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Don't know if someone has posted this here yet, but it seems Golden has followed a bunch of different RU recruits on twitter including, Russo, Hayes, Mack, Krimin, etc. Followed a bunch of NJ guys too like Gary/Walker... I know you some of you don't read much into this kind of stuff, but could be something?

https://twitter.com/GoldenAl/following
 
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I think you're misunderstanding me. I'm saying that him saying that exponentially increases the likelihood that Golden is our next coach.

LOL - sorry - no, I didn't misunderstand you buddy, all good, I'm just making fun of Not-so-damus.
 
He also following the Depaul player that committed to Penn State, must want to convert him.

I guess Cristobal and Golden are interviewing and candidates.
 
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I guess Cristobal and Golden are interviewing and candidates.

100% agree. I was wondering if Cristobal was only following offensive players to see if there are recruiting opportunities but he's following both sides of the ball. The follows are all recent, especially Golden's. Any many of the recruits are following them back (again especially with Golden). Safe to say they are both in contact with Rutgers.
 
Don't know if someone has posted this here yet, but it seems Golden has followed a bunch of different RU recruits on twitter including, Russo, Hayes, Mack, Krimin, etc. Followed a bunch of NJ guys too like Gary/Walker... I know you some of you don't read much into this kind of stuff, but could be something?

https://twitter.com/GoldenAl/following
God I hope not. This guy had terrible things to say about RU and NJ and now we want him as our coach?
 
Alternative hypothesis: These guys are likely to be HCs somewhere, and we are currently a program in transition. No matter where they land, but might be interested in poaching our kids.

Possible, but Golden just started following Jonathan Pollock last night, who already signed his financial aid paperwork and is enrolling for classes at RU next month.
 
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Don't know if someone has posted this here yet, but it seems Golden has followed a bunch of different RU recruits on twitter including, Russo, Hayes, Mack, Krimin, etc. Followed a bunch of NJ guys too like Gary/Walker... I know you some of you don't read much into this kind of stuff, but could be something?

https://twitter.com/GoldenAl/following
''oh baby thats a what i like''.....The Big Bopper speaking in Chantilly Lace...proof he's on the radar.
 
God I hope not. This guy had terrible things to say about RU and NJ and now we want him as our coach?
Thats my problem with him and his PSU roots...though he is a Jersey guy..typical self loather IMO..But in the pinch..we do nutty things like him hoping to hook on with us....better than he go to Cuse but doubt he's that dumb.
 
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God I hope not. This guy had terrible things to say about RU and NJ and now we want him as our coach?

The only thing worse than Golden coming here as our head coach would be Golden coming here as our head coach and bringing D'Onofrio with him.
Christ I miss Flood and Rossi already.
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God I hope not. This guy had terrible things to say about RU and NJ and now we want him as our coach?
He could've bought us flowers and candy every day for the last decade and I'd still not want him as the coach. Golden would be a golden shower for RU fans. Thanks, but no thanks.
 
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Could be something a coach would use as part of the interview process and how he would maintain recruiting class. He has taken the preemptive step to reach out to the recruits.
 
Does anyone know Golden's Coaching skills? He's a Penn Stater that even Penn St. passed on when they went with Franklin. Was that due to Paterno ties or statement of his coaching skills?
 
Does anyone know Golden's Coaching skills? He's a Penn Stater that even Penn St. passed on when they went with Franklin. Was that due to Paterno ties or statement of his coaching skills?

He was a bust at The U.......with all of the advantages that come with THAT.
That tells you all you need to know about his skills.
 
Just looking at his record at Miami. Wow! Disappointing. 2013 was his best season with a 9-3 mark and then gets blown out of the RA Bowl by Louisville. Otherwise, he's well at about .500 each year and I know he's recruited real well in a hotbed of talent. Just don't understand this.
 
He was a bust at The U.......with all of the advantages that come with THAT.
That tells you all you need to know about his skills.
That's one way to look at it. Another would be to say he was a big success at Temple ... with all the disadvantages that came with that. Maybe that says a lot about his skills.

The bottom line is that not enough people pay enough attention to the context in which successes and failures happen. Golden was a terrible fit for Miami. And even though he was able to attract talent there, kids who are drawn to Miami are looking for an experience that is a 180 from the environment Golden looks to cultivate. His approach is much more Midwestern/Northeast which would actually make him a fish in familiar waters at, say ... Rutgers.

There's no way to look at what he did at Temple and say he isn't a skilled coach. What he inherited there made pre-Schiano Rutgers look like Notre Dame. And he made them a winner. So, if nothing else, he's a good program builder, talented when it comes to extinguishing dumpster fires or instilling life into moribund programs.

Another study in context might be Mark Richt. Here is a guy who was given the keys to a program with more built-in advantages than just about any in the country, and hadn't won a blessed thing in the past 10 years. Do you realize how many coaches could've done a better job there than Mark Richt? But people think because he operated in a situation where he had everything at his disposal that he did a great job. He petty much did what any reasonably talented coach would've done. Because that's what he is: reasonable talented. But while he was holding serve, the Nick Sabans and Mark Dantonios were reinvigorating marquee programs that has flattened out (like Georgia) and making them top teams again. Dantonio not as much as Saban, but Michigan State is not Alabama, so it's all relative. It's tough to understand the fascination with Richt.
 
That's one way to look at it. Another would be to say he was a big success at Temple ... with all the disadvantages that came with that. Maybe that says a lot about his skills.

