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Bac's NCAA Analysis by Conference 2/22

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That time again. First outlook will just breakdown the NCAA situation by conference. Full pecking order will not start until next week. RPI numbers from 2/21


One bid conferences

AMERICA EAST: Stony Brook
ATLANTIC SUN: North Florida
BIG SKY: Weber State
BIG SOUTH: Winthrop
BIG WEST: Hawaii
COLONIAL: North Carolina Wilmington
CUSA: Alabama-Birmingham
HORIZON: Valparaiso
IVY: Princeton
MAAC: Monmouth
MIDAMERICAN: Akron
MEAC: Hampton
MVC: Wichita State
MWC: San Diego State
NORTHEAST: Wagner
OHIO VALLEY: Belmont
PATRIOT: Bucknell
SOUTHERN: Chattanooga
SOUTHLAND: Stephen F Austin
SUN BELT: Arkansas Little Rock
SWAC: Texas Southern
SUMMIT: Indiana Purdue Forth Worth
WAC: New Mexico State

Stony Brook, Princeton, Monmouth, San Diego State, Wichita State, and Arkansas Little Rock will be considered as at large schools if they do not win their conference tournaments

AAC

Autobid: Temple
BUBBLE

(38) CONNECTICUT 19-8: Even with the weekend loss to Cincy, the Huskies seem to have done enough as long as they can avoid any major slip ups. Of course a win at SMU would help bolster just that 3-2 mark vs top 50 rpi but overall the resume is solid. 7-8 vs top 100 rpi, SOS of 40. They won at Texas and beat bubbles Michigan and Ohio State. In league their best wins are Tulsa and SMU and lost their only matchup with Cincy. Getting swept by Temple hurt their AAC standing but overall when your worst loss is Gonzaga at rpi 68, things are looking good

(45) TULSA 18-9: Got big wins over Cincy and SMU in the past 10 days to vault them near the bubble. Just 2-5 vs top 50 and 6-8 vs top 100 they simply are going to have to keep winning. Hurricanes have some nice things on the resume, the win over Wichita State and a SOS of 36, Its just that they will need more and that means taking care of league leading Temple and then making a run probably to the AAC finals. In a AAC bubble battle with Cincy/Temple/UConn, Tulsa comes in 4th and this league isn't getting 4 bids.

(56) CINCINNATI 20-8: SOS seems to be the biggest issue here. Rated at 100 with a non conference SOS of 179, 14 of Cincy's 20 wins have come to 150 plus rated RPI schools and even one bad loss to Memphis outside the 150. How much is that going to be weigh against the good. Cincy swept UConn, beat A10 bubbles GW and VCU and split with Tulsa. However then you have the loss to bubble Butler and getting swept by Temple. the 5-4 vs top 50 and 6-7 vs top 100 are solid enough but I think Cincy may find itself hovering around the last 4 in/last 4 out line regardless of whether they beat SMU in the season finale





ATLANTIC 10

Autobid: Virginia Commonwealth
IN: Dayton
BUBBLE

(28) SAINT JOSEPH'S 22-5: Hawks fell out of first with a surprising loss to Davidson over the weekend. Its not a bad loss per se as Davidson is 59 in the rpi but they aren't a NCAA team and with a crowded A10 bubble picture, the Hawks blew a chance at getting some separation. Still the overall record and rpi are strengths. A SOS of 28, wins over Princeton and Temple, in league wins over GW and Dayton. They will get another crack at St Bona in their last 4, their only shot at picking another quality win to boost the 3-4 vs top 50 and 4-5 vs to top 100 before the A10 tourney. If they get that one and avoid losing to the dregs of the league they will be locked and loaded. If not then they have a bit of work to do in the A10 tourney.

(34) SAINT BONAVENTURE 18-7: Bonnies recovered from a resume killing loss to La Salle by simply going into Dayton and winning. That makes two marquee road wins over the top 2 in the A10 as they knocked SJU off last month. That alone keeps them in the game however besides the win over GW, their next best win is Ohio. 3-2 vs top 50 and 5-5 vs top 100. Unfortunately for them their last 4 provides only one more opportunity at a quality win..another meeting with St Joes. Bonnies need to win that plus take care of business. Thinking here is that they will need a very deep A10 run to land in the field.

