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Are there any pictures of the new Business School available?

jdm,

I appreciate your point of view. Seeing buildings in person can certainly make a difference. I'm skeptical of this one, but maybe it's better than the pictures suggest.
 
Well lets wait 35 years until we can see the BOG Building and Grounds Committee minutes and see how they the misyake to chose this design for the building.
 
I also agree the the business school may turn out to be pretty exciting. In person the skin is interesting And it will be one of those buildings that looks different at different times of the day. The true test will be how the surrounding s are integrated from a pedestrian, public space and accessibility. If it ends up having a bunch of parking around it it will be a lost opportunity.
The placement of the new dorms was all wrong . The new apartments should have been used to form a public plaza connecting RAC to bis school . Fans could have energized the plaza and retail on game nights . Now the placement of retail is isolated away from the flow of fans so it only services students when they are there. That is why Lot 8 is being conceived as a public space where students, staff, faculty and the broader community can interact ...think Harvard Square...etc
 
Originally posted by Cofifa:
I also agree the the business school may turn out to be pretty exciting. In person the skin is interesting And it will be one of those buildings that looks different at different times of the day. The true test will be how the surrounding s are integrated from a pedestrian, public space and accessibility. If it ends up having a bunch of parking around it it will be a lost opportunity.
The placement of the new dorms was all wrong . The new apartments should have been used to form a public plaza connecting RAC to bis school . Fans could have energized the plaza and retail on game nights . Now the placement of retail is isolated away from the flow of fans so it only services students when they are there. That is why Lot 8 is being conceived as a public space where students, staff, faculty and the broader community can interact ...think Harvard Square...etc
I'm also in the camp that the building is kind of exciting and I say that as a total purist when it comes to design.

If your comments about a Harvard Square type area come to fruition, I think it will be awesome. Otherwise, it will have been a tremendously lost opportunity.
 
Originally posted by Cofifa:

That is why Lot 8 is being conceived as a public space where students, staff, faculty and the broader community can interact ...think Harvard Square...etc

Cofifa -- You have compared the development of Lot 8 to Harvard Square and Bryant Park. Those are both great public spaces. But I can't visualize how the space of Lot 8 can contain 3 mid-to-high-rise buildings, and still have enough public space available to resemble Harvard Square or Bryant Park in any way.
 
Originally posted by Upstream:
Originally posted by Cofifa:

That is why Lot 8 is being conceived as a public space where students, staff, faculty and the broader community can interact ...think Harvard Square...etc

Cofifa -- You have compared the development of Lot 8 to Harvard Square and Bryant Park. Those are both great public spaces. But I can't visualize how the space of Lot 8 can contain 3 mid-to-high-rise buildings, and still have enough public space available to resemble Harvard Square or Bryant Park in any way.
Both of those places have a totally non-tacky giant jumbotron installed right?

It won't be architecturally/design like either - Bryant Park is much larger - bigger than Olde Queens (excluding the NYC Library - which itself is nearly as large). Harvard Square is more of a broad district than a single smallish complex.

Devco appears to have done a good job with the Honors College. But I have a feeling that this project is just going to not work out to its full potential. It will neither be a signature building, nor something that really fits it.
This post was edited on 8/19 8:14 AM by derleider
 
As Derleider noted, neither Bryant Park nor Harvard Square appears to be a particularly useful comparison.

However, there are certainly elements of Bryant Park that could be applied here on a smaller scale.
 
Originally posted by Upstream:
Originally posted by Cofifa:

That is why Lot 8 is being conceived as a public space where students, staff, faculty and the broader community can interact ...think Harvard Square...etc

Cofifa -- You have compared the development of Lot 8 to Harvard Square and Bryant Park. Those are both great public spaces. But I can't visualize how the space of Lot 8 can contain 3 mid-to-high-rise buildings, and still have enough public space available to resemble Harvard Square or Bryant Park in any way.
Well, here it is..


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Originally posted by lawmatt78:

Originally posted by Upstream:

Originally posted by Cofifa:

That is why Lot 8 is being conceived as a public space where students, staff, faculty and the broader community can interact ...think Harvard Square...etc

Cofifa -- You have compared the development of Lot 8 to Harvard Square and Bryant Park. Those are both great public spaces. But I can't visualize how the space of Lot 8 can contain 3 mid-to-high-rise buildings, and still have enough public space available to resemble Harvard Square or Bryant Park in any way.
Well, here it is..


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I commented in the other thread that Lawmatt started. The essence of my post is this plan sucks.

I just want to point out that I like the Vue (and although I don't like the parking deck on Easton Ave, I don't find it as objectionable as some others). I also think the new buildings on Livingston are interesting.
 
I strongly encourage those making an opinion to visit the new b. school before chastising the "unique" design. I drove in the other night off 18 when the sun was going down. I was quite impressed.

I'm happy that building is on Livingston and no where else. I truly believe it will become an iconic building on campus. Maybe I'm biased as I kow several Ten Arq. employess, but I stand firmly behind it. Now hopefully the RAC plaza is built and it flows nicely into it...
 