The bottom line is that not enough people pay enough attention to the context in which successes and failures happen. Golden was a terrible fit for Miami. And even though he was able to attract talent there, kids who are drawn to Miami are looking for an experience that is a 180 from the environment Golden looks to cultivate. His approach is much more Midwestern/Northeast which would actually make him a fish in familiar waters at, say ... Rutgers.

There's no way to look at what he did at Temple and say he isn't a skilled coach. What he inherited there made pre-Schiano Rutgers look like Notre Dame. And he made them a winner. So, if nothing else, he's a good program builder, talented when it comes to extinguishing dumpster fires or instilling life into moribund programs.

Another study in context might be Mark Richt. Here is a guy who was given the keys to a program with more built-in advantages than just about any in the country, and hadn't won a blessed thing in the past 10 years. Do you realize how many coaches could've done a better job there than Mark Richt? But people think because he operated in a situation where he had everything at his disposal that he did a great job. He petty much did what any reasonably talented coach would've done. Because that's what he is: reasonable talented. But while he was holding serve, the Nick Sabans and Mark Dantonios were reinvigorating marquee programs that has flattened out (like Georgia) and making them top teams again. Dantonio not as much as Saban, but Michigan State is not Alabama, so it's all relative. It's tough to understand the fascination with Richt.
You could be right about Richt. But if you're already making excuses for Golden, then he's not the guy for the RU head-coaching context.

Babers for the win.
 
Does anyone know Golden's Coaching skills? He's a Penn Stater that even Penn St. passed on when they went with Franklin. Was that due to Paterno ties or statement of his coaching skills?
Miami fans say he's a great recruiter and lousy coach. That's why they fired him. Had top 10 talent and couldn't win the ACC..
 
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That's one way to look at it. Another would be to say he was a big success at Temple ... with all the disadvantages that came with that. Maybe that says a lot about his skills.

The bottom line is that not enough people pay enough attention to the context in which successes and failures happen. Golden was a terrible fit for Miami. And even though he was able to attract talent there, kids who are drawn to Miami are looking for an experience that is a 180 from the environment Golden looks to cultivate. His approach is much more Midwestern/Northeast which would actually make him a fish in familiar waters at, say ... Rutgers.

There's no way to look at what he did at Temple and say he isn't a skilled coach. What he inherited there made pre-Schiano Rutgers look like Notre Dame. And he made them a winner. So, if nothing else, he's a good program builder, talented when it comes to extinguishing dumpster fires or instilling life into moribund programs.

Another study in context might be Mark Richt. Here is a guy who was given the keys to a program with more built-in advantages than just about any in the country, and hadn't won a blessed thing in the past 10 years. Do you realize how many coaches could've done a better job there than Mark Richt? But people think because he operated in a situation where he had everything at his disposal that he did a great job. He petty much did what any reasonably talented coach would've done. Because that's what he is: reasonable talented. But while he was holding serve, the Nick Sabans and Mark Dantonios were reinvigorating marquee programs that has flattened out (like Georgia) and making them top teams again. Dantonio not as much as Saban, but Michigan State is not Alabama, so it's all relative. It's tough to understand the fascination with Richt.
Thats exactly the way I read it....great recruiter...solid HC...on Al Golden..his RU attitude concerns me though.
 
Well how the heck did make Temple respectable....not on 4 star talent i'm sure.

At the the lower levels of football, opponents have more weaknesses you can exploit, especially size/speed/strength wise.

As the quality of the opponent improves, the harder it gets to gain a match-up advantage.

That power running attack that could bludgeon opponents in the Big East goes nowhere against the FSU 5-star defensive front 7.

That mobile QB who could outrun the slow/undersized 2-star LBs to the edge is now being brought down in the backfield by the 230 4.5/40 first-rounder.

Al Golden ran a pretty vanilla scheme on both sides of the ball.

He was in the middle of changing his philosophies when he got canned.
 
I think you're misunderstanding me. I'm saying that him saying that exponentially increases the likelihood that Golden is our next coach.

I would not say exponentially. It is easy enough to do, just in case you get the job.
 
That's one way to look at it. Another would be to say he was a big success at Temple ... with all the disadvantages that came with that. Maybe that says a lot about his skills.

The bottom line is that not enough people pay enough attention to the context in which successes and failures happen. Golden was a terrible fit for Miami. And even though he was able to attract talent there, kids who are drawn to Miami are looking for an experience that is a 180 from the environment Golden looks to cultivate. His approach is much more Midwestern/Northeast which would actually make him a fish in familiar waters at, say ... Rutgers.

There's no way to look at what he did at Temple and say he isn't a skilled coach. What he inherited there made pre-Schiano Rutgers look like Notre Dame. And he made them a winner. So, if nothing else, he's a good program builder, talented when it comes to extinguishing dumpster fires or instilling life into moribund programs.

Another study in context might be Mark Richt. Here is a guy who was given the keys to a program with more built-in advantages than just about any in the country, and hadn't won a blessed thing in the past 10 years. Do you realize how many coaches could've done a better job there than Mark Richt? But people think because he operated in a situation where he had everything at his disposal that he did a great job. He petty much did what any reasonably talented coach would've done. Because that's what he is: reasonable talented. But while he was holding serve, the Nick Sabans and Mark Dantonios were reinvigorating marquee programs that has flattened out (like Georgia) and making them top teams again. Dantonio not as much as Saban, but Michigan State is not Alabama, so it's all relative. It's tough to understand the fascination with Richt.
he turned around temple because temple moved to the mac conference. temple did not win a mac championship
 
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