(43) GEORGE WASHINGTON 20-7: Colonials in a tough spot because they went 0-3 vs the top 3 in the A10 and the problem is they only faced them once and are suffering from the unbalanced scheduling in the A10. In league they play they boast a win at VCU which isn't as impressive as in the Shaka Smart years. They get another crack at VCU in the next 4 but like SBU, its their only opportunity to pick up a quality win. OOC they do have that really impressive win over Virginia and another good one over NCAA likely Seton Hall but still that only puts them at 3-3 vs top 50 and just 4 top 100 wins. Two costly losses to De Paul and St Louis stick out. Another needing a strong run in the A10 tourney.


ACC

Autobid: North Carolina
IN: Virginia, Miami, Duke, Notre Dame
BUBBLE

(35) PITTSBURGH 18-7: Big win for the Panthers yesterday at the Carrier Dome to complete a season sweep of the Orange. Unfortunately Pitt has just one top 50 win over Notre Dame and their biggest non conference win is Davidson so they might do themselves well to pick up a quality win this week when Duke and Louisville visit the Pete. The 7-7 mark vs top 100 is going to keep them around no matter what and its true there is no loss outside the rpi top 100 but much like last year this resume is rather bland.

(52) SYRACUSE 18-10: The Boeheim suspension will play a factor here for sure and its stunning that the suspension will help not hurt as their poor performance without him which included a hideous loss to St Johns and a lost to Georgetown. Still Cuse has some nice things on this resume...5-7 vs top 50/7-9 vs top 100. They beat St Bonaventure, UConn and Texas A&M out of the conference. Its league play with just the win at Duke which is sketchy as they floundered against UNC, Miami, Louisville, Virginia, and note getting swept by Pitt. The last 3 are going to be very important...NC State is a must win as is the FSU road game...but the biggie is UNC at home. Win that and they are in lock stock and barrel. Lose that or any of those other 2 and they will need a deep ACC run to feel secure.

(70) GEORGIA TECH 15-12: Saturday's win over Notre Dame keeps the Yellowjackets slim hopes alive but they simply need to win out which would include wins over Louisville and at Pitt and then probably make the ACC semis. They will need all that to overcome the poor overall mark, just 3-7 vs top 50 and 5-10 vs top 100, and the poor 4-7 road/neutral mark...and lets not mention the 5-9 ACC mark. The SOS if 14 and is nice they beat Virgina and VCU but that's the best we can say right now.

(72) FLORIDA STATE 16-11: Another ACC bubble in serious trouble. Just 6-9 in the ACC, FSU matches GT with the UVA and VCU wins but adds in a win at Florida. Still that puts them at just 3-6 vs top 50...7-10 vs top 100. Note losses to Cuse and Ga Tech in their only meetings. The last 3 make or break them...at Duke, Notre Dame, and Cuse. Win all 3 and punch their ticket. Win 2 and they have a legit shot with some quality ACC tourney wins. Win 1 or none and they will have to win the ACC tourney

(99) CLEMSON 16-11: Despite the poor overall rpi, there are some nice things here. Wins over Miami, Louisville, Duke and Pitt. Also beat Cuse, Ga Tech, and FSU. In league 9-6 is very solid. Unfortunately the Tigers didn't schedule all that tough OOC with a SOS of 107 and their best win there was Wofford. Two really bad losses to UMass and Minnesota stuck out like sore thumbs as does the 3-8 road mark, if not for that stuff they could feel pretty good about themselves. Now the Tigers must win the last 3 including a home matchup with Virginia...if they do that it will be 12-6 in ACC and add to the 4-5 vs top 50 and 7-8 vs top 100 and I think they have a very strong case to be on the right side of the bubble before the ACC tourney.


