WVU guard Kerr Kriisa in the portal

[Scangg]

Ya your not making any sense.
GG is taller than Hyatt.
So does that mean GG is the 4?

What about Mag? Is he a 2 since he’s shorter and better defensively?

What about 6’5” PF Ron? Would he be a 2 next to GG?

The focus on these numbers is the problem. 2, 3 - they don’t mean anything.

If GG comes in and is great defensively - does he switch from a 3 to a 2 all of a sudden?
Or does he stay a “3” because he’s taller than Simpson? (Ignoring he’s taller than Hyatt but Hyatt can’t be a 3 even though he’s shorter. Now I’m getting confused…..”

When you get to the 4 strength comes into play. You need to be able to battle down low more and rebound compared to a 3. Hyatt and Ron are significantly stronger and weigh a lot more than Gavin. I think you're missing the point on purpose. It's not that complicated

 

[Nycrusupporter]

It seems like you're saying 2 & 3 are the same, with the taller guy guarding the other teams taller guy. Which is pretty much what I was getting at by asking what is a pure 3, a tall 2?

Cam was a mismatch guarding smaller, quicker 2's but everyone still called him a 2 (I'll bet Gavin has better footspeed).
What if you play some zone, or switching man to man?

Let me explain this in a little different way starting with the NBA and bring it back to why it is relevant to Gavin. In the NBA shooting guards are generally the most hyper athletic guys on the team, tremendous speed and leaping ability, in addition to being exceptional shooters. Gavin is a good athlete, better than a lot of people think, but he is not a shooting guard in the NBA, just about any first string NBA SG could blow by him any time they wanted, even projecting out his development a few years. He is playing small forward in the NBA. Why is that important? When you have these highly rated kids, part of the deal is you have to showcase them in a way that advances their stock for the NBA. If you play Gavin out of position, not accentuating his best attributes for the NBA, you are potentially not only hurting him, but all the people who advise the most highly rated kids will be warning them that Rutgers is not committed to working to get them the best possible outcome for their professional future. It is a balancing act, and teams like Duke and Kentucky have repeatedly done things that many not have been in the best short term interest of the team, but was in the long term interest of the player because they want these top level kids to keep coming to their programs.

 

[RU84]

Let me explain this in a little different way starting with the NBA and bring it back to why it is relevant to Gavin. In the NBA shooting guards are generally the most hyper athletic guys on the team, tremendous speed and leaping ability, in addition to being exceptional shooters. Gavin is a good athlete, better than a lot of people think, but he is not a shooting guard in the NBA, just about any first string NBA SG could blow by him any time they wanted, even projecting out his development a few years. He is playing small forward in the NBA. Why is that important? When you have these highly rated kids, part of the deal is you have to showcase them in a way that advances their stock for the NBA. If you play Gavin out of position, not accentuating his best attributes for the NBA, you are potentially not only hurting him, but all the people who advise the most highly rated kids will be warning them that Rutgers is not committed to working to get them the best possible outcome for their professional future. It is a balancing act, and teams like Duke and Kentucky have repeatedly done things that many not have been in the best short term interest of the team, but was in the long term interest of the player because they want these top level kids to keep coming to their programs.

What about Duncan Robinson? He’s a small forward/ SG and carved out a decent NBA career. You can make an argument he can be a comp for Gavin. I wouldn’t get too hung up in labels and positions in this era of position less basketball. Until proven otherwise, I trust the coaching staff will find a way to max his talents for both the team and himself.

 

[MiloTalon13]

Let me explain this in a little different way starting with the NBA and bring it back to why it is relevant to Gavin. In the NBA shooting guards are generally the most hyper athletic guys on the team, tremendous speed and leaping ability, in addition to being exceptional shooters. Gavin is a good athlete, better than a lot of people think, but he is not a shooting guard in the NBA, just about any first string NBA SG could blow by him any time they wanted, even projecting out his development a few years. He is playing small forward in the NBA. Why is that important? When you have these highly rated kids, part of the deal is you have to showcase them in a way that advances their stock for the NBA. If you play Gavin out of position, not accentuating his best attributes for the NBA, you are potentially not only hurting him, but all the people who advise the most highly rated kids will be warning them that Rutgers is not committed to working to get them the best possible outcome for their professional future. It is a balancing act, and teams like Duke and Kentucky have repeatedly done things that many not have been in the best short term interest of the team, but was in the long term interest of the player because they want these top level kids to keep coming to their programs.

Thanks for the explanation.
I watched a good amount of the NBA playoffs.
It seemed like all the better teams switch many picks and almost all guard-to-guard or guard-to-forward picks.
Making the ability to defend multiple positions perhaps the most valuable defensive skillset
Doesn't that discredit the whole "he has to defend a 3 because he'll play 3 in the NBA" argument?

 

[Nycrusupporter]

Thanks for the explanation.
I watched a good amount of the NBA playoffs.
It seemed like all the better teams switch many picks and almost all guard-to-guard or guard-to-forward picks.
Making the ability to defend multiple positions perhaps the most valuable defensive skillset
Doesn't that discredit the whole "he has to defend a 3 because he'll play 3 in the NBA" argument?

There is definitely some switching going on, but players generally stick to their assignments, and when they switch, many times switch back as quickly as possible. Generally NBA defenses try to do two things, prevent open shots and avoid mismatches. There is also a lot less double teaming, so as a defender, if you are in a mismatch, many teams help is not coming, for reason 1, avoiding open shots. There are a few teams with more versatile players who can be more flexible, but generally players stay with their assignments.

 

[MiloTalon13]

There is definitely some switching going on, but players generally stick to their assignments, and when they switch, many times switch back as quickly as possible. Generally NBA defenses try to do two things, prevent open shots and avoid mismatches. There is also a lot less double teaming, so as a defender, if you are in a mismatch, many teams help is not coming, for reason 1, avoiding open shots. There are a few teams with more versatile players who can be more flexible, but generally players stay with their assignments.

I must be watching different NBA games than you do. I see just about every ball screen switched and NBA teams set tons of ball screens.

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

Gavin is a scoring/shooting threat and is going to have to defend 2s or 3s at the college or Pro level. I am not saying he is Joe Weiskamp of Iowa a few years ago, but he is the closing comp I have for Gavin and why Iowa was on Gavin very early in the recruiting process.

 

[AshCatchEm]

Lots of turnovers down the stretch last year and lost his starting role with Arizona, I would pass here.

We have three guards. What drugs are you on?

 

[Scarlet83]

Is that even a real country? Somebody ask Geo if he's eligible coming from fictional land.

Idiotic post.