No, the RFC paid for a single keg. RU did not pay anything. At least in my day.Or the Friday Social Drink.
RU paid for the pizza and the beer.
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No, the RFC paid for a single keg. RU did not pay anything. At least in my day.Or the Friday Social Drink.
RU paid for the pizza and the beer.
Is there liability, of course. Can it be done in a way to mitigate that liability, yes. Can there be a giant student tailgate where everyone has responsible fun, yes. Will it increase student attendance, yes. Will it create lifelong fans and make memories for the student body, yes
The admin just has to be willing to give it a shot. Liability will never be zero, in anything.
If the plans to build the football training facilty on the yellow lot and a soccer practice field on the blue lot are true, then maybe RU should start by not destroying tailgating altogether, before worrying about student tailgating.you are not wrong on this at all, Rutgers needs to foster student tailgating, not inhibit it
people complain, people get upset when it's called out. Hell just look at that guy on the roundtable practically having an aneurysm because of an example about complaining with Greg. people have become way way too ridiculous
but you are 100% correct
Bruh, first rule of fight club...No, the RFC paid for a single keg. RU did not pay anything. At least in my day.
Which was suggested by someone in the thread.With the current don't ask, don't tell laws in NJ regarding alcohol and marijuana, there should be a workable compromise. I would suggest carving out an area for students. That could be the old Ally area, or a circus tent in blue lot. It would be fenced in and a student ID is needed to enter. RUPD can have a visible presence to prevent any stupid behavior. Allow student groups to rent space within the area, for a fee. The greek orgs would band together and have a common DJ/stage. Have a BYOB policy. I know local businesses would be happy to sponsor this area. RU is not selling alcohol. RU is not condoning underage drinking. RU is actually creating an area where students can congregate and enjoy a college GameDay tailgate as student body. The stadium is literally on the way home. Students will go to the game if they're already on Busch. Then it's up to RUFB to play competitive games and keep them in the stands
Is there liability, of course. Can it be done in a way to mitigate that liability, yes. Can there be a giant student tailgate where everyone has responsible fun, yes. Will it increase student attendance, yes. Will it create lifelong fans and make memories for the student body, yes
The admin just has to be willing to give it a shot. Liability will never be zero, in anything. There are dozens of sexual assaults in residence halls every year, but we don't close down the dorms. Same idea, remove and ticket the stupid, but allow the other 98% to enjoy what would be come a fantastic tradition. As an RU alum and RU parent, I would much prefer my kids in The Alley, then behind an off campus house or frat with little to no supervision....and I'm a frat advisor :) Athletics and Hobbs had the right idea, just need the folks across the river to buy in.
Also suggested by someone in the thread.Oh, and if they did revive the Alley in some way, shape or form, keep the MCSO's far, far away from it.
Fair point.If the plans to build the football training facility on the yellow lot and a soccer practice field on the blue lot are true, then maybe RU should start by not destroying tailgating altogether, before worrying about student tailgating.
With the current don't ask, don't tell laws in NJ regarding alcohol and marijuana, there should be a workable compromise. I would suggest carving out an area for students. That could be the old Ally area, or a circus tent in blue lot. It would be fenced in and a student ID is needed to enter. RUPD can have a visible presence to prevent any stupid behavior. Allow student groups to rent space within the area, for a fee. The greek orgs would band together and have a common DJ/stage. Have a BYOB policy. I know local businesses would be happy to sponsor this area. RU is not selling alcohol. RU is not condoning underage drinking. RU is actually creating an area where students can congregate and enjoy a college GameDay tailgate as student body. The stadium is literally on the way home. Students will go to the game if they're already on Busch. Then it's up to RUFB to play competitive games and keep them in the stands
Is there liability, of course. Can it be done in a way to mitigate that liability, yes. Can there be a giant student tailgate where everyone has responsible fun, yes. Will it increase student attendance, yes. Will it create lifelong fans and make memories for the student body, yes
The admin just has to be willing to give it a shot. Liability will never be zero, in anything. There are dozens of sexual assaults in residence halls every year, but we don't close down the dorms. Same idea, remove and ticket the stupid, but allow the other 98% to enjoy what would be come a fantastic tradition. As an RU alum and RU parent, I would much prefer my kids in The Alley, then behind an off campus house or frat with little to no supervision....and I'm a frat advisor :) Athletics and Hobbs had the right idea, just need the folks across the river to buy in.
Need folks to rally the fans in the lots and lead a procession to the stadium... European soccer style.
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It would become giant in a short time, just like the Alley did after one week. Parking passes could never be coordinated to drive in together and you don’t want students driving at all. Need University buy-in at the highest level to create the space. It also needs to be confined/fenced to be controlled. RU has to be “all in “ or it won’t work.Steve this is an area where I am super passionate, as you are, about. We’ve talked about it on many threads.
What would stop us from organizing a student focused tailgate ?
