Another Possible Reason Our Passing Game Was So Bad

[NickRU714]

This is also on the coaching staff.
There are ways to scheme WR's open or at least give them an advantage to get open.

Pre-snap movement: WR should be moving on every down to make the defense move and adjust. Not just stand still and be ready.
Tempo: don't let the defense get set and line up their defense. Keep them off balance by moving faster. Force them into making decisions faster.
Formation: WR stack, unbalanced formation and exploit the weak side.

At least make an attempt to confuse the defense.
We don't have the talent to just line up straight across the line and beat most teams.

 

[retired711]

Our wide receivers were really bad at creating separation. Something that I don't recall being an issue. The past two years is that we had open receivers but Noah couldn't get the ball to them. Not many people have mentioned it but we probably miss Tiquan Underwood more than we realize. In addition to his coaching he was a positive on the recruiting trail and had a great presence with the kids.
NJ guy, former RU player, just seems like a natural for us. Was there ever a reason given why he left??

You follow the program more closely than I do, but my impression is that for a long time we've had receivers who had difficulty creating separation. Perhaps it's a matter of coaching; perhaps it's also a matter of talent.

 

[RUBOB72]

What Greg Schiano always does mediate the situation. Tiquan someday hopefully will return to the fold.

 

[kupuna133]

This is also on the coaching staff.
There are ways to scheme WR's open or at least give them an advantage to get open.

Pre-snap movement: WR should be moving on every down to make the defense move and adjust. Not just stand still and be ready.
Tempo: don't let the defense get set and line up their defense. Keep them off balance by moving faster. Force them into making decisions faster.
Formation: WR stack, unbalanced formation and exploit the weak side.

At least make an attempt to confuse the defense.
We don't have the talent to just line up straight across the line and beat most teams.

Absolutely. Agree the staff can do more, by adjusting Tempo, changing formation, attacking weaknesses but it is even more basic. Separation doesn't always equate to lack of speed or athleticism. Some of the best receivers over the years are not always the athletic freak with blazing speed. It is a guy that knows how to alternate speeds, to change direction, to get out of cuts clean, to use the defenders leverage against them. It comes down to basic fundamentals and technique. The simpler the route the better. In any sport you cross the defenders face you have the advantage. The routes being run very rarely cross their defenders face. They run lazy fade routes or cut behind the defender.

 

[retired711]

Absolutely. Agree the staff can do more, by adjusting Tempo, changing formation, attacking weaknesses but it is even more basic. Separation doesn't always equate to lack of speed or athleticism. Some of the best receivers over the years are not always the athletic freak with blazing speed. It is a guy that knows how to alternate speeds, to change direction, to get out of cuts clean, to use the defenders leverage against them. It comes down to basic fundamentals and technique. The simpler the route the better. In any sport you cross the defenders face you have the advantage. The routes being run very rarely cross their defenders face. They run lazy fade routes or cut behind the defender.

Wouldn't the kind of routes you suggest also be easier for a QB to throw? After all, there would no defender between the QB and the receiver.

 

[kupuna133]

Wouldn't the kind of routes you suggest also be easier for a QB to throw? After all, there would no defender between the QB and the receiver.

Easier for everyone. QB WR and OL. It’s still predicated on the WR beating their defender. But simpler routes run correctly beat complicated routes every time. Most rpo/spread/run and shoot offenses have very simple routes that are run to maximize efficiency. The most difficult route to throw is that 10-20 yard fade route-out. And that seems to be our primary route. I beg for a simple te drag, waggle, dump, a wr hitch route a simple slant.

 

[rutgersguy1]

This is also on the coaching staff.
There are ways to scheme WR's open or at least give them an advantage to get open.

Pre-snap movement: WR should be moving on every down to make the defense move and adjust. Not just stand still and be ready.
Tempo: don't let the defense get set and line up their defense. Keep them off balance by moving faster. Force them into making decisions faster.
Formation: WR stack, unbalanced formation and exploit the weak side.

At least make an attempt to confuse the defense.
We don't have the talent to just line up straight across the line and beat most teams.

I like this channel for good info on breaking down schemes. I’ve posted another video before on Heupel/Briles offense and this one is specifically how they tried to get Hyatt open in the Alabama game.

 

[Knight Shift]

"This year, Pitt is ranked 10/14 in Passing with a paltry 220.8 passing yards per game and 12 passing TDs." It's pretty funny that we use the term "paltry" to describe Pitt's 220 yds. passing per game when we averaged 159 yds. passing per game with 11 tds. this season.If Pitt's passion g game is paltry, what adjective should we use to describe our passing game?

There have been plenty of threads about Rutgers shitty offense. Weird to take a thread about Pitt and turn it around on Rutgers.

 

[RUScrew85]

What Greg Schiano always does mediate the situation. Tiquan someday hopefully will return to the fold.

Seems the only thing Greg wants out of his offense is to not turn the ball over.

 

[RU#1fan]

Our wide receivers were really bad at creating separation. Something that I don't recall being an issue. The past two years is that we had open receivers but Noah couldn't get the ball to them. Not many people have mentioned it but we probably miss Tiquan Underwood more than we realize. In addition to his coaching he was a positive on the recruiting trail and had a great presence with the kids.
NJ guy, former RU player, just seems like a natural for us. Was there ever a reason given why he left??

That and Fran Brown. Fran is now the 8th Ranked CFB Coach in Recruiting the current class. Our top Recruiting Coach for 2023 ? Marquis Watson at #245.

 

[PSU_Nut]

Underwood is sorely missed

Excellent coach

I think Pitt would disagree. Narduzzi threw him under the bus this year saying the wide receivers could not get open and didn’t know what to do.

 

[RUbacker]

I think Pitt would disagree. Narduzzi threw him under the bus this year saying the wide receivers could not get open and didn’t know what to do.

Plus he slammed RU on his way out , childish and classless. Not a good career look. Good riddance.

 

[Proud NJ Sports Fan]

I think Pitt would disagree. Narduzzi threw him under the bus this year saying the wide receivers could not get open and didn’t know what to do.

Stats say otherwise

 

[Knight Shift]

That and Fran Brown. Fran is now the 8th Ranked CFB Coach in Recruiting the current class. Our top Recruiting Coach for 2023 ? Marquis Watson at #245.

A pet rock could recruit for Georgia.