Burning all his 2nd half time outs versus taking five-yard penalties....you're damned if you take either choice. I'll take a 2-2 record over being 0-1.
Ash got schooled
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Let's face facts. If RU won a National Championship, some here would complain that too many seniors would move on and Ash wouldn't have developed a strong enough back-up team to repeat. Or something like that.
Uhh it wasn't the timeouts that lost us the game, it was the retarded decisions not to ever kick a field goal, so I agree that this loss is 100% on Ash, but not because we used all the timeouts. If we kick field goals on 4th downs inside the 25, we win 16-14.
I'm finally putting him on "ignore." The guy has been - easily - one of the worst posters here for a decade. What a stupid, ignorant, post.
There were many questionable moves today and I'm sure Ash and Staff will learn:
- Wasting all TO's in the 2nd half for 5 yard penalties is not worth it. Clock Mgmt is critical. If we had a time out - we also could have challenged the fumble which Iowa recovered as the receiver did not have possession
- Offensive playcalling at goal zone was atrcious in several instances
- Thought team should passed much more on 1 st down
- Too many runs up the gut...
Defense played very well.
Sad thing was this was a game handed to us and as many Iowa fans told me - your staff and team blew it....
- Wasting all TO's in the 2nd half for 5 yard penalties is not worth it. Clock Mgmt is critical. If we had a time out - we also could have challenged the fumble which Iowa recovered as the receiver did not have possession
- Offensive playcalling at goal zone was atrcious in several instances
- Thought team should passed much more on 1 st down
- Too many runs up the gut...
Defense played very well.
Sad thing was this was a game handed to us and as many Iowa fans told me - your staff and team blew it....
We had a terrible head coach last year and the year before that.
We may not win a B1G game this year but we'll be begging Ash to stay in couple of years.
Where did we lost 9 points on FG's? Even 6 is a stretch. Here are our drives:
1) Punt from visitor 36
2) punt from home 20
3) punt from home 48
4) punt from visitor 40 (too long, no doubt)
5) failed 4th down on visitor 1 (wherever it was)
6) punt from home 27
7) TD
8) fumble on H 21
9) downs on V19 losing 14-7 can't kick FG there!
On the first drive of the game, despite the fact that we got it, we never should have gone for it on 4th down, should have kicked the field goal (that's one)... number 5, after being stuffed 3 times, we should have kicked the field goal on fourth down, not gone for it...having made those two field goals, we would have been down only one and should have kicked the fg on the last drive...that's 3=9 points
agree on number 9 but if they didn't blow the timeouts they could have gone for FG there.
I can't agree with that other than #5 but even there IF our freakin' QB makes the right play it's a TD. Period. You also can't just assume he's going to make the one from the 25 (which would have been a 42-yarder).
I wouldn't assume a 42 yarder, but that first drive, the 4th down was from the 12 yard line, it would have been a 30 yarder, the one before the half would have been a 20 yarder (snap from the 2) and the last one would have been a 37 yarder...none of them would have been snapped from the 25
While I would've liked to have some TO's at the end of the game, that is not why we lost. Also, let's not forget that we scored our only points coming out of one of those TOs - I'd say that's good coaching and a good use of a TO.
Douche post by a known clown ...
Correct, even veteran coaches make mistakes but to be fair Ferentz called a pretty bad game.
If anyone noticed Ash ripped a player a new on after he had to call a TO. Could swear it was #58, Turay. It looked like he and the LB were confused where to line up on the left side.
Could have been 10-3 if Iowa went for the FG instead of 4th & 5 TD try just before Ash went for the whole enchilada himself .
You do understand you can't coach in retrospect. You also can't assume every play call would be the same as it was or the results similar once you change the score even minimally. Maybe Iowa goes more wide open. Maybe it results in another TD or an RU interception. Once you change something that happened you change most everything.
Look, you can't even assume all the kicks would have been good no matter the distance.
