2019 Wrestling Predictions

[Leonard23]

I don't know about the prior history but current Rider head coach Hangey is a good guy, would be great to see Rider on the schedule.

Gary Taylor, the previous head-coach was also a classy guy. And I agree. Would enjoy seeing Rider on the schedule, as they've had teams in the recent past that would have given Rutgers one heck of a competitive match.

Rider coaches spouted off on twitter a few years ago. Others (maybe @obrats) remember as well.

You missed my point. Rider certainly isn't getting rid of wrestling. Believe me, Rutgers was way closer to dropping it than Rider ever will be. Judging by your comments, I'm not sure you understand and appreciate Rider wrestling, that program is like gold over there.

I'm talking the sport of WRESTLING. If people continue to be parochial, you can all but guarantee the sport will go by way of badminton or croquet.

Condescending much? I didn't miss anything and understand the history. I don't care about Rider. Rutgers wrestling Rider does nothing for the sport of wrestling. It does nothing for Rutgers. I don't need to see it.

 

[rdefabri]

Condescending much? I didn't miss anything and understand the history. I don't care about Rider. Rutgers wrestling Rider does nothing for the sport of wrestling. It does nothing for Rutgers. I don't need to see it.

Yes you did. The fact that "you don't care about" another wrestling program demonstrates that.

I'm sure you didn't care about Eastern Michigan too? Guess what, in short time, that could be Rutgers and it darn nearly was if not for Pernetti getting you in the B10.

 

[wngarbarini]

The coaches and a few wrestlers popped off about us not wrestling them a year ago. I talked with the whole team and coaches in the airport coming back from NCAAs in St Louis I think. The conversation was about that and imploring on me to intercede to make that happen. I had my RU wrestling gear on and some of them knew me.

 

[Leonard23]

Yes you did. The fact that "you don't care about" another wrestling program demonstrates that.

I'm sure you didn't care about Eastern Michigan too? Guess what, in short time, that could be Rutgers and it darn nearly was if not for Pernetti getting you in the B10.

That will not be Rutgers and getting into the B1G had nothing to do with us keeping wrestling from being cut in 2006 when it almost was. You clearly know nothing about our history. Now, go run back to the Rider or SHU board.

The coaches and a few wrestlers popped off about us not wrestling them a year ago. I talked with the whole team and coaches in the airport coming back from NCAAs in St Louis I think. The conversation was about that and imploring on me to intercede to make that happen. I had my RU wrestling gear on and some of them knew me.

There ya go... Intercede to make what happen? Are we wrestling them?

 

[rdefabri]

That will not be Rutgers and getting into the B1G had nothing to do with us keeping wrestling from being cut in 2006 when it almost was. You clearly know nothing about our history. Now, go run back to the Rider or SHU board.
There ya go... Intercede to make what happen? Are we wrestling them?

Lol, you sure told me.

I'm sure my knowledge of Rutgers and University history would make you blush.

 

[belushijo]

Rider coaches spouted off on twitter a few years ago. Others (maybe @obrats) remember as well.

This would just add to the match intrigue for me. People wanna pop off, settle it on the mat like the gladiators they are!

 

[Abro1975]

Who the heck remembers a Rider Coach's tweets from 2-4 years ago? lol. 3 people? lol , how many followers can a Rider coach possibly have? How many of the 40,000 NJ HS fans that flock to Atlantic City every March might be interested to see 2 D1 NJ teams wrestle with NJ HS stars that won or placed at AC? I think plenty.. How many would know of the Rider Coach's tweets from 2-4 years ago? I say no more than 2, LOL.
Do you want to grow interest? Sell some tickets? Or hold a twitter grudge from 2-4 years ago, that extremely few people are even aware of ? I've followed RU Wrestling closely for about 10 years now, before that casually for a long time, and honestly, I don't know what the F the Rider coach even tweeted. I don't even know his name!

 

[RobotHunter]

Going to be tough for Suriano if he stays at 125 with phenom Daton Fix and of course Lee to deal with.

 

[koleszar]

Well, obviously I'd rather be in a heated gym where I'm closer to the action. Nothing beats places like the Pit where you can literally feel the energy throughout the arena.
Hoping to go to my first match at the RAC next season. But if they do have an outdoor dual, it'd be awesome for it to be a PSU level team since the RAC might sell out quickly.

O your going to have fun. The RAC is quite boisterous. There's definitely a lot of knowledgeable NJ wrestling fans in those stands and they're not afraid to voice their opinion.