BIG EAST

Autobid: Villanova
IN: Xavier
BUBBLE

(37) PROVIDENCE 19-8: Friars seem to be in a freefall with 4 losses in their last 5 including a damaging one to De Paul. Its going to come down to whether they can right the ship in the stretch. Next up is a matchup at SHU a school who beat the Friars earlier and then a reasonable finish with home games to Creighton and De Paul followed by a road tilt at St Johns. Anything less than 3-1 will put them smack on the bubble heading into what figures to be an unpredictable Big East tournament. That win over Nova who could be a #1 seed is a gift that will keep giving and the win over Arizona is another impressive one. . 8-5 vs top 100 includes a sweep over fellow bubble Butler and the other nitty gritty like road/neutral 8-4 and SOS of 46 are all solid enough. This is a school that should get in

(41) SETON HALL 19-7: Pirates averted what could have been a disasterous loss at St Johns. A home game with Providence followed by another with Xavier are two opportunities for SHU to punch their dance ticket. A win in either of those two or at Butler should be enough. However they also cannot afford to go 0-3 either in these games. A paltry 1-4 vs top 50 that over Providence, the top 100 mark is better at 7-7 including wins over Wichita State, Georgia, Ole Miss and Creighton. They don't have a loss outside the top 100 (Long Beach St at 97 is their worst. Will the Pirates finally avoided their usual late season collapse under Willard?

(59) BUTLER 18-9: Bulldogs simply do not have a large margin of error to go dancing. The biggest thing that sticks out here is the 0-6 mark vs Nova, Xavier, and PC. Butler is in desperate need of another quality win in league. They only have that win at SHU and they will have to beat them again down the stretch while also avoiding slipups to Marquette and at Georgetown. OOC they put together some nice stuff..wins over Purdue, Temple and Cincy but the 2-7 vs top 50 and 6-8 vs top 50 is wobbly. Going to be tough for the Big East to get 5 bids unless the conference tourney offers some surprises.

(83) CREIGHTON 17-10: I suppose we can keep the Bluejays here but realistically they need to win out which would include wins at Xavier and at Providence and then a trip to the BE finals. Not likely. They do have wins over Xavier, Butler and SHU but their biggest non conferernce win is only 160 Nebraska and have a really bad loss to Loyola Chicago. 2-6 vs top 50 and 4-9 vs top 100 does not cut it at this point.


BIG 12

Autobid: Kansas
IN: Oklahoma, West Virginia, Iowa State, Baylor Texas
BUBBLE

(25) TEXAS TECH 17-10: Red Raiders making a big push after a woeful January start. Big wins over Baylor, Iowa State and the feather in their cap win over Oklahoma last week has buoyed their profile dramatically. TTU has now notched 6 top 50 wins and are 7-8 vs top 100. They have sneaky good non conference wins over NCAA likelies South Dakota State, Hawaii, and Arkansas Little Rock. The SOS is a sterling #2. Tech looks good to go if they can hold serve at home vs the likes of TCU and KSU, it wont matter what they do in road trips to Kansas and WVU


BIG 10

Autobid: Maryland
IN: Iowa, Michigan State, Indiana,

BUBBLE

(21) PURDUE 21-7: the thinking here is the Boilermakers are good to go. Just keeping them here as a precaution if they drop those tricky last 3..Maryland, at Nebby and Wisky. Seem to have all the required wins..OOC there is Florida and at Pitt, in league they beat Michigan State, at Wisky, Michigan, and Ohio State. Just a lone bad loss at Illinois. 4-4 vs top 50 and 7-6 vs top 100 with a SOS of 41...the top resume among all schools mentioned this NCAA analysis.

(44) WISCONSIN 17-10: Comeback with over Ilinois keeps their late surge for a NCAA bid on track. Badgers have now won 8 of their last 9 negating a poor start to the year which saw losses to the likes of Milwaukee and Western Illinois. Those losses look like they will be overlooked now as long as Wisky can maybe split the last 4 of at Iowa/Mich/at Minn/at Purdue. 4-5 vs top 50 and 8-6 vs top 100 are very good. The big conference wins were at Maryland, Indiana, Michigan State, while OOC extremely solid with wins over VCU, Syracuse and Temple. Oh and the SOS its 5.

(55) MICHIGAN 18-9: Upset bid at Maryland fell short, no shame in that effort but Wolverines still in searching for one or two more quality wins to beef up those middling rpi numbers. Just 3-8 vs top 50 and 4-9 now vs top 100. A good OOC win over Texas and that big win earlier over Maryland but only the Purdue win to go along with that. Note losses to fellow bubbles Ohio State and UConn but its not like they have any bad losses, in fact the loss to OSU rpi 75 is their worst of the season. Last 3 provides an opportunity for them to lock in...Northwestern, at Wisky, and Iowa. Win 2 of those 3 and they are safely in. Win one or less and its work to do in the Big 10 tourney especially if that win isn't Iowa.