- we get some sponsors and donors to fund parking passes for them
- we let a Greek or two play host each game where they get the DJ and beverages and they influence their friends to come
- maybe we throw some more money at it to hype it up more with decor , additional entertainment, giveaways, food, etc
It would start slow perhaps but after 2-3 games, just like the Alley , it could become a thing that students enjoy and a new tradition
lol you must have commuted
Been to many stadiums throughout the country. And South Carolina does it the best. Self contained and controlled and patrolled by Greek Council.It would become giant in a short time, just like the Alley did after one week. Parking passes could never be coordinated to drive in together and you don’t want students driving at all. Need University buy-in at the highest level to create the space. It also needs to be confined/fenced to be controlled. RU has to be “all in “ or it won’t work.
I’m sure the Boardwalk costs tens of thousands of dollars each week and it’s great. Let’s spend a little on the students and give them an area too
They still tailgate but they do it at the fraternities, dorms, and off campus housing. Personally I liked when the students TG'd in the Blue lot. Seeing 17-21 y/o females was a good energy to be around.So what?
So people complained and now students don't tailgate. You got what you wanted. Don't complain about students not going to the game and/or not becoming fans then. Tailgating as a student was a pretty big part of the undergraduate experience at the time. And now it's not.
They still tailgate but they do it at the fraternities, dorms, and off campus housing. Personally I liked when the students TG'd in the Blue lot. Seeing 17-21 y/o females was a good energy to be around.
staying to the end is going to be pretty strongly correlated to what is happening on the field, so that is kind of hard to control.Is the goal to get them in the stadium for kick off and stay to the end or to have them tailgate? Because this thread is all over the place.
Both.Is the goal to get them in the stadium for kick off and stay to the end or to have them tailgate? Because this thread is all over the place.
i think that area is too small....and also on the other side of the stadium from where they have to enter...they should parse out a section of Johnson Park, put a few high volume food trucks for them there to pregame til 1 hour before kickoff.. fact need to make it cost effective and entertaining....I'm just wondering if the area next to the intramural fields they gave them, which was about the time we started tp stink IIRC, would work now?
Didn't the roofies take the energy right out of the room, so to speak?They still tailgate but they do it at the fraternities, dorms, and off campus housing. Personally I liked when the students TG'd in the Blue lot. Seeing 17-21 y/o females was a good energy to be around.
Nope. Do it there in the Middlesex County sheriffs department runs the show. No thank you.i think that area is too small....and also on the other side of the stadium from where they have to enter...they should parse out a section of Johnson Park, put a few high volume food trucks for them there to pregame til 1 hour before kickoff.. fact need to make it cost effective and entertaining....
I wouldn't know but why don't you tell us all about your experiences!Didn't the roofies take the energy right out of the room, so to speak?
I recall that Hamsterdam idea, seemed like a good solutionI think what some of the posters are missing is that demand for parking/tickets etc. increased during that year because it was our first year in the B1G. You had more donors, long-time season ticketholders mixed in with the student tailgates because they may have been moved from lots where there weren't students.
The donors/season ticketholders probably don't see it as unreasonable to expect that people wouldn't puke on their car or p$ss on them. This was discussed at length at the time with the Hamsterdam student section proposed. Someone even drew a map with the proposed carve out for students. Can't really compare that year to 1995-99 or even some of the 2005-09 years.
My group was only in there for that year because of a donation snafu that got us bounced from Yellow.
Went to RU Wisconsin a few years ago in the driving rain and stadium just as empty as RU in bad weather. Those who want to badmouth RU will but pretty much the same after the biggies, Michigan, PSU, OSU, Iowa and Nebby. Purdue maybe too but not as big.Correct. Start of the 2ND QUARTER. And it was not 2/3rds full at KO. I'll GLADLY "go to the videotape" on that one.
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Off topic, but South Carolina also has those Cockaboose's that are pretty unique for tailgating. http://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/so...give-south-carolina-unique-gameday-tradition/Been to many stadiums throughout the country. And South Carolina does it the best. Self contained and controlled and patrolled by Greek Council.
They do it right. Have the Rutgers Greek council reach out and find out how they were able to make it work. South Carolina had the same issues as Rutgers and they figured out a way to make it all work.
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Lane stadium began clearing out mid-3rd quarter tonight in Blacksburg. Why? Because it was a BLOWOUT on a Thursday night. ESPN cameras haven't been "panning" the stadium since.Went to RU Wisconsin a few years ago in the driving rain and stadium just as empty as RU in bad weather. Those who want to badmouth RU will but pretty much the same after the biggies, Michigan, PSU, OSU, Iowa and Nebby. Purdue maybe too but not as big.
Didn't the roofies take the energy right out of the room, so to speak?
Does he know 17 is a child?
You’re there?#3 OSU at Wisconsin....midway through 1st quarter....top 10 rows of Wisconsin student section STILL not not filled in yet (for about 4 sections; 5 rows for the rest).
No....I'm watching on TV....and there have been a few shots of the student section that you can easily see the sections that are filled to the top yet.You’re there?
That means nothing.It’s a much bigger student section than at RU
Not sure what point you’re trying to make ?
Could you have picked two of the worst games to associate attendance to....Having terrible crowds at home games is very much a "Rutgers thing." Both the Wagner and Michigan State crowds were embarrassing despite the fraudulent attendance numbers announced by the athletic department. Can't wait to see the actual turnstile numbers, which Politi said he's in the process of obtaining.
No Rutgers fan should be criticizing football attendance at other schools. We might have the lowest actual attendance in the Big Ten.