 

[bigmatt718]

O your going to have fun. The RAC is quite boisterous. There's definitely a lot of knowledgeable NJ wrestling fans in those stands and they're not afraid to voice their opinion.

The RAC has quickly become one of the most intimidating home mat advantages in the nation. RU Wrestling fans are absolutely rabid and know their stuff.

 

[koleszar]

Yes you did. The fact that "you don't care about" another wrestling program demonstrates that.

I'm sure you didn't care about Eastern Michigan too? Guess what, in short time, that could be Rutgers and it darn nearly was if not for Pernetti getting you in the B10.

NO, No, No, you have history wrong. It was 12 yrs. ago that Rutgers wrestling was on the chopping block. Mulcahy the AD at the time wanted to keep it(forward thinking), it was the BOG that wanted to eliminate it(back asswards thinking). Pernetti had nothing to do with it except increasing some funding but not fully. It was Mulcahy who saved Rutgers wrestling and forbade it from being eliminated.

Also the sport has pretty much stabilized now since the Title IX purge. Sure you have a school once in a while in a financial crunch like Eastern Michigan(they're hemorrhaging money) but then you have Presbyterian and Arkansas-Little Rock both joining Div. 1 next year.

 

[Ole Cabbagehead]

Yes you did. The fact that "you don't care about" another wrestling program demonstrates that.

I'm sure you didn't care about Eastern Michigan too? Guess what, in short time, that could be Rutgers and it darn nearly was if not for Pernetti getting you in the B10.

You are talking out both sides of your mouth. You seem to readily admit that neither Rutgers nor Rider wrestling is in danger of going away. But then claim that parochial thinking of that nature could lead to the death of the sport.

The two don't jibe. Fact of the matter is that parochialism does hurt wrestling, and wrestling does need to find ways to reach a wider audience. However, it is equally true that a Rider-Rutgers dual has very little to do with that. Both programs are stable, as is the sport in general in the State of New Jersey.

 

[rdefabri]

NO, No, No, you have history wrong. It was 12 yrs. ago that Rutgers wrestling was on the chopping block. Mulcahy the AD at the time wanted to keep it(forward thinking), it was the BOG that wanted to eliminate it(back asswards thinking). Pernetti had nothing to do with it except increasing some funding but not fully. It was Mulcahy who saved Rutgers wrestling and forbade it from being eliminated.

Also the sport has pretty much stabilized now since the Title IX purge. Sure you have a school once in a while in a financial crunch like Eastern Michigan(they're hemorrhaging money) but then you have Presbyterian and Arkansas-Little Rock both joining Div. 1 next year.

I know the history - maybe I'm speaking the wrong language. Mulcahy was fired for basically spending out of control, in particular to shore up the football. When he was fired, I can assure you the program was in the crosshairs. Once Pernetti started negotiating the B10, where wrestling is a must have, it saved it.

If Rutgers doesn't get into the B10, the wrestling program would have been eliminated IMHO.

 

[rdefabri]

You are talking out both sides of your mouth. You seem to readily admit that neither Rutgers nor Rider wrestling is in danger of going away. But then claim that parochial thinking of that nature could lead to the death of the sport.

The two don't jibe. Fact of the matter is that parochialism does hurt wrestling, and wrestling does need to find ways to reach a wider audience. However, it is equally true that a Rider-Rutgers dual has very little to do with that. Both programs are stable, as is the sport in general in the State of New Jersey.

Do your research before saying someone is talking out both sides of their mouth:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kristi...giate-wrestling-isnt-at-division-i-level/amp/

I can produce any number of articles showing the decline. The sport is dying at the Division 1 level.

Any of you guys read "Only the Paranoid Survive"? I bet the Romans never thought the good times would end. Ah, but they did.

Not so long ago, UConn was a basketball powerhouse - not so much now. Without the natural enemies the Big East provided, who cares anymore? Shoot, Ollie won a national title as both a player and a coach, and he was fired.

In NJ, you are right - we're good for now. But the NJSIAA and NJ Legislature are playing games (proposals to allow schools to combine teams if not enough players; too many weight classes, etc), and you may see participation numbers decline (I believe across the country, HS wrestling participation is down, but I could be wrong). If that happens, watch out.