(75) OHIO STATE 18-10: The overall mark and the 10-5 conference mark make it seem like the Buckeyes are in good shape. However unpeeling the onion tells another story. Buckeyes are in big trouble. Just one lone top 50 win over Kentucky on a neutral court and they are just 2-7 vs rpi top 100. Those numbers do not get it done. In league OSU has just beaten Michigan and have lost to Indiana and Maryland by 25+. To go along with it are nasty plus 100 losses to Texas Arlington and Louisiana Tech. The road/neutral mark is a shaky 5-6. Well the good news is opportunity awaits. Two games vs Michigan State with a home game vs Iowa sandwiched in the middle. If they can pull out two of these I would say they would have pulled themselves onto the right side of the bubble but its going to take two and not just one. Other than that they will have to make a run very deep maybe to the finals of the Big 10 tourney to muscle their way in this year.


PAC 12

Autobid: Oregon
IN: Utah, Arizona
BUBBLE

(20) CALIFORNIA 19-8: Some sort of RPI phenomena in the Pac 12 this year which has landed 7 schools in the top 40 and 11 in the top 100 which has seemed to inflate everyones rpi nitty gritty. So with that being said that's why for right now we keep Cal on the bubble but firmly in. Just want to see one more quality win in the next 3 which includes UCLA and USC at home and Arizona on the road. Cal is a whopping 11-7 vs rpi top 100 and 5-6 vs top 50. They beat the biggies in league Arizona, Utah, and Oregon all at home. Lets note Cal's struggles on the road just 3-8. OOC the best wins are St Mary's and Davidson. So its going to be interesting to see how the selection committee stacks the many Pac 12 bubble teams against the rest of the country. Cal is by far the best of the bunch

(24) USC 19-8: A little cause for concern for the Trojans as losses in 3 of their last 4 has kept them from locking in. Last night it was a home loss to Utah which would have given them their best win this season. USC is just riding the Colorado and Arizona wins in league as their best. Two nice OOC wins in Wichita State and Monmouth but note they also lost to Monmouth but there is also a sneaky good win over Yale. Again the inflated rpi stuff brings their top 100 to 10-8 which should make them safe but its a tricky last 4. At Stanford and Cal and then the Oregon schools at home. A split should keep things looking solid heading into the Pac 12 tourney.

(33) OREGON STATE 14-10: The overall mark plus the 6-8 league mark are the biggest red flags right now. Beavers simply need to keep winning...preferably sweeping the Washington schools at home and then taking down at least one if not both of USC/UCLA on the road. Its a tough road but even with the solid rpi and SOS of 4, this league isn't getting sub 500 schools in the tourney this year.6-6 vs top 50 and 8-10 vs top 100 needs more. Their best OOC win is Tulsa and best overall is league leading Oregon. Just 1-6 on the road in the Pac 12 stands out, 5-7 overall road/neutral. Going to have to make hay in the Pac 12 tourney.

(36) COLORADO 18-9: Buffs face an almost must win situation hosting Arizona this week and it would do them well to pick off Utah on the road next week. Just not enough here right now to land them in the field. 3-7 vs top 50 and 7-9 vs top 100. Best wins are Oregon and Cal and a win over BYU is solid but not exactly what the selection committee is looking for when looking at whether you have big non conference wins. Bears are yet another Pac 12 school struggling on the road at just 5-8. Lotta work to do.

(66) UCLA 15-12: I hesitate to include the Bruins given their overall mark and 6-8 league mark but lets keep them here because a strong finish which would include a win over the Oregon schools and maybe a Cal is going to bolster the resume. Right now they sit at 4-8 vs top 50 and 8-10 vs top 100. There are some good things here...SOS of 15, wins over Kentucky, Arizona, Gonzaga...you would think a school with those kinds of quality wins would be a lock..well those wins while still good aren't as good as they normally are. Plus the Bruins have some bad losses which hurt them....Washington State and Wake and then we get to another bad road mark at 4-8.


