I saw that they are in the SoCon, but where is Presbyterian based out of?
Not to mention a total of 9.9 scholarships which most schools don’t even offer the full amount. On top of that you have maybe two dozen school who actually invest in their wrestling program and have the resources to compete.
I don't think that the most ardent of wrestling fans-and I'm not even including myself in that-would disagree with what you two are saying, but why is it so important to discount the OP's point of bringing some accolades to the program?That is really the point. There are about 20 relevant wrestling programs, and probably 60-70 relevant programs in football and basketball.
South CarolinaI saw that they are in the SoCon, but where is Presbyterian based out of?
Are you talking wrestling? If so, no, Rutgers has a top 5 class.Did that have us ranked at 30 behind a bunch of teams we regularly destroy like mich st? What kind of shit ranking was that
Uh, are we in this group? :grimace:and probably 60-70 relevant programs in football and basketball.
Uh, are we in this group? :grimace:
Oh stop! He wasn't putting the programs down. He was stating the obvious. While I will give Pikiell a lot of credit for what he has done, he is nowhere near where the program needs to be. I get it..give him time. We've been saying that about every coach that comes in for every sport. That says we ain't good! Ash, by the hand of God, still has a job. Never seen act guy so serious about a team that is going nowhere. It's almost like he is putting on a concerned coach act, to distract from pissed off fans.
I hear what you're saying Nuts, but at this point our football program is one long running joke and I'm a season ticket holder. I have no hope for this season and see none on the horizon. Frankly we suck. Basketball on the other hand I see a light of hope and each year Pike has shown that light brighter. Football, Ash and Hobbs deserve all the criticism and backlash they get.He absolutely used football and hoops to prop up wrestling...there was ZERO need to even mention them...and I’m a big wrestling fan, so it’s GREAT to hear, but why bother throwing 2 other programs under the bus (and between here and twitter I’m not the only one who felt this way).