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Basketball certainly isn’t perfect, but we definitely have the ability to come up with some kind of number like their RPI and Quads that takes into account wins and losses and the strength of your schedule.

Not that it should override wins and losses, but I am tired of people talking about “tough schedules” because of games where they played someone who was ranked #11 at the time they played them, even though that team turned out to be 7-5 and unranked when all is said and done.

Right now, rankings made in the summer before a game is played have influence over people’s perceptions. Let’s get it down to data that changes along with the reality of how the season plays out.

Then, you would have a good number to use when comparing teams who are close to each other.
 
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12 teams are way too much for the CFP. There will be undeserving IUs in the bracket every year and in some years like this one, a few of them. We will probably get Oregon and Georgia in the finals which means every other game was a complete waste of time.
I have to agree. 8 teams sounds about right.
 
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The best part of this system is all the play in games during the season. How many games had playoff implications.
End of the day you will have your 4 teams that are just better than everyone else.
Maybe just one dominant team. Who knows?
As stated by PSU Nut, at least it’s being played out on the field not by some committee.
I hope they expand to 16 teams.
 
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If the deciding thing is who won and by how many points, OSU was the BIG winner and Tenn. the worst team of the four losers.
 
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Well, the SEC should shut up because not only did Tennessee get blown out, they got blown out by the lowest seed to win (OSU was #8) and in the easiest playing environment for an away team playing this weekend because they had about 30,000 of their fans in OSU stadium.
 
None of these first round games were very good, they were all bad match ups. Every higher seed won including OSU spanking Tennessee tonight. What it shows is that going to 12 team from 4 was a mistake. Probably should have expanded to only 6 or 8, then you'd likely have better quality games.
I'm not going to conclude going to 12 is a mistake after only 1 playoff season, and only 1/4 into it.
 
Well, the SEC should shut up because not only did Tennessee get blown out, they got blown out by the lowest seed to win (OSU was #8) and in the easiest playing environment for an away team playing this weekend because they had about 30,000 of their fans in OSU stadium.
OSU fans will not live that down. No one should let them. #bandwagon fans
 
I said from the beginning the playoff should have only been 8. They could have expanded later. With 12 you will get the blowouts early. The best part here is the SEC fan boys are all humbled. F the SEC, ESPN, KH and Lane Kiffen. All loudmouths. I better hear Kirk ripping Tennessee all day today.
 
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Don’t really know what people want here. The vast majority of first round NCAA basketball tourney games are blowouts and pointless but everyone loves that. From a competitive standpoint basketball should be capped at 12 and football 6. No teams beyond that have a realistic chance of being champions. Don’t BS things, the basketball tourney is largely a joke until the elite 8. Yes there upsets before that but those teams aren’t contenders and shouldn’t be there according to this logic.
 
Yes. Oregon and Georgia. That would have been perfectly fine this season.
That’s funny, if Georgia lost to Texas would they even have made the playoffs?
That’s debatable.
I think there is a lot of football to play and some interesting matchups.
Inclusion only makes college football more enjoyable to a lot more people.
You really had to be a diehard to watch the Alabama-Georgia finals. It’s a lot more interesting when more regions of the country are represented.
 
That’s funny, if Georgia lost to Texas would they even have made the playoffs?
That’s debatable.
I think there is a lot of football to play and some interesting matchups.
Inclusion only makes college football more enjoyable to a lot more people.
You really had to be a diehard to watch the Alabama-Georgia finals. It’s a lot more interesting when more regions of the country are represented.
The first 4 games were anything but enjoyable or interesting. Teams 9-12 were uncompetitive and undeserving on being in the CFP.
 
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The first 4 games were anything but enjoyable or interesting. Teams 9-12 were uncompetitive and undeserving on being in the CFP.
Disagree. While the games weren't close, each of those teams earned the chance to try and prove they belonged. Whether that happened or not is irrelevant. Their play through the season as a whole earned them a chance.
 
Disagree. While the games weren't close, each of those teams earned the chance to try and prove they belonged. Whether that happened or not is irrelevant. Their play through the season as a whole earned them a chance.
They earned crap. None of them had snowball chance in hell at winning the NC. Cut the field in half.

IU, Clemson, UT, SMU, ASU, Boise.....gone.
 
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They earned crap. None of them had snowball chance in hell at winning the NC. Cut the field in half.

IU, Clemson, UT, SMU, ASU, Boise.....gone.
Why not just announce Oregon the winner and have no games? #64 in the NCAA MBB doesnt have a shot to win it all but they earned the right into the tournament.

As much as I hate to agree with a PSU fan, I would rather sit through blowouts and watch things play out on the field than have some guys in a board meeting decide it.
 
Why not just announce Oregon the winner and have no games? #64 in the NCAA MBB doesnt have a shot to win it all but they earned the right into the tournament.

As much as I hate to agree with a PSU fan, I would rather sit through blowouts and watch things play out on the field than have some guys in a board meeting decide it.
Prior to the BSC, Oregon would have been the unanimous NC without any debate or bitching. The regular season and bowls would have mattered so much more.
 
Prior to the BSC, Oregon would have been the unanimous NC without any debate or bitching. The regular season and bowls would have mattered so much more.
The four major conference champions - Oregon, Georgia, Arizona State and Clemson. The conference championship games should be de facto playoff games.
That would be terrible.
 