My point exactly. Can't just change 1 play and not expect it have an effect somewhere else.
Honestly guys I don't know much about Ash other than he was a DC or Co-DC at OSU. Not enough to jump into a HC position with any level of success. If you look at the resumes of some of the most successful coaches you will see a process. This kid jumped up way too many levels. I was very vocal about hiring Bobby Petrino but people litterly flipped out. So today Rutgers has Ash and "The Ville" is looking like a playoff bound team.
Can't agree more......these days are what we will have to chalk up to growing pains..
Posted the same thing another thread. The players have to execute. We knotted it up in the final quarter after losing our No. 1 offensive threat in the 1st half. Better Conditioned football team than I have ever seen here before as well.
1. Rutgers wasn't hiring a new coach in 2014 when he was available.
2. Petrino is in his 3rd year this time around. Ash is in his 9th month.
3. Finally, Louisville was 12-1, ranked 15th IN THE COUNTRY the year before under Charlie Strong. At one point they were as high as 6th Rutgers was 4-8 and in a real mess after Flood.
Interesting that you didn't consider any of that. But I guess that's what people with an agenda do.
Same people complaining here about being outcoached, were predicting yesterday that we would be blown out by halftime. Our ''fans" amaze me. Just go to the games, cheer for the team, and enjoy yourself. The kids are playing their hearts out. We are just missing a few pieces.
Ru31trap is a bigger moron than Rumoose.
Seriously, we play better than anyone here thought we would, and you come out with "i told you sos" about a coach that wasn't available?
GTFO and don't peddle that drivel here.
How did Ash jump up too many levels? He went from coordinator at a top 5 program to HC.
Also, if you think there was greater than a 0% chance of Rutgers hiring Petrino, you haven't ben paying attention. Rutgers would never hire him,
LOL - this post is so inane I don't know where to begin.
DC of a team that won a natty. DC at two major Power 5 programs....highly regarded in the elite college football coaching fraternity. Came from the Urban Meyer coaching tree etc.
Giant killer ? LOL. They didn't play any FCS schools last year and in 2014 they beat "giant" Iowa St (2-9). They're clearly a very good program but a Big Ten program with better recruiting and more scholarships should beat them nine out of 10 at home. Iowa was good last year but like stocks/mutual funds past performance is not indicative of future results. They look very mediocre so far this year.
Yeah I don't know about this. QB? Yeah, no doubt, they had an edge there, everywhere else I thought we matched up quite well.
Now I'm not bashing Ash here, there is room for criticism, but I'm pretty excited at where this team is headed under this coaching staff, but this idea that we have no talent is false. (Granted QB is not the position you want to be lacking talent at).
Iowa has the starting QB back from last year and has 18 starters that are juniors or seniors. The players are basically the same players from last year. Rutgers has whoever they can find to play any position because of Flood recruiting. We have many new starters this year. There will be quite a few true freshmen playing next year for Rutgers.
Before you start calling people names get your facts straight. I wanted Bobby Petrino when Schiano announced that he was leaving which was around 2012/2013. At that time Petrino was at Western Kentucky I believe, a place he would have left in a heart beat to come here. You're wrong about Ash and his coaching staff. This gig is nothing more than a learn as you go job. He will not be here in 3 years. We lost at home against a s$&t Iowa team who a week before got beat by NDS and people here think it's a moral victory.
I don't think our coaching staff had a particularly good day. Regardless of the reasons if we needed to waste timeouts its on them. On two consecutive plays Ash is sprinting down the sideline to call a timeout. The first one he does not get there in time and then has to do it again the next play and gets the timeout. While I think we stopped them after the time out you think he could correct the issue in between plays. Iowa certainly was not playing fast. While schooled is a little harsh, the reality is that when Ash indicates there are things that need to get cleaned up it includes some of the communication between the coaches and with the players on the sideline during the games. I do think this staff seems capable of making in game adjustments pretty effectively.