I have walked by the b school several times and often wonder why the BoG just didn't hose to develop buildings in the federalist style on Livingston. At one time, the 1960's architecture of Livingston and Scott Hall were considered attractive as well. They should trying to be cutting edge and produce what has held up to be attractive.
 
The inside looks a lot better than the outside IMHO. But I still don't get the Silicon Valley chic, modern design in the middle of RU.
 
FYI, On the youtube account linked above, there are also videos posted of the movie theater and new apartments.
 
Originally posted by RU-ROCS:
The inside looks a lot better than the outside IMHO. But I still don't get the Silicon Valley chic, modern design in the middle of RU.
But that's part of the reason for the design; it's NOT in the middle of RU (which historically, culturally if not geographically is College ave.) but rather on a campus with an ill-defined identity and which also afforded the opportunity to make a bold statement AND inform the architectural direction the University wanted to take on Livingston campus. Now, in 20 years, if they've conformed future building on Livingston to the aesthetic of the Business School flagship then it will be a fantastic visual statement. OTOH, if they follow Busch campus' example then Livingston will complement the architectural confusion that is Busch campus.
 
I drove past the new building last week before the football game. Although I only saw the outside, I thought it was better than nice. I thought it was very impressive. This will be a successful, iconic building for this campus.

As you enter the campus from Rt 18, you drive right up to the building. There is a traffic circle at the intersection, that allows you to see the building from different angles. The exterior skin of the building is 3-dimensional reflective panels. As you drive past, you see the changes in shadows and changes in reflections of the sky and ground.

After driving under the building, you go to the new buildings with retail in front of the RAC parking lots. I can see this area being a hub of activity.

My impression of Livingston Campus is that it is being transformed from a blase mass of nondescript buildings to a very desirable suburban campus. With the improvements, Livingston Campus can rival College Ave (the historic urban campus), and Douglass/Cook (the park-like campus on the edge of town). Each of the campuses are different, and each can be excellent in their own way. Only Busch Campus now lags behind.


The one thing I didn't like about Livingston is that there was very little building signage. I would have liked to know what the different buildings were, as I drove by.


This post was edited on 9/14 7:40 AM by Upstream
 
Originally posted by Upstream:
I drove past the new building last week before the football game. Although I only saw the outside, I thought it was better than nice. I thought it was very impressive. This will be a successful, iconic building for this campus.

As you enter the campus from Rt 18, you drive right up to the building. There is a traffic circle at the intersection, that allows you to see the building from different angles. The exterior skin of the building is 3-dimensional reflective panels. As you drive past, you see the changes in shadows and changes in reflections of the sky and ground.

After driving under the building, you go to the new buildings with retail in front of the RAC parking lots. I can see this area being a hub of activity.

My impression of Livingston Campus is that it is being transformed to a blase mass of nondescript buildings to a very desirable suburban campus. With the improvements, Livingston Campus can rival College Ave (the historic urban campus), and Douglass/Cook (the park-like campus on the edge of town). Each of the campuses are different, and each can be excellent in their own way. Only Busch Campus now lags behind.


The one thing I didn't like about Livingston is that there was very little building signage. I would have liked to know what the different buildings were, as I drove by.
Thanks for the review.

I like what you said here.
 
Originally posted by e5fdny:
Originally posted by Upstream:
I drove past the new building last week before the football game. Although I only saw the outside, I thought it was better than nice. I thought it was very impressive. This will be a successful, iconic building for this campus.

As you enter the campus from Rt 18, you drive right up to the building. There is a traffic circle at the intersection, that allows you to see the building from different angles. The exterior skin of the building is 3-dimensional reflective panels. As you drive past, you see the changes in shadows and changes in reflections of the sky and ground.

After driving under the building, you go to the new buildings with retail in front of the RAC parking lots. I can see this area being a hub of activity.

My impression of Livingston Campus is that it is being transformed to a blase mass of nondescript buildings to a very desirable suburban campus. With the improvements, Livingston Campus can rival College Ave (the historic urban campus), and Douglass/Cook (the park-like campus on the edge of town). Each of the campuses are different, and each can be excellent in their own way. Only Busch Campus now lags behind.


The one thing I didn't like about Livingston is that there was very little building signage. I would have liked to know what the different buildings were, as I drove by.
Thanks for the review.

I like what you said here.
Busch has an identity - it is really the most large state school college campus of all of the campuses in its look and size (even more so than Livingston, which excluding the RAC related areas is still more of the scale of a small state school than a large one.)

The thing with Busch is to make the interbuilding spaces better and replace or renovate some of the really ugly buildings.
 
#26 on the Complex 50 ugliest campus list, not news worthy as we make the rounds on these.
I only post as they use a picture of the new business school as one of their examples.

I don't know if I will permit myself a delay in tailgating to go to Livingston tomorrow but I really need to see this building.

- I see that this was also posted on the Football Board so its old news.
This post was edited on 9/20 4:27 PM by DowntownT_Brown

http://www.complex.com/art-design/2013/09/ugly-college-campuses/#./rutgers-new-brunswick?&_suid=137970367620407186141856277894
 
I hated the new business school design when I first saw it on paper and then during construction. I'm more of a brick and mortar, traditional colonial college architecture guy. But, I have to admit going to a night game at the RAC earlier this week, the new building has a striking, monolithic, uniquely modern feel to it, especially when it is lit up at night. It certainly is a statement type of building, which has grown on me. It also seems to blend well with the other new construction adjacent to the RAC.
 
Originally posted by RU-ROCS:
I hated the new business school design when I first saw it on paper and then during construction. I'm more of a brick and mortar, traditional colonial college architecture guy. But, I have to admit going to a night game at the RAC earlier this week, the new building has a striking, monolithic, uniquely modern feel to it, especially when it is lit up at night. It certainly is a statement type of building, which has grown on me. It also seems to blend well with the other new construction adjacent to the RAC.
Would be interesting to see it at night. LIke I said - during the day it was actually less inspiring than I thought it looked on the pictures.
 
I have only seen it at night. I think it is interesting because it is a novelty, but would not consider it aesthetically pleasing.
I believe the goal was to build a "signature" building and they hit their mark in that respect.

Due to the dearth of traditional styled buildings on Livingston, what I think they should have done was build the RBS in a large scale traditional style and you have your signature building while also dressing up the campus. Filling the aesthetic void would be statement enough.
 
I've been watching this thread with some interest. While I appreciate where the negative comments are coming from, the fact is that the new business school building is a resounding success. The students, staff, and faculty love the building. People from the business world who visit are supremely impressed.

And, oh, it was recently selected the 19th most beautiful business school building IN THE WORLD.

http://business.rutgers.edu/news/rutgers-business-schools-new-building-ranked-among-50-most-beautiful-b-schools-world

Time to just accept that the building is a gem and a great point of pride for Rutgers.
 
Livi is odd. You have generic 1960's architecture mixed with generic 2010's architecture and the crazy looking RBS building.

Hey, the food's good and the little shops are nice.
 
Originally posted by Rutgers2020:
I've been watching this thread with some interest. While I appreciate where the negative comments are coming from, the fact is that the new business school building is a resounding success. The students, staff, and faculty love the building. People from the business world who visit are supremely impressed.

And, oh, it was recently selected the 19th most beautiful business school building IN THE WORLD.

http://business.rutgers.edu/news/rutgers-business-schools-new-building-ranked-among-50-most-beautiful-b-schools-world

Time to just accept that the building is a gem and a great point of pride for Rutgers.
I've accepted it - just saying - it looks cheap to me - not sure what it is - the materials I guess. As they say in Clueless, its a total Monet.
 
I followed the links to the original list/pics of the Top 50 Business School Buildings; lo & behold many surpass the RBS building in daring/crazy. The Moscow building is a great expression of WTF, IMHO. Elon U Business School (north Carolina ) looks plantation perfect, France has a mansion, U of V Business School looks as if T. Jefferson designed it himself (he may have objected to its unoriginality and the further glorifying of his persona but it does look nice & appropriate), Cornell's building looks like a part of the smithsonian that was abandoned because of ghosts, Case Western's, in Ohio is a Disney Concert Hall clone, B. C.'s building looks like it was stolen straight from Princeton U's campus...

Top 50 Business School Buildings
 
Originally posted by Korbermeister:
I followed the links to the original list/pics of the Top 50 Business School Buildings; lo & behold many surpass the RBS building in daring/crazy. The Moscow building is a great expression of WTF, IMHO. Elon U Business School (north Carolina ) looks plantation perfect, France has a mansion, U of V Business School looks as if T. Jefferson designed it himself (he may have objected to its unoriginality and the further glorifying of his persona but it does look nice & appropriate), Cornell's building looks like a part of the smithsonian that was abandoned because of ghosts, Case Western's, in Ohio is a Disney Concert Hall clone, B. C.'s building looks like it was stolen straight from Princeton U's campus...
How 'bout Ashridge. Damn, that looks pretty nice...
 
From topmanagementdegrees.com 50 Most Beautiful Business Schools :
19. Rutgers Business School, Rutgers University, New Jersey, USA



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Rutgers University's impressive business school is so new that its
students have barely had time to crack the spines on their textbooks.
Prestigious Mexican architect Enrique Norten designed the six-story
building, which was unveiled for the fall 2013 semester at the
university's Livingston Campus. The pointed, toothpick-like columns
pictured prop up an eye-catching walkway that links together two of the
school's glass-fronted towers. Rutgers Business School itself is host to technology amounting to almost $4 million, most of which can be found inside the various teaching rooms.


This post was edited on 7/14 11:45 PM by jdm1979
 
Originally posted by Rutgers36:
Every building should look like the new BEST dorms on Busch, not sure how to post a picture but heres the link.

YOUR LINK IS WAY TOO LONG
Rutgers36.. please edit your post and remove that long link and recreate it with something shorter

All you need do is USE the NAME box under the ADDRESS box

Or just copy this link when you edit your post...

New Best Dorms on Busch

The reason is that the long text without gaps results in ridiculous side-ways scrolling for everyone reading the thread.
 
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