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That would be terrible.
It would make the regular season (and winning the conference) meaningful again. I personally favor an 8 team playoff with autobids for all undefeated teams, too. But the purpose of a playoff should be for every team that earned an opportunity on the field to compete for a championship. That means winning your conference (for a major conference team) or going undefeated (outside the major conferences). Everyone else can go cry because they didn't earn their way in over the ENTIRE season.
 
The four major conference champions - Oregon, Georgia, Arizona State and Clemson. The conference championship games should be de facto playoff games.
They kind of are playoff games. Winners get the bye. Except Clemson who backed in by winning the ACC Championship. Boise was ranked higher so they received the bye.
I think by expanding the playoffs a lot of regular season games that might not have mattered on the national scale, mattered!
Looking back on the season how many Rutgers fans thought hey with our schedule. If we catch lightning in a bottle this year.
We’re going to the playoffs!
 
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Lame.
Wait until the TV ratings come in, and figure how much money that translates to. But yeah, nobody wanted to see these games...
I think tv ratings might not be so good because it was up against the NFL. I posted tweets about the expectation of that, plus a couple games were on TNT so how many knew that as well.

Other rounds that arent uo against the NFL should be better.

The ratings in season were good and ratings towards the end of the season were good with more games having more meaningful stakes.
 
As somebody who has said for years whenever the conversation about the playoffs came up, that we were already seeing blowouts with four teams and throughout the NY six, all I have to say now is:

“I told you so!”
 
Is it better to determine Indidna didn’t belong by playing a game or having a bunch of people in a room decide? I don’t know why anyone wants sports to determined by a committee rather than on the field actually playing the game.

Rutgers was handed a gift schedule this year. If they had gone 11-1 you are telling me it is better for a comittee, some who whom never even played the game determine weather Rutgers deserved to be in? You would prefer that over actually giving Rutgers a chance to prove they belong? You would rather see a 11-1 Rutgers team play say a 3 loss sec team in some bowl where all the star players opt out? You know it would happen because Schiano style of play is not going to pass the looks test that the committees love.

I don’t care if SMU deserved or didn’t deserve to be in. I got to spend another weekend watching the game that I love with my dad rooting for the team that we love. A game that both teams had a reason to play and both teams gave their all. I will take that any day then determining who plays in a hotel ballroom.


Getting to State College was a problem for some SMU fans/alums.

The airport could not handle the number of private jets flying into state college and some of them had to be diverted to Williamsport airport so they had to get limos to get to the game and some did not arrive until the 2nd quarter.

LOL

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
I think tv ratings might not be so good because it was up against the NFL. I posted tweets about the expectation of that, plus a couple games were on TNT so how many knew that as well.

Other rounds that arent uo against the NFL should be better.

The ratings in season were good and ratings towards the end of the season were good with more games having more meaningful stakes.
 
I said from the beginning the playoff should have only been 8. They could have expanded later. With 12 you will get the blowouts early. The best part here is the SEC fan boys are all humbled. F the SEC, ESPN, KH and Lane Kiffen. All loudmouths. I better hear Kirk ripping Tennessee all day today.
Add Alabama/SEC shill Greg McElroy and Syracuse grad Sean Mcdonugh to your list for setting the narrative on Friday night on Indiana not belonging and then bad mouthing the Big Ten stating they didn't deserve more teams than ACC and rest of Conferences due to limited championships since 2002 (they even got their cherry picking facts about NCs wrong). Disgusting comments by those 2 clowns of which KH ran with in support of the ESPN corporate position.

Of course when it came to the SMU shit show, Roddy and Mark Jones blamed a QB who simply had a bad day of which should not define their outstanding body of work. These ESPN crews are downright awful. Hated the fact that ESPN won out on retaining the college football playoffs and other networks were shut out. We're now subject to listening to the ESPN storyline on this sport which is fraught with bull crap.
 
Disagree. While the games weren't close, each of those teams earned the chance to try and prove they belonged. Whether that happened or not is irrelevant. Their play through the season as a whole earned them a chance.
Agreed. And because there are 12 spots instead of 4, probably at least 30 teams had a legit shot during the season, making many more games more meaningful
 
They shouldn’t have home games. I get why they do but in almost every case- when you get to this level, these home teams have always been almost impossible to beat on their home turf
have to disagree

I want home games until the final as it's earned imho. Not to mention, adds a level of excitement as well
 
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Wait till the coming week and Arizona State and Boise State get roasted for having 1st round byes. The complaints will continue and rightfully so. Initial 12-team playoff idea in theory is a good one I think, execution stinks!
Boise most definitely should not have had a 1st round bye given their level of play and opponents
 
Basketball certainly isn’t perfect, but we definitely have the ability to come up with some kind of number like their RPI and Quads that takes into account wins and losses and the strength of your schedule.

Not that it should override wins and losses, but I am tired of people talking about “tough schedules” because of games where they played someone who was ranked #11 at the time they played them, even though that team turned out to be 7-5 and unranked when all is said and done.

Right now, rankings made in the summer before a game is played have influence over people’s perceptions. Let’s get it down to data that changes along with the reality of how the season plays out.

Then, you would have a good number to use when comparing teams who are close to each other.
Post of the day. I think you will see that eventually as they fine tune this thing. Personally, I’m not interested in seeing the playoffs become the SEC Invitational.
 
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