SEC

Autobid: Kentucky
IN: Texas A&M
BUBBLE

(31) SOUTH CAROLINA 21-5: Despite the gaudy win total, the Cocks are no lock yet. Several losses the past few weeks to the likes of Georgia, Tennessee and just recent a hideous loss to Missouri have taken some luster off a strong 14-0 start to the season. They stopped the bleeding with a win over Florida on Saturday which pushed their rpi mark vs top 50 to 4-2 and 9-3 vs top 100. Those numbers are really good. SC has wins over Tulsa, Bama, and Texas A&M as well as a bunch of bubbles like LSU, Vandy and Clemson. Unfortunately the final 4 games do not provide any opportunity for anymore quality wins so its all about them navigating them without slipping up. They could afford maybe one but not two.


(32) FLORIDA 17-10: Gators have played the 9th toughest schedule and it got them wins over the likes of WVU and St Joe's. However its in the SEC where they failed to pick up wins against the top 4 in league losing them all . They do get another crack at home this weekend to Kentucky so that's the kind of win that can vault them in the tourney safely. Otherwise they just need to keep winning against bubbles Vandy and LSU and at least make the SEC semis. The 2-7 mark vs top 50 not good and 7-9 is a bit better as a lot of those come from the likes of the tail end SEC bubbles such as Georgia and Ole Miss. The Gators have to deal with the seemingly endless number of SEC bubble teams so it would behoove them to get some separation from them

(42) ALABAMA 16-10: After putting together such a solid resume that rates above Fla, its a shame that the Tide had to suffer such a disturbing home loss to Mississippi State on Saturday. That loss make its 2 bad losses against SEC dreck and those are the kind of things that they need to avoid in their final 4. They may not have to win at Kentucky but they would do themselves well to sweep the final 3 of Auburn, Arky and at Georgia. No real quality wins there unless they pull the Kentucky shocker but at 4-5 vs the top 50 and 7-8 vs top 100, the Tide would appear to have enough flesh on the resume as long as they avoid any more bad losses. Wins over Wichita State and Notre Dame OOC and A&M, SC and Florida in league are all very solid wins for them.

(62) VANDERBILT 16-11: Commodores were also another victim of Mississippi State last week, a crushing loss that along with Arkansas gives them 2 bad losses this year. Unlike with Bama though they find themselves on the wrong side of the bubble. Just 3-7 vs top 50 and 5-9 vs top 100 is going to need a lot more. Best OOC win was Stony Brook as Vandy went 0-4 OOC against the top 25 rpi. In league wins over Florida, A&M, and Bama at least keep them in the discussion. Its make or break in the final 4 games and there is plenty of opportunity....at Fla, Kentucky, Tennessee and at A&M. Find 3 wins in that group and they will bounce into the field. A split or less and it means fighting it out with the whole bunch in the always unpredictable SEC tournament.

(82) GEORGIA 14-11 and (85) MISSISSIPPI 17-10: bubble hopes on life support. Both need to win out the regular season to move themselves even into the serious discussion

(87) LOUISIANA STATE 16-11: The most talked about school on the bubble this year for many reason. One Ben Simmons, two they are tanking down the stretch and three an injury to Hornsby which might make any discussion about them moot. Tigers have dropped 3 of 4 but none hurt worse than a blowout loss to bottom feeding Tennesse. For LSU its the 4th loss outside the rpi top 100 and even two other losses to Houston and NC State are the kind you want on the resume. Last year LSU was able to overcome those numbers and while this year there are schools like Wisconsin who had some bad losses, those are negated by big wins. LSU doesn't have any non conference wins of note as their best is 138 ranked Oral Roberts. Wins in league over Kentucky, Bama, TexasA&M are good but not enough. Just 3-5 vs top 50 and 6-7 vs top 100, note the awful 3-8 road mark. LSU is in must win mode the rest of the regular sweep meaning they must beat Florida at home and beat Kentucky on the road while also avoiding more bad losses, other than that they most likely need to reach the SEC championship game to get back into the discussion

WCC

Autobid: St Mary's
BUBBLE

(68) GONZAGA 20-7: Dawgs find themselves in unfamiliar territory as their non conference schedule resume just does not have the meat that we are used to seeing from them. There is the win over UConn and Washington as well but they dropped close games to Tex A&M, Arizona, UCLA, and SMU. To their credit all 7 of their losses including the two losses to St Marys and the loss to BYU have all been single digits. First and foremost will be no slip ups the last two..so taking care of business at San Diego and then going to Provo and taking down a desperate BYU. At least would give them another top 100 win which sits at a paltry 2-7 right now. A trip to the WCC finals seems mandatory at this point. The committee may say past history does not matter but when it comes to Gonzaga it does.

(73) BRIGHAM YOUNG 20-8: Cougars always seem to find themselves here in the bubble discussion but this is the one year that they are the longest of longshots. 0-2 vs top 50 and 3-4 vs top 100. The best wins are Gonzaga fighting for their lives themselves and St Marys....you have to go to Belmont to find their biggest OOC win. Plus there are bad losses to Pepperdine, Portland, Harvard. Its just doesn't look like it will happen for them this year. I suppose they can beat Gonzaga and then beat them again and hope a close loss in the WCC finals might get them a look but at that point why not just win the whole WCC tourney


Note that schools like VCU, Temple, and St Marys will receive at large consideration if they don't win their conference tournaments


LAST 4 IN: GEORGE WASHINGTON, BUTLER, GONZAGA, SETON HALL
LAST 4 OUT: COLORADO, TULSA, SAINT BONAVENTURE, FLORIDA STATE
 
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Good write up. Always look forward to this time of year albeit without Rutgers in the mix.
 
Bac , great write ups!

do you gamble? you love your college hoops, seems right up your alley where the work would be enjoyable.
 
Agree with most of it------exception being South Carolina-----they're a lock IMO.

Two long weeks to go before conference tourneys.
 
thanks guys for the comments

as for South Carolina, they have enough wins, its just that the next 4 are against weak sisters of the SEC...two or more losses in that stretch will raise serious concerns.

Toby...no and Im glad I don't gamble $

Just a quick comment. This year the some of the so called mid majors are one bid leagues. The Mountain West and Missouri Valley are having terrible years. At large bids for some of the lower conferences for schools that may not win their conference tournaments such as Arkansas Litte Rock and Monmouth are on shaky ground.
The bubble is very small this year. Remember the exclusion of SMU and Louisville has opened for two more spots. I don't think there will be much complaining that anyone got snubbed but like last year with UCLA there will be some joker school that should not have got in.

As for Seton Hall, they are in desperate need of another quality win.
 
East Coast bias! Lol! UCLA made it to the Sweet 16 last year. Pac 12 always underrated including this year as Cal should already be a lock.
 
thanks guys for the comments

as for South Carolina, they have enough wins, its just that the next 4 are against weak sisters of the SEC...two or more losses in that stretch will raise serious concerns.

Toby...no and Im glad I don't gamble $

Just a quick comment. This year the some of the so called mid majors are one bid leagues. The Mountain West and Missouri Valley are having terrible years. At large bids for some of the lower conferences for schools that may not win their conference tournaments such as Arkansas Litte Rock and Monmouth are on shaky ground.
The bubble is very small this year. Remember the exclusion of SMU and Louisville has opened for two more spots. I don't think there will be much complaining that anyone got snubbed but like last year with UCLA there will be some joker school that should not have got in.

As for Seton Hall, they are in desperate need of another quality win.


In joker school do you mean Rutgers?
 
Like Dayton, VCU? Lol. Joker schools have been quite good at advancing fairly far.
 
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joker schools are those who don't deserve to get into the school based on the selection committee criteria of SOS, quality road wins, record vs top 100 rpi, minimal bad losses. Almost every year a school is selected over another school who is more deserving based on criteria. UCLA may have won once they got in the NCAA tourney but based on criteria, they shoudnt have got in
 
Performance suggests "jokers" not an appropriate term perhaps "Told you so's" in light of UCLA, Dayton and VCU. Houston in the mix as well with wins over LSU, Tulsa and Temple. PAC 12 RPI not hard to figure as best top to bottom conference. UCLA near the bottom has a win over Kentucky!
 
ND is not in yet either--- need 20 wins and I don't look at us as being able to just go out and beat anybody left on our schedule.

If you toss enough different criteria out there you can make an argument to keep any of the last 6-8 selections out of the tournament and that's exactly what the committee does.
 
I think its fascinating as I think some neat conference fighting. Try to distinguish between AAC, A10 and Big East with Temple, Tulsa, Cincy, Houston, St. Bonnie, GW, Butler and Creighton. (Assuming UConn and SHU in.) Same thing with ACC/ SEC battle. Try to distinguish Cuse, Pitt, Clemson, Florida, Bama, LSU, Ole Miss.
Looks like Gonzaga and BYU out this year. Also curious what they will do with Monmouth when they lose Conference tourney. Fun stuff!!
 
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If northwestern wins in Michigan and TCB vs. RU @19-10 do they make the bubble...they have beaten no one (Wisconsin when they were down, that's it)
 
if they win their last 4 and Michigan is the only quality win in the bunch and get to the Big 10 finals, they will be on the bubble
 
Interesting results last night from the SEC

LSU has basically played its way off the bubble right now with another bad loss this time at Arkansas and it wasn't even close. I suppose with wins against Florida and Kentucky they can play themselves back on but this team is a trainwreck right now

Vandy won down at Florida to keep their chances alive and sets up a huge home game vs Kentucky. Florida meanwhile moving close to the last 4 in line with that misstep and cant afford anymore slip ups

Alabama routed by Kentucky. Not fatal for their chances but they need to win out the rest of the regular season

Ole Miss over Missouri to keep their faint hopes alive

Ohio State was trounced by Michigan State at home. They still have games vs Iowa and at Michigan State so they aren't dead yet but for all intents and purposes this team is headed to the NIT

Tulsa routed Temple at home...huge win for them that vaulted them into the field for now. Temple still in first in the AAC (SMU ineligible) but has to start to worry about their at large chances

Georgia Tech nipped Clemson to keep their slim hopes alive while severely impacting Clemson's shot

Texas Tech over TCU, Red Raiders look all but in right now


LAST 4 IN: TULSA, BUTLER, GONZAGA, SETON HALL
LAST 4 OUT: GEORGE WASHINGTON, COLORADO, SAINT BONAVENTURE, VANDERBILT
 
recapping last night....

Wisconsin got a big time win at Iowa that now gives them 5 top 50 rpi wins. They are all but in, maybe make sure they win at Minnesota next week

Michigan rallied to beat Northwestern to stay on the right side on the bubble. Big road game with Wisky this weekend, its almost must win for them but not the Badgers

VCU suffered a crushing loss to George Mason which now moves them down to a 3 way tie for first with Dayton and SJU in the A10 but more importantly moves them from the projected A10 winner into the at large pool where their resume is a bit sketchy and they land on the last 4 in line...bad bad loss

GW still right around the Mendoza line beats Richmond to keep pace in the tight A10 race along with St Joes who moved into a tie for first with their win at UMass.

Creighton's longshot hopes were all but dashed with the loss to Marquette which I suppose starts a flicker on the Golden Eagles hopes

South Carolina would appear to be locked in now after dispatching of Tennessee. Would have to go 0-3 to be in danger.

Colorado got a big win over Arizona that gives them their 4th top 50 rpi win. They move in and they move in past the last 4 in line

Oregon State got a last second win over Washington that really bolsters their hopes going forward as they move to the last 4 out line. Still need a couple more wins meanwhile Washington's chances really hurt with this loss

Pitt missed a shot at a needed quality win but fell to Louisville at home. Panthers aren't in trouble just yet but they might be if they do not be Duke

Georgia's dim at large hopes are finished after a loss at Auburn

For Seton Hall fans you better be concerned. You guys only have two quality wins...at PC who has faded so that win isn't looking so hot and Wichita State who may not even make the tourney if they don't win the MVC tourney. Plus wins over Ole Miss and Georgia while top 100 wins aren't moving any needle. Seton Hall must win tonight vs Providence barring a huge upset against Xavier. Just 2-4 vs top 50, PC is 2-5. Tonight determines which team gains the advantage profile wise. Sweeping PC is enormous. I think the game at Butler is also must regardless since they are fighting for their lives and a loss would mean a Butler sweep. Moral of the story schedule harder. Also watch for the Long Beach Stt,Creighton, and Gtown because those schools are dangerously close to dropping out of the top 100 rpi which woud change those nitty gritty numbers big time


LAST 4 IN: TULSA, GONZAGