A Pathetic Performance For The Ages

[Plum Street]

That is how Senior Day 2022 will be remembered . This is an all-time classic comedy of errors . Pathetic and embarrassing performance for a program that never misses an opportunity to disappoint.
This is a low point and that is saying something. This goes down as one of the all time Pathetic performances. No excuses for what happened out there

 

[batts]

Not helpful!

 

[billhilf]

I have to agree. It’s hard to argue that schiano will ever be the guy to turn this around. And I’m not saying he will be fired, because I know they are pretty trapped with him. You pretty much know after 3 years if there’s any signs of progress, and not only are there no signs, they are actually getting much worse.

 

[superfan01]

Plum - We all wanted Greg. Do you think Greg can still get it done here or is he toast?

 

[Plum Street]

Plum - We all wanted Greg. Do you think Greg can still get it done here or is he toast?

Yes , I wanted greg . Three years ago I would have told you Greg would turn this around . Today, I will tell you I hope Greg can turn it around.

 

[Plum Street]

Plum - We all wanted Greg. Do you think Greg can still get it done here or is he toast?

And even if he’s not gonna get it done . There is no excuse for what went down today . Pathetic

 

[76Scarlet]

Sadly again……..not surprising. Another blowout loss. Eventually sooner rather than later we simply have to show we belong on the same field as these guys. I don’t even care anymore about the win loss record.

 

[RutgersSam]

Plum - We all wanted Greg. Do you think Greg can still get it done here or is he toast?

Some of us knew he was mediocre at best, and that it was a bad hire. We actually analyzed his career performance in totaliity instead of holding on to a few nice wins over a decade ago. Losing comes in perpetuity with Greg.

 

[Scarlet_Monster]

If Greg says complementary football in the presser it will just be a death knell that he will never adjust his outlook on anything.

 

[RU Cheese]

Sadly again……..not surprising. Another blowout loss. Eventually sooner rather than later we simply have to show we belong on the same field as these guys. I don’t even care anymore about the win loss record.

Great post. They don't look like they even belong on the field or are in the same league most nights. It's embarassing. Wins and Losses matter, but you watch them play and it's a joke.

 

[RU Cheese]

If Greg says complementary football in the presser it will just be a death knell that he will never adjust his outlook on anything.

I know people will crap on me, but I don't think he has any idea what he's doing. I think he's in over his head and has close to zero agility / flexibility as a person and refuses to change.

 

[RutgersRaRa]

Greg was the right guy to hold the fan base together, but with NIL and his total lack of offensive player development he's probably not the guy to keep the team together. Not sure anyone can, but at least the fan base stayed engaged through COVID and into this season. Absent some new circumstance, next year might be a ghost town around here.

 

[billhilf]

I know people will crap on me, but I don't think he has any idea what he's doing. I think he's in over his head and has close to zero agility / flexibility as a person and refuses to change.

Spot on.

 

[bac2therac]

It was an embarrassment

 

[RutgersRaRa]

I know people will crap on me, but I don't think he has any idea what he's doing. I think he's in over his head and has close to zero agility / flexibility as a person and refuses to change.

He knows what he's doing with a defense, but at this point even special teams, which used to be his specialty, are a total disaster, and a bigger issue is a total lack of offensive productivity and player development.

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

Rutgers just doesn’t have many good players

 

[RutgersRaRa]

Rutgers just doesn’t have many good players

The problem with that view, which had been mine for a while, is that there is some correlation between coaching and players that don't play well. None of the three QBs on our roster, ranging from a six-year guy down to a second-year freshman, can read a defense, see the field, or hit an open receiver. At some point the coaches' approaches have to be considered as part of the problem.

 

[scarletrat]

in this era of offense, we remain offensive…almost a decade strong. It’s mind boggling we can’t even field an average offense. Our offense fails our D each game. Need to score 24-30 per game to be competitive.

I was fine with GS returning as I didn’t have confidence Hobbs could bring the right coach in, but in year 3 we lose at home by 45, in a comedy of errors. Facing 1-7 in league play.

Worst of all, what hope is there on offense right now. No young emerging talent other than Brown at skill position. Need a QB who can hit 50% of throws—not asking for much. Wimsatt not able or willing to run is useless.

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

Watching South Carolina easily score against a top team like Tennessee

It’s unreal how Rutgers just can’t compete vs good teams

 

[RUJMM78]

Rutgers just doesn’t have many good players

I would not be surprised that Lewis transfers because he has NFL talent at defensive end and can enhance his draft status by playing for a winning team.The quarterback position shows very little improvement along with the offensive line.Recruiting is mediocre and player development at most positions shows very little improvement.

 

[sct1111]

Rutgers just doesn’t have many good players

They have a handful of good players on defense. The only all conference level player on offense is our injured freshman RB. Nobody else is even close on offense.

 

[fluoxetine]

Watching South Carolina easily score against a top team like Tennessee

It’s unreal how Rutgers just can’t compete vs good teams

To be fair, Tennessee is not an elite defensive team. Penn State is significantly better on defense.

 

[Scarlet Blind]

Here's a good thread to bring back on how my opinion stood 3 years ago bringing back Schiano 2.0. I don't always make perfect sense and didn't suggest who they should have hired for $4 million a year but knew we could have done better. Not sure who was out there 3 years ago, who was hired after him and how they have done the last 3 years.

Post in thread 'Schiano was -500 in 11 Years as Head Coach in a weak Conference (Zero Titles)' https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...ak-conference-zero-titles.180960/post-4189758

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

To be fair, Tennessee is not an elite defensive team. Penn State is significantly better on defense.

