NBA is totally different than transferring. It is always understood that if a kid gets a favorable draft projection they should stay in the draft. And teams understand and expect that. Withdrawing from the draft and going to another college team is a completely different thing.
That gesture was not viewed by me as a goodbye gesture. No more than a QB taking his O line out for dinner would be seen that way. All the talk was about how great a guy he is, his Gratitude Foundation, bla bla.
But the draft status of these players is pretty well known long before the deadline to withdraw. There is a lot of leadup to it. The decision to transfer came out of the blue.
You must not pay attention to the NIL market. Centers have been commanding the most money by far for each of the last two years.
Recruiting yes we can complain about that
I get your point but I don’t entirely agree. Did Pike overspend in the portal on reserves while he could have saved more for a talented 5 ?
Considering Pike had to replace 5 players he's off base. The one thing that has hampered Pike most years is bench depth. Only a few years ago, the starters played 30+ minutes and there was no production from the bench.
God forbid this kids actually get paid what they are worth. They’re professionals 100% and always have been.
I’m not against NIL, I’m 100% for it. And I rarely complain about or critique the players or coaches. I did that some when I was younger, but not any longer. And that wouldn’t change no matter how much I donate.
After telling Pike he was staying, Spencer abruptly leaves the weekend before Memorial Day weekend. That is effin late. Spencer totally blindsided Pike. Portal shooting guards are being taken left and right for two whole months before Spencer goes back on his word. The portal was already picked clean and Pike is handed the sh!t sandwich by Spencer causing Pike to scramble to try to replace his starting shooting guard and best scorer.
I get the sentiment. Need to wait to see who else Pike brings in and how big the dropoff is.
good points. we don’t know the payouts. it’s just my opinion NIL priority should be on the center more than three guys, two of whom won’t be starters. sure, we need bench players too but that’s where we should pinch pennies, especially we already have Lathan, Ogbole, Dortch, Grant and Davis in the fold. We do have a bench.
next time i will opt for a triple negative to really confuse.
The answer is very simple. All of these kids desperately want to get to the NBA, and they all generally think they are better than they really are, and have a very difficult time accepting that they are not good enough to get drafted. They are all hoping a team will swoop in at the last minute to give them some hope they can get drafted.
go get paid used to mean leaving early for the pros which I was always fine with. If they want to move into a semi-pro or pro environment than I am fine with that too. Just stop the charade and we can just treat them as such. That's fine too but not everyone has to go along with it and continue to support it.
who's not rooting for the guy? Good for him. it is the concept/current environment I don't like not the player. However let's also not pretend Cliff hasn't been well treated during his college and time at Roselle C. We got plenty of people in the military that have skills and never see their wife and kids. They aren't "getting paid".
It's not totally under his control -- someone on the outside has to be willing to sign the kid he wants to an NIL deal and Pikiell is not supposed to be playing a direct role in that.
yeah I said bama's of the world so you can put OSU and UM and PSU in there. I mentioned them because that is where Cliff is going and I believe it was the reference.
It was reported long ago on the premium side that his handler's were quoted that Cliff was going elsewhere as the season was coming to a close and Rutgers wasn't in consideration. He was going elsewhere. That was well before any NIL discussions or negotiation of late. It was reported on the premium side that Rutgers had all the NIL it needed. Is this some new news I missed that Cliff was willing to come back if Rutgers gave him x?
Wanting to go elsewhere and dis-satisfaction are not necessary the same. I wasn't suggesting he was dis-satisfied. I wouldn't know but didn't ever see or hear he was.
The point is moot. Everyone knew that RU wouldn't be able to match the 7 figure NIL. So RU was out of the picture right of the bat. IF RU had the ability to match the NIL then Cliff would have had to think about it and weigh loyalty (he was crying on senior night) vs. whatever else might be in his mind. But we'll never know because RU was never even in consideration or in the running due to NIL.
This. I don’t get why some folks just don’t understand. This doesn’t mean we have no NIL resources. Just not what the market calls for to pay one BIG man for a season over $1M. We probably could’ve come up with 500K but for Cliff that wasn’t going to be enough. Now, it’s a matter of spending wisely and it’s not even about budget resources only I’m sure Pike doesn’t want to overpay for a guy who isn’t necessarily going to be better than Somerville or Ogbole. That’s how resentments and bad chemistry develop. While we don’t get a report on what the NIL deals are I bet the details spread amongst the players.
What are you talking about. Cliff's NIL agent already had intel on what he could make elsewhere and RU was never in the ballpark with it's NIL pool. Richie's made that clear from the get go. And yes then it escalate above those original amounts since it was near $1m originally.
I would not trade either Dylan or Ace. Not a chance. They are the whole reason this season is going to be insanely exciting. Could be one for the ages.