 

[PhilaPhans]

Who the heck remembers a Rider Coach's tweets from 2-4 years ago? lol. 3 people? lol , how many followers can a Rider coach possibly have? How many of the 40,000 NJ HS fans that flock to Atlantic City every March might be interested to see 2 D1 NJ teams wrestle with NJ HS stars that won or placed at AC? I think plenty.. How many would know of the Rider Coach's tweets from 2-4 years ago? I say no more than 2, LOL.
Do you want to grow interest? Sell some tickets? Or hold a twitter grudge from 2-4 years ago, that extremely few people are even aware of ? I've followed RU Wrestling closely for about 10 years now, before that casually for a long time, and honestly, I don't know what the F the Rider coach even tweeted. I don't even know his name!

I remembered them. It got a bit nasty.

 

[rdefabri]

You are talking out both sides of your mouth. You seem to readily admit that neither Rutgers nor Rider wrestling is in danger of going away. But then claim that parochial thinking of that nature could lead to the death of the sport.

The two don't jibe. Fact of the matter is that parochialism does hurt wrestling, and wrestling does need to find ways to reach a wider audience. However, it is equally true that a Rider-Rutgers dual has very little to do with that. Both programs are stable, as is the sport in general in the State of New Jersey.

By the way - you do agree that the parochialism is hurting the sport. Then let's take a hypothetical situation - what if Rider's program WAS in jeopardy, and they could benefit from the exposure and possible revenue from a match? Would you want to help them then? That parochialism could lead to the loss of a program - why wouldn't the schools want to help each other?

I'm pretty sure Rider is reasonably funded, but I did NOT know that Lock Haven isn't. In fact, Coach Moore has to do a ton of fundraising just to make ends meet there, and that's a decent program. Exactly the type of program that would benefit from a Penn State rolling into town.

If you love the sport, you would get what I'm saying. If you get your feelings hurt by a tweet ("parochialism") and choose not to wrestle, then you are contributing to the sport's demise.

Side note - Rider had some good teams of recent vintage and Rutgers has beaten them every time in the Goodale era IIRC. So I'm struggling to understand why they aren't on the schedule.

This is what I'm talking about:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/articl...nnounce_the_garden_state_hardwood_classic.amp

 

[TRU2RU]

I know the history - maybe I'm speaking the wrong language. Mulcahy was fired for basically spending out of control, in particular to shore up the football. When he was fired, I can assure you the program was in the crosshairs. Once Pernetti started negotiating the B10, where wrestling is a must have, it saved it.

If Rutgers doesn't get into the B10, the wrestling program would have been eliminated IMHO.

TOTAL BS!!!!!

 

[CerealNTacos]

My high school Alma Mater struggles to field a full line up in wrestling. There are a lot of high school sports being cut in recent times. It’s a shame, really.

 

[koleszar]

I know the history - maybe I'm speaking the wrong language. Mulcahy was fired for basically spending out of control, in particular to shore up the football. When he was fired, I can assure you the program was in the crosshairs. Once Pernetti started negotiating the B10, where wrestling is a must have, it saved it.

If Rutgers doesn't get into the B10, the wrestling program would have been eliminated IMHO.

Where did your research come from? Because it sounds like you just plagiarized the Star Ledger verbatim. You serious can't be this obtuse, the sport was destined for the chopping block back in 2006, Pernetti didn't become AD until 2009 talks for B1G entrance started at the end of 2011. Entrance was announced in 2012. One of the 1st things Pernetti did was increase scholarship money for the sport.

So I fail to see the timeline when it was in the crosshair's. You don't increase spending if your going to axe something. Just because you say, "I can assure you" means diddly squat. It's a completely irrational position you've taken with no facts, but your word and a Star Ledger headline which was proven false. O and I write in the English language.

 

[rdefabri]

Where did your research come from? Because it sounds like you just plagiarized the Star Ledger verbatim. You serious can't be this obtuse, the sport was destined for the chopping block back in 2006, Pernetti didn't become AD until 2009 talks for B1G entrance started at the end of 2011. Entrance was announced in 2012. One of the 1st things Pernetti did was increase scholarship money for the sport.

So I fail to see the timeline when it was in the crosshair's. You don't increase spending if your going to axe something. Just because you say, "I can assure you" means diddly squat. It's a completely irrational position you've taken with no facts, but your word and a Star Ledger headline which was proven false. O and I write in the English language.

I said "I'm speaking the wrong language", not you. Did u read what I posted or do you immediately get red and lash out?

Nah dude - the Ledger is crap, we agree on that. You can choose to believe what you want - it's all good. Ignorance is bliss as they say, however.

I have friends that work there, and it's not a secret that the athletic department was operating at a serious deficit - primarily due to football - something like $20m in the hole, with another $10m in loans. Numbers are irrelevant, but the faculty wasn't happy it continued unabated. As a side note, this is what happened at Eastern Michigan FWIW.

Now you don't really believe Pernetti woke up in 2012 and decide he wanted to get Rutgers into the B10? Being a football guy, that was on his mind from DAY ONE when he was hired. You know conferences have requirments and given the B10s significant wrestling profile, there was no way Pernetti was going to let Rutgers cancel the program.

The point of this isn't to make you think what I think - it's to demonstrate how quickly things can change and how close Rutgers was to killing the program. If the B10 and associated profile / revenue weren't on the horizon, I'm of the opinion wrestling was in trouble. I can't prove that - but when athletic departments are running at deficits, it seems like many schools look at sports like wrestling (which is why it's dying).

Lock Haven, Clarion, and Edinboro have seen significant drops in enrollment:

http://www.lockhaven.com/news/local-news/2017/01/universities-face-tough-choices/

Not sure how long you've been following wrestling, but these were big time wrestling programs at one point. Comment was made on another forum that since Bruce Baumgartner is AD at Edinboro, that's keeping them at the D1 level. Schools like PSU and Pitt are drawing more students in, to the detriment of the smaller schools like Lock Haven. I posted above that Coach Moore has to fundraise to pay the scholarships for his wrestlers - that's insane.

I'm sure Penn State doesn't give a rat's ass, but when there aren't any schools wrestling - will anyone?

 

[rdefabri]

TOTAL BS!!!!!

I know - I'm a complete idiot, why did I say that? It's clear I don't know anything, maybe I should just go back to the Rider or Seton Hall forums, right?

I'm 100% positive Rutgers will have a wrestling program for what, the next 200-300 years? NO doubt, the sport has stabilized and poised for growth - by 2020 there should be 5,000 programs with new colleges popping up everywhere. What was I thinking?

Confirmation bias is strong here. The very parochialism I'm talking about that is killing the sport is evident in the responses to my posts. Pretty sure few thought the Olympics would eliminate wrestling. I know I was shocked by it - and yet it happened.

 

[bigmatt718]

[QUOTE="rdefabri, post: 3237756, member: 52474"]I know - I'm a complete idiot, why did I say that? It's clear I don't know anything, maybe I should just go back to the Rider or Seton Hall forums, right [/QUOTE]

I think you'd do everyone a favor here if you did. No one here cares what you have to say.

 

[pawrestlersintn]

Where did your research come from? Because it sounds like you just plagiarized the Star Ledger verbatim. You serious can't be this obtuse, the sport was destined for the chopping block back in 2006, Pernetti didn't become AD until 2009 talks for B1G entrance started at the end of 2011. Entrance was announced in 2012. One of the 1st things Pernetti did was increase scholarship money for the sport.

So I fail to see the timeline when it was in the crosshair's. You don't increase spending if your going to axe something. Just because you say, "I can assure you" means diddly squat. It's a completely irrational position you've taken with no facts, but your word and a Star Ledger headline which was proven false. O and I write in the English language.

You don't actually think a school decides they want in the Big Ten, and get accepted in less than a year, do you?

 

[Ole Cabbagehead]

I enjoy the argument, and he is not wrong on his overall point, I just don't think a Rutgers-Rider dual has anything to do with it.

I do appreciate overall what he is saying, which is that by having these rivalries, it creates a tickle down effect that gets more people interested, and therefore boosts participation. However, part of it is also just demographics. For example, the NHL moving to Atlanta did not increase hockey particpation in the Atlanta metro, it just failed because you were supplying a product for which there was no demand.

As to the Rutgers points, the timeline is a bit off and it is just not accurate as to what happened. Pernetti absolutely favored wrestling, as did Julie. Pernetti liked it because he thought that it would help us further align with Big Ten, and both of them liked it because it was starting to sell meaningul amounts of tickets, and actually had a path to supporting itself.

At that point, the sport had already been "saved" at Rutgers, and credit Goodale getting fan interest to a point where Pernetti and Julie, both confronted with budget shortfalls, saw increased support as a value add.

Now of course, if we dont do things the right way, fan interest could wane, and we could find ourselves back where we were. That can always happen. But with the strength of the sport in NJ, and the strength of the Big Ten in the sport (and the general amount of money being thrown off by the Big Ten conference, that is very unlikely.

 

[koleszar]

You don't actually think a school decides they want in the Big Ten, and get accepted in less than a year, do you?

OK, I should have put in "negotiations" instead of "talks for B1G entrance". I thought that was pretty self evident and required a low level of reading comprehension. But let me explain, I'll even bold face the words to make it easier for you and rdefabri. "Talks for B1G entrance" was meant to mean, when Rutgers and Delany on behalf of the B1G Universities began talking about Rutgers entrance into the B1G. OK or should I explain it in a more simplistic manner?

 

[pawrestlersintn]

OK, I should have put in negotiations instead of "talks for B1G entrance". I thought that was pretty self evident and required a low level of reading comprehension.

What is it with you guys writing one thing, then when you get called out on it, you get defensive and go ad hom? You're right, you should learn to write more clearly. Bottom line is the B1G expansion study started in 2009, and Rutgers was in that discussion from the start.

 

[koleszar]

What is it with you guys writing one thing, then when you get called out on it, you get defensive and go ad hom? You're right, you should learn to write more clearly. Bottom line is the B1G expansion study started in 2009, and Rutgers was in that discussion from the start.

I really didn't think my sentence could possibly be misconstrued the way you two did. Especially with the timeline I set. I mean "talks for B1G entrance started at the end of 2011. Entrance was announced in 2012." This would indicate to me that a negotiation process was started at the end of 2011.

 

[koleszar]

I said "I'm speaking the wrong language", not you. Did u read what I posted or do you immediately get red and lash out?

You used the sentence as metaphorical dig. I know I use it almost everyday on my workers. Don't try to treat me like an idiot.

 

[pawrestlersintn]

OK, I should have put in "negotiations" instead of "talks for B1G entrance". I thought that was pretty self evident and required a low level of reading comprehension. But let me explain, I'll even bold face the words to make it easier for you and rdefabri. "Talks for B1G entrance" was meant to mean, when Rutgers and Delany on behalf of the B1G Universities began talking about Rutgers entrance into the B1G. OK or should I explain it in a more simplistic manner?

OMFG, so simplistic minds were supposed to read all of the non-highlighted words into your message? Okaaay.

However, there's this thing called Google that allows you to search all kinds of information. It's great, you should try it.

The Big Ten initiated a study in 2009 to determine what schools it should consider for expansion. In late February/early March 2010, parts of the study, done by William Blair and Co., a Chicago investment firm, were leaked to the media, and they indicated that the teams that the Big Ten should target for expansion should be Rutgers, Pitt, Missouri, Syracuse and Notre Dame. Notre Dame was last on the list, because they turned the B1G down in 1999, and some were still butthurt over it.

Do you really not give your Rutgers leadership enough credit to think that as soon as they heard they were on that list, they didn't start selling themselves and talking to the Big Ten? And, that they started laying the foundation for membership, if it was offered?

No, you're probably right, Delany probably just waves his magic wand and stuff magically appears overnight. :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

 

[rdefabri]

I enjoy the argument, and he is not wrong on his overall point, I just don't think a Rutgers-Rider dual has anything to do with it.

I do appreciate overall what he is saying, which is that by having these rivalries, it creates a tickle down effect that gets more people interested, and therefore boosts participation. However, part of it is also just demographics. For example, the NHL moving to Atlanta did not increase hockey particpation in the Atlanta metro, it just failed because you were supplying a product for which there was no demand.

As to the Rutgers points, the timeline is a bit off and it is just not accurate as to what happened. Pernetti absolutely favored wrestling, as did Julie. Pernetti liked it because he thought that it would help us further align with Big Ten, and both of them liked it because it was starting to sell meaningul amounts of tickets, and actually had a path to supporting itself.

At that point, the sport had already been "saved" at Rutgers, and credit Goodale getting fan interest to a point where Pernetti and Julie, both confronted with budget shortfalls, saw increased support as a value add.

Now of course, if we dont do things the right way, fan interest could wane, and we could find ourselves back where we were. That can always happen. But with the strength of the sport in NJ, and the strength of the Big Ten in the sport (and the general amount of money being thrown off by the Big Ten conference, that is very unlikely.

Yup - well said. And while I know Pernetti favored wrestling, given all that has transpired SINCE, had Rutgers not been admitted to the B10, wrestling would likely have not survived.

Water under the bridge - it was saved. It just serves as a reminder this sport is under attack, and there is no room for schools not helping other schools.

So I'll issue a general comment - someone tell me why Rutgers NOT wrestling Rider is GOOD for the sport and for the school?

Also, enlighten me as to WHY Rutgers doesn't want to wrestle Rider?

 

[rdefabri]

[QUOTE="rdefabri, post: 3237756, member: 52474"]I know - I'm a complete idiot, why did I say that? It's clear I don't know anything, maybe I should just go back to the Rider or Seton Hall forums, right [/QUOTE]

I think you'd do everyone a favor here if you did. No one here cares what you have to say.

Hey - my kid may go to Rutgers. Since I'm a supporter of multiple wrestling programs / schools, I'm sure the SKWC would love to hear that a possible donor decided not to because the board denizens acted like you do.

What was it I said about parochialism and this sport?

 

[R U Crazy]

We need a separate thread for RU Banter and one for the wrestling lineup.
I see new posts and i look in thread hoping to hear some information and all i get is Banter.

 

[rdefabri]

You used the sentence as metaphorical dig. I know I use it almost everyday on my workers. Don't try to treat me like an idiot.

No, I'm the idiot - we established that. Interesting you use it as a metaphorical dig to your workers, then basically tell me not to.

 

[koleszar]

Do you really not give your Rutgers leadership enough credit to think that as soon as they heard they were on that list, they didn't start selling themselves and talking to the Big Ten? And, that they started laying the foundation for membership, if it was offered?

pa, I really don't think you know our President or BOG very well.[laughing] Here's what transpired Brachi(president.) assumed office in April 2012. He demanded an aggressive plan for reduction of athletic subsidies. Nov. 2012 announcement of B1G entrance. Barchi does not relent on mandate of reduction of subsidy. Then coaching and AD debacles occured.

During this entire ramp up period into the B1G not one single infrastructure improvement occurred. Spending decreased over this time period instead of increasing. That's how RU's President and BOG geared up for B1G entrance. So you can see how it would be difficult to give the current Rutgers leadership any credit for the move to the B1G. I think we got in do to RU's location and cable boxes. Leadership simply picked up a phone. Mulcahy was the man with the vision and they fired him.

 

[koleszar]

No, I'm the idiot - we established that. Interesting you use it as a metaphorical dig to your workers, then basically tell me not to.

I figured you were smarter than my guys. They can do some pretty stupid sh*t from time to time. They may not be Mensa award winners but they're good guys.

 

[rdefabri]

I really didn't think my sentence could possibly be misconstrued the way you two did. Especially with the timeline I set. I mean "talks for B1G entrance started at the end of 2011. Entrance was announced in 2012." This would indicate to me that a negotiation process was started at the end of 2011.

Ok - it was started earlier than that in terms of the process. However, Pernetti had B10 on his radar screen from the moment he was hired.

 

[koleszar]

We need a separate thread for RU Banter and one for the wrestling lineup.
I see new posts and i look in thread hoping to hear some information and all i get is Banter.

Sorry for the banter. But I have a foot of snow outside, did my digging out by 8 am now I'm bored as hell because I can't work. @rdefabri and @pawrestlersintn are fun to banter with, it's not degrading into all out name calling. Like it usually does.

 

[bigmatt718]

Hey - my kid may go to Rutgers. Since I'm a supporter of multiple wrestling programs / schools, I'm sure the SKWC would love to hear that a possible donor decided not to because the board denizens acted like you do.

What was it I said about parochialism and this sport?

BS. You're kid is going to that glorified community college in Lawrenceville, Rider if anywhere. You've established that. Again, why are you here? To troll the board? To me it sounds like you are and if so, you won't be around for long.

 

[rdefabri]

BS. You're kid is going to that glorified community college in Lawrenceville, Rider if anywhere. You've established that. Again, why are you here? To troll the board? To me it sounds like you are and if so, you won't be around for long.

Wow you can read the future too? Amazing.

 

[obrats]

[QUOTE="rdefabri, post: 3237756, member: 52474"]I know - I'm a complete idiot, why did I say that? It's clear I don't know anything, maybe I should just go back to the Rider or Seton Hall forums, right [/QUOTE]

I think you'd do everyone a favor here if you did. No one here cares what you have to say.

I think he has a lot of good things to say, its a shame people don't want to listen.