Def . But Rutgers should be more competitive than they are this season

 

[rufeelinit]

I would not be surprised that Lewis transfers because he has NFL talent at defensive end and can enhance his draft status by playing for a winning team.The quarterback position shows very little improvement along with the offensive line.Recruiting is mediocre and player development at most positions shows very little improvement.

I am concerned about retaining #71 as well. The kid is going to have offers elsewhere.

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

I am concerned about retaining #71 as well. The kid is going to have offers elsewhere.

NIL could keep him here.

 

[Extra Point]

Non of us will remember today when RU starts winning next year.

 

[Plum Street]

Non of us will remember today when RU starts winning next year.

Probably true. Except for the seniors that were honored with this

 

[MADHAT1]

2001	Rutgers	2–9	0–7	8th
2002	Rutgers	1–11	0–7	8th
2003	Rutgers	5–7	2–5	7th
2004	Rutgers	4–7	1–5	6th
2005	Rutgers	7–5	4–3	3rd	L Insight

 

[shields]

Maryland did not score last week vs Penn State. Granted this week maryland did score. I knew game was going to be very hard to win,

 

[Anteid]

I would not be surprised that Lewis transfers because he has NFL talent at defensive end and can enhance his draft status by playing for a winning team.The quarterback position shows very little improvement along with the offensive line.Recruiting is mediocre and player development at most positions shows very little improvement.

Not true at all , the problem we all know is the offensive coordinator position and if you fire your offensive coordinator in the first half of the season then it’s going to be tough to win. Speed speed speed and more speed , Maryland managed to hang 30 points on the buckeyes cause they have speed and a quarterback who is experienced. We don’t have enough speed on offense and we just look to slow when the ball is handed off or passed through the air . Greg can fix these issues if he gets some players who are already seasoned to help while is younger players are developing.

 

[RUChoppin]

2001	Rutgers	2–9	0–7	8th
2002	Rutgers	1–11	0–7	8th
2003	Rutgers	5–7	2–5	7th
2004	Rutgers	4–7	1–5	6th
2005	Rutgers	7–5	4–3	3rd	L Insight

Yes. But we can't expect the Big Ten to fall apart like the Big East did during that span.

 

[jtung230]

Stop being embarrassed and donate. Use NIL to get players. Otherwise just stfu.

 

[RutgersSam]

Spot on.

In essence what I've been saying in a million different ways for over a year

 

[letitrip2]

2001	Rutgers	2–9	0–7	8th
2002	Rutgers	1–11	0–7	8th
2003	Rutgers	5–7	2–5	7th
2004	Rutgers	4–7	1–5	6th
2005	Rutgers	7–5	4–3	3rd	L Insight

This is an important reminder about how RU teams did during Greg 1.0. I went to every one of those games and one thing those records do not reflect is that even though we were losing you could feel the improvement each year. Unfortunately I do not feel that yet with Greg 2.0. That need to change real quick.

 

[Joey Bacala]

Great post. They don't look like they even belong on the field or are in the same league most nights. It's embarassing. Wins and Losses matter, but you watch them play and it's a joke.

Exactly. When the other “lower tier” teams play top teams they keep the score respectable. When we play the top teams the score 50+ and we score <=10

 

[jtung230]

Exactly. When the other “lower tier” teams play top teams they keep the score respectable. When we play the top teams the score 50+ and we score <=10

Love it. Now all the GS haters want moral victories.

 

[sct1111]

This is an important reminder about how RU teams did during Greg 1.0. I went to every one of those games and one thing those records do not reflect is that even though we were losing you could feel the improvement each year. Unfortunately I do not feel that yet with Greg 2.0. That need to change real quick.

What usually happens during successful rebuilds is the less talented roster you inherit stops making bad mistakes and begins to execute at higher levels. The coach puts the players in the right positions to make plays. This allows you to pick up wins over more talented teams.

Eventually you start recruiting better and these new players already see a successful culture in place.

I thought this was happening the first year during the covid year. But then this year has been plagues with unbelievable amount of penalties.

 

[RUChoppin]

This is an important reminder about how RU teams did during Greg 1.0. I went to every one of those games and one thing those records do not reflect is that even though we were losing you could feel the improvement each year. Unfortunately I do not feel that yet with Greg 2.0. That need to change real quick.

The competition level also changed through those years.
2002 - Five 9+ win teams (#2 Miami, #18 VTech, #19 WVU, #25 WVU, BC)
2003 - Five 8+ win teams (#5 Miami only ranked team with more than 8 wins)
2004 - Miami and VTech depart. Four 8+ win teams (#21 BC only team with more than 8, #25 Pitt)
2005 - BC departs. Pitt and Cuse make bad hires, the latter of which results in Ray Rice/Courtney Greene committing to RU. Only two 8+ win teams (#5 WVU, #19 Louisville)

Schiano got the program to the point where it could capitalize on those changes, but he also benefited greatly from things that were beyond his control.

 

[jtung230]

The competition level also changed through those years.
2002 - Five 9+ win teams (#2 Miami, #18 VTech, #19 WVU, #25 WVU, BC)
2003 - Five 8+ win teams (#5 Miami only ranked team with more than 8 wins)
2004 - Miami and VTech depart. Four 8+ win teams (#21 BC only team with more than 8, #25 Pitt)
2005 - BC departs. Pitt and Cuse make bad hires, the latter of which results in Ray Rice/Courtney Greene committing to RU. Only two 8+ win teams (#5 WVU, #19 Louisville)

Schiano got the program to the point where it could capitalize on those changes, but he also benefited greatly from things that were beyond his control.

Yeah, nm all the nfl players he produced. Must be what you said.