I'm also in the camp that the building is kind of exciting and I say that as a total purist when it comes to design.Originally posted by Cofifa:
I also agree the the business school may turn out to be pretty exciting. In person the skin is interesting And it will be one of those buildings that looks different at different times of the day. The true test will be how the surrounding s are integrated from a pedestrian, public space and accessibility. If it ends up having a bunch of parking around it it will be a lost opportunity.
The placement of the new dorms was all wrong . The new apartments should have been used to form a public plaza connecting RAC to bis school . Fans could have energized the plaza and retail on game nights . Now the placement of retail is isolated away from the flow of fans so it only services students when they are there. That is why Lot 8 is being conceived as a public space where students, staff, faculty and the broader community can interact ...think Harvard Square...etc
Originally posted by Cofifa:
That is why Lot 8 is being conceived as a public space where students, staff, faculty and the broader community can interact ...think Harvard Square...etc
Both of those places have a totally non-tacky giant jumbotron installed right?Originally posted by Upstream:
Originally posted by Cofifa:
That is why Lot 8 is being conceived as a public space where students, staff, faculty and the broader community can interact ...think Harvard Square...etc
Cofifa -- You have compared the development of Lot 8 to Harvard Square and Bryant Park. Those are both great public spaces. But I can't visualize how the space of Lot 8 can contain 3 mid-to-high-rise buildings, and still have enough public space available to resemble Harvard Square or Bryant Park in any way.
Well, here it is..Originally posted by Upstream:
Originally posted by Cofifa:
That is why Lot 8 is being conceived as a public space where students, staff, faculty and the broader community can interact ...think Harvard Square...etc
Cofifa -- You have compared the development of Lot 8 to Harvard Square and Bryant Park. Those are both great public spaces. But I can't visualize how the space of Lot 8 can contain 3 mid-to-high-rise buildings, and still have enough public space available to resemble Harvard Square or Bryant Park in any way.
I commented in the other thread that Lawmatt started. The essence of my post is this plan sucks.Originally posted by lawmatt78:
Well, here it is..Originally posted by Upstream:
Originally posted by Cofifa:
That is why Lot 8 is being conceived as a public space where students, staff, faculty and the broader community can interact ...think Harvard Square...etc
Cofifa -- You have compared the development of Lot 8 to Harvard Square and Bryant Park. Those are both great public spaces. But I can't visualize how the space of Lot 8 can contain 3 mid-to-high-rise buildings, and still have enough public space available to resemble Harvard Square or Bryant Park in any way.
But that's part of the reason for the design; it's NOT in the middle of RU (which historically, culturally if not geographically is College ave.) but rather on a campus with an ill-defined identity and which also afforded the opportunity to make a bold statement AND inform the architectural direction the University wanted to take on Livingston campus. Now, in 20 years, if they've conformed future building on Livingston to the aesthetic of the Business School flagship then it will be a fantastic visual statement. OTOH, if they follow Busch campus' example then Livingston will complement the architectural confusion that is Busch campus.Originally posted by RU-ROCS:
The inside looks a lot better than the outside IMHO. But I still don't get the Silicon Valley chic, modern design in the middle of RU.
Thanks for the review.Originally posted by Upstream:
I drove past the new building last week before the football game. Although I only saw the outside, I thought it was better than nice. I thought it was very impressive. This will be a successful, iconic building for this campus.
As you enter the campus from Rt 18, you drive right up to the building. There is a traffic circle at the intersection, that allows you to see the building from different angles. The exterior skin of the building is 3-dimensional reflective panels. As you drive past, you see the changes in shadows and changes in reflections of the sky and ground.
After driving under the building, you go to the new buildings with retail in front of the RAC parking lots. I can see this area being a hub of activity.
My impression of Livingston Campus is that it is being transformed to a blase mass of nondescript buildings to a very desirable suburban campus. With the improvements, Livingston Campus can rival College Ave (the historic urban campus), and Douglass/Cook (the park-like campus on the edge of town). Each of the campuses are different, and each can be excellent in their own way. Only Busch Campus now lags behind.
The one thing I didn't like about Livingston is that there was very little building signage. I would have liked to know what the different buildings were, as I drove by.
Busch has an identity - it is really the most large state school college campus of all of the campuses in its look and size (even more so than Livingston, which excluding the RAC related areas is still more of the scale of a small state school than a large one.)Originally posted by e5fdny:
Thanks for the review.Originally posted by Upstream:
I drove past the new building last week before the football game. Although I only saw the outside, I thought it was better than nice. I thought it was very impressive. This will be a successful, iconic building for this campus.
As you enter the campus from Rt 18, you drive right up to the building. There is a traffic circle at the intersection, that allows you to see the building from different angles. The exterior skin of the building is 3-dimensional reflective panels. As you drive past, you see the changes in shadows and changes in reflections of the sky and ground.
After driving under the building, you go to the new buildings with retail in front of the RAC parking lots. I can see this area being a hub of activity.
My impression of Livingston Campus is that it is being transformed to a blase mass of nondescript buildings to a very desirable suburban campus. With the improvements, Livingston Campus can rival College Ave (the historic urban campus), and Douglass/Cook (the park-like campus on the edge of town). Each of the campuses are different, and each can be excellent in their own way. Only Busch Campus now lags behind.
The one thing I didn't like about Livingston is that there was very little building signage. I would have liked to know what the different buildings were, as I drove by.
I like what you said here.
Would be interesting to see it at night. LIke I said - during the day it was actually less inspiring than I thought it looked on the pictures.Originally posted by RU-ROCS:
I hated the new business school design when I first saw it on paper and then during construction. I'm more of a brick and mortar, traditional colonial college architecture guy. But, I have to admit going to a night game at the RAC earlier this week, the new building has a striking, monolithic, uniquely modern feel to it, especially when it is lit up at night. It certainly is a statement type of building, which has grown on me. It also seems to blend well with the other new construction adjacent to the RAC.
I've accepted it - just saying - it looks cheap to me - not sure what it is - the materials I guess. As they say in Clueless, its a total Monet.Originally posted by Rutgers2020:
I've been watching this thread with some interest. While I appreciate where the negative comments are coming from, the fact is that the new business school building is a resounding success. The students, staff, and faculty love the building. People from the business world who visit are supremely impressed.
And, oh, it was recently selected the 19th most beautiful business school building IN THE WORLD.
http://business.rutgers.edu/news/rutgers-business-schools-new-building-ranked-among-50-most-beautiful-b-schools-world
Time to just accept that the building is a gem and a great point of pride for Rutgers.
How 'bout Ashridge. Damn, that looks pretty nice...Originally posted by Korbermeister:
I followed the links to the original list/pics of the Top 50 Business School Buildings; lo & behold many surpass the RBS building in daring/crazy. The Moscow building is a great expression of WTF, IMHO. Elon U Business School (north Carolina ) looks plantation perfect, France has a mansion, U of V Business School looks as if T. Jefferson designed it himself (he may have objected to its unoriginality and the further glorifying of his persona but it does look nice & appropriate), Cornell's building looks like a part of the smithsonian that was abandoned because of ghosts, Case Western's, in Ohio is a Disney Concert Hall clone, B. C.'s building looks like it was stolen straight from Princeton U's campus...
Rutgers36.. please edit your post and remove that long link and recreate it with something shorterOriginally posted by Rutgers36:
Every building should look like the new BEST dorms on Busch, not sure how to post a picture but heres the link.
YOUR LINK IS WAY TOO LONG