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As Rutgers punches bowl bid, Greg Schiano earns bonus: Here’s how much

Close , but no cigar , when it comes to who was worse.
But who improved the most this year goes to the Hoosiers
( that's not listed in the records below )
Indiana 45 -62
22023Big Ten390.250180.111-2.494.52Tom Allen (3-9)
32022Big Ten480.333270.222-3.055.03Tom Allen (4-8)
42021Big Ten2100.167090.000-4.708.631717Tom Allen (2-10)
52020Big Ten620.750610.85713.714.467121111Tom Allen (6-2)Outback Bowl (L)
62019Big Ten850.615540.5565.791.4924Tom Allen (8-5)Gator Bowl (L)
72018Big Ten570.417270.2222.445.61Tom Allen (5-7)
82017Big Ten570.417270.2224.744.90Tom Allen (5-7)
92016Big Ten670.462450.4441.382.69Kevin Wilson (6-6), Tom Allen (0-1)Foster Farms Bowl (L)
102015Big Ten670.462260.2502.263.03
Rutgers 32-75
22023Big Ten760.538360.3334.934.93Greg Schiano (7-6)Pinstripe Bowl (W)
32022Big Ten480.333180.111-5.093.74Greg Schiano (4-8)
42021Big Ten580.385270.222-1.324.06Greg Schiano (5-8)Gator Bowl (L)
52020Big Ten360.333360.333-2.383.18Greg Schiano (3-6)
62019Big Ten2100.167090.000-11.164.93Chris Ash (1-3), Nunzio Campanile (1-7)
72018Big Ten1110.083090.000-9.654.10Chris Ash (1-11)
82017Big Ten480.333360.333-2.276.15Chris Ash (4-8)
92016Big Ten2100.167090.000-6.974.95Chris Ash (2-10)
102015Big Ten480.333
lol some of you are just too much

'Indiana University has the most losses of any Division I (FBS or FCS) football program (713),[3] and also the fourth worst winning percentage of any FBS team with over 1,000 games played (.421).[4] No coach since 1948 has left with a winning record'
 
A one season thing is not enough evidence draw conclusions about anything other than tha.t one season. Wake me up when they win 8+ games for 10 years in a row.
you're smarter than this so read back and see what this was referencing.
 
Per my response to Plum, though JayDog may indeed have superhuman powers, the saying “it’s not in my DNA” is just that - a saying.

I champion NIL because I believe it, and conversely, donate a decent amount to it.

I haven’t given up on anything - I’ve decreased my donations to fb because I do not believe Greg is the guy to get us over the hump, and have redirected that dollar amount elsewhere (basketball and lax) and actually increased in certain instances

Again, like NIL, this is not a hard concept to grasp

Exactly, not a hard concept..... basically you're a hypocrite. Others should donate to football NIL to make the team better and you'll direct your funds elsewhere because you don't like Schiano.

Ps....no one really knows what anyone donates here. You could be all talk.....certainly seems that way based on your FSU ties, multiple IDs and arrogant posting style.
 
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Exactly, not a hard concept..... basically you're a hypocrite. Others should donate to football NIL to make the team better and you'll direct your funds elsewhere because you don't like Schiano.

Ps....no one really knows what anyone donates here. You could be all talk.....certainly seems that way based on your FSU ties, multiple IDs and arrogant posting style.
Reading comprehension isn’t your friend
Neither is remaining sane, but I digress

Again, I still donate to football
Based on the majority of this boards outward disdain for NIL, I doubt most do

Which is fine if you’re ok w mid tier bowls
I’m not - which is, wait for it… why i donate

If that comes across as arrogant, tough shit
 
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Reading comprehension isn’t your friend
Neither is remaining sane, but I digress

Again, I still donate to football
Based on the majority of this boards outward disdain for NIL, I doubt most do

Which is fine if you’re ok w mid tier bowls
I’m not - which is, wait for it… why i donate

If that comes across as arrogant, tough shit

Let me present your logic back to you...... you're not fine with mid-tier bowls and want better......and the action you've claimed to take is reducing your donations towards football. How exactly do you think that will help getting RU on a path towards better bowls....or even better....your obvious goal of replacing Schiano?

I swear Its like talking to a block head middle schooler wanna be tough guy. The problem here is that you're too fvcking stupid to even understand what you posted and why it's both illogical and hypocritical.
 
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Let me present your logic back to you...... you're not fine with mid-tier bowls and want better......and the action you've claimed to take is reducing your donations towards football. How exactly do you think that will help getting RU on a path towards better bowls....or even better....your obvious goal of replacing Schiano?

I swear Its like talking to a block head middle schooler wanna be tough guy. The problem here is that you're too fvcking stupid to even understand what you posted and why it's both illogical and hypocritical.
Let me slow this down for you - JD will do it in a way where the sane ones will understand, whereas those who claim insanity, regardless of how many times I repeat the same mantra, may still be confused:

1. I’m doing my part by donating to the football program

2. I don’t believe that Schiano is the answer

3. Hence, I’m not donating what I usually would because I feel that is money that would be wasted

If I felt that Greg was the guy to make us Elite, my original donation would have stayed the same or likely increased

However, although I like Greg, and think he’s a great role model for young men and appreciate everything he has done for the program, I do not believe he is the guy to get us to the championship level

Thus, due to my beliefs, and although I am still donating to the football program,I’m not going to donate what I used to donate, or anymore on top of that, because I don’t believe that said donation would get us to the elite level that I believe we can be at due to Greg‘s deficiencies
 
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Don't care how you donate, but I thought your contention this entire time has been that NIL is our ticket to being elite. Full stop.

If we need to find that elusive elite-level coach AND make it rain NIL, we're not theoretically any better off in NIL era than we were before.

What am I missing?
 
Don't care how you donate, but I thought your contention this entire time has been that NIL is our ticket to being elite. Full stop.

If we need to find that elusive elite-level coach AND make it rain NIL, we're not theoretically any better off in NIL era than we were before.

What am I missing?
It is
But it's like recuriting - you need the X's and O's along with the Jimmy's and Joe's

NIL gets you the X's and O's - player wise
But you still need to coach them up

If we fund NIL and find a next level coach (easier said than done, and I'm not talking about Saban or Urban), then yes, I do believe we're better off than we would be before due to being able to acquire players via $$$
 
It is
But it's like recuriting - you need the X's and O's along with the Jimmy's and Joe's

NIL gets you the X's and O's - player wise
But you still need to coach them up

If we fund NIL and find a next level coach (easier said than done, and I'm not talking about Saban or Urban), then yes, I do believe we're better off than we would be before due to being able to acquire players via $$$
I hope you realize that most “next level coaches” also now “require” to be guaranteed a certain level of NIL funding to be available before coming on board.

Therefore “anti-Schiano” folks not contributing for whatever personal reason are not only limiting the level of players he can offer but also the level of the next head coach Rutgers can recruit when such a candidate sees the relative piss-poor history of actual NIL funding under Schiano here as compared to more competitive teams in our conference.

Once again Rutgers would be forced to buy on the cheap the next time around.
 
Year started out with a lot of promise/expectations .....but then injuries and a dip in performance hit and expectations were lowered to the extent that "Fire Schiano" became a thing.......then over the past several games there is renewed hope......this roller coaster is likely why some people are expressing that they now feel good about Schiano's performance.

As far as your list....
  1. Not sure what your "Greatest School in the country" comment has to do with Football prowess. Certainly Rutgers has not proven to be historically one of the Greatest Football Schools in the country.
  2. Similar to #1 - how does the location in Piscataway/NBR NJ apply to Football Prowess? If you look at historical football program success and fan interest - there is much greater impact by being in the South or Mid-West.
  3. Media Capital yes - but this is a double edged sword. When things are going well then great. NY Media tends to be agnostic when it comes to College Football. NJ Media tends to focus on the waste factor as it applies to RU & RU Football.
  4. Incorrect - according to USA Today - Schiano is 34th in coaching salaries. https://sportsdata.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/football/coach
  5. Best I can tell by looking at various rankings - the OC Salary for Ciarrocca @ $1.4M is near the bottom of the Top 10. The DC Salary for Harasymiak @ $1.25M is not close to the Top 10 paid DCs which appears to be in the range of $1.8M - $2.4M. https://247sports.com/longformartic...head-of-2024-season-ranked-232264992/#2425272
  6. Development and Support Staff - I've not seen any information on this - but if you have it per your claim would be good to see
  7. and 8. are essentially the same point. I has been generally an easier schedule than in past seasons but should be noted that going by the previous BIG East schedule as a barometer is outdated given the additions. Schedule difficulty will likely sway from year to year going forward than previous.
1.Simply stating my love for the greatest school in the country.
2. NYC, Beaches, pork roll I mean what else needs to be said
3. It tends to be agnostic because of the coach and team performance and personality. Would NYC media be different with Prime?? Schiano os a dud !
4. That’s not including is escalation which is north of 7.5 mm which puts him around 14 on your info.
5. So KC is in the top 10! Coach H is according to your link somewhere between 10-15 (no where near the Bs crying of we don’t pay our coaches)
6. 8.65mm on development staff 1 in big ten
7. We have played teams with a combine losing record . No power houses and two of the west coast games at home.

*it’s ok we know Schiano is trash and buying time until he’s finally good forever
 
1.Simply stating my love for the greatest school in the country.
2. NYC, Beaches, pork roll I mean what else needs to be said
3. It tends to be agnostic because of the coach and team performance and personality. Would NYC media be different with Prime?? Schiano os a dud !
4. That’s not including is escalation which is north of 7.5 mm which puts him around 14 on your info.
5. So KC is in the top 10! Coach H is according to your link somewhere between 10-15 (no where near the Bs crying of we don’t pay our coaches)
6. 8.65mm on development staff 1 in big ten
7. We have played teams with a combine losing record . No power houses and two of the west coast games at home.

*it’s ok we know Schiano is trash and buying time until he’s finally good forever
I get not thinking Schiano is the solution, but you're just a hateful douche.

Seek therapy, perhaps?
 
I can't believe there are those who think Rutgers could ever be Elite.
" HOPE" is the word .
The Sleeping Giant waking up usually is one eye open for a short time, but the snoring starts shortly after it closes again
We can only "hope" that Giant wakes up and Rutgers becomes one of the Big Boy programs.
 
I can't believe there are those who think Rutgers could ever be Elite.

Did you ever think Indiana could be in contention for the CFP?

Why even bother being a fan with such a low opinion of the program?
That's what HC Schiano thought when he ran from the program.
 
This is a perfect example of my earlier post.

The people who defend HC Schiano the most (best we could do, we don't have money to actually compete, the fanbase stinks, stop expecting a miracle) seem to also have the lowest opinion of the program.
It's an interesting dichotomy.

Those saying perhaps another coach could achieve greater success have faith in the program.
 
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This is a perfect example of my earlier post.

The people who defend HC Schiano the most (best we could do, we don't have money to actually compete, the fanbase stinks, stop expecting a miracle) seem to also have the lowest opinion of the program.
It's an interesting dichotomy.

Those saying perhaps another coach could achieve greater success have faith in the program.
100%
 
This is a perfect example of my earlier post.

The people who defend HC Schiano the most (best we could do, we don't have money to actually compete, the fanbase stinks, stop expecting a miracle) seem to also have the lowest opinion of the program.
It's an interesting dichotomy.

Those saying perhaps another coach could achieve greater success have faith in the program.
There is no basis to support the idea that another coach could have greater success, other than your fantasies. Our history suggests otherwise.

Why are you wasting our time with this nonsense when when you know full well that Schiano is under contract till 2030, and after having notched yet another bowl season, his best coaching job to date, especially when you consider injuries?
 
This is a perfect example of my earlier post.

The people who defend HC Schiano the most (best we could do, we don't have money to actually compete, the fanbase stinks, stop expecting a miracle) seem to also have the lowest opinion of the program.
It's an interesting dichotomy.

Those saying perhaps another coach could achieve greater success have faith in the program.
Maybe these people are …wait for it .,, realistic?
 
lol some of you are just too much

'Indiana University has the most losses of any Division I (FBS or FCS) football program (713),[3] and also the fourth worst winning percentage of any FBS team with over 1,000 games played (.421).[4] No coach since 1948 has left with a winning record'
yes they do and were members of the Big 10 since the Big 10 conference was formed just before 1900
Meaning they played a D-1A schedule facing better programs than Rutgers did until RU went D-1A in 1980 or so.
Rutgers played an occasional D-1A program but mainly played D-1AA schools making for an easier schedule and more wins than if they played a D-1A schedule.
So the best comparison between Rutgers and Indiana's ineptness would be base on B1G play
 
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Did you ever think Indiana could be in contention for the CFP?

Why even bother being a fan with such a low opinion of the program?
That's what HC Schiano thought when he ran from the program.
I said "Elite"...not "have an impressive year".
And he didn't run from the program....he ran to the NFL.
 
I suggested on this board 20 years ago. This type of set up. Pay coaches bonuses based on winning. Was told I was stupid. That is not how it works.

Then we got Ash lol.
 
I said "Elite"...not "have an impressive year".
And he didn't run from the program....he ran to the NFL.

Um no he didn't.
You should probably listen to his off-season interview.

He said he left Rutgers because he thought they were going to be left out of the Big Ten.

I guess he didnt feel we were a good enouhh program for him as an AAC team.

Literally says he ran from something and not to something.

Starts around 8:30 mark.

Thread 'Rutgers coach Greg Schiano on wishing he had never left, and why he'll end his career at Rutgers' https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...nd-why-hell-end-his-career-at-rutgers.279419/
 
Um no he didn't.
You should probably listen to his off-season interview.

He said he left Rutgers because he thought they were going to be left out of the Big Ten.

I guess he didnt feel we were a good enouhh program for him as an AAC team.

Literally says he ran from something and not to something.

Starts around 8:30 mark.

Thread 'Rutgers coach Greg Schiano on wishing he had never left, and why he'll end his career at Rutgers' https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...nd-why-hell-end-his-career-at-rutgers.279419/
Schiano is one of the few Rutgers head coaches who left the job for an NFL head coaching job. Sorry, I can't think of the others right now. But he left for a better job. A much better job. A job that few college head coaches would not want to run to.
i don't really listen to many interviews, so I never heard his comments about running away from the Rutgers job. I thought he had received several offers to be the head coach at other colleges, but turned them down. Perhaps the timing for those other offers was wrong for running away from RU.
 
Um no he didn't.
You should probably listen to his off-season interview.

He said he left Rutgers because he thought they were going to be left out of the Big Ten.

I guess he didnt feel we were a good enouhh program for him as an AAC team.

Literally says he ran from something and not to something.

Starts around 8:30 mark.

Thread 'Rutgers coach Greg Schiano on wishing he had never left, and why he'll end his career at Rutgers' https://rutgers.forums.rivals.com/t...nd-why-hell-end-his-career-at-rutgers.279419/
this is correct
 
any you guys licking at his nuts want to chime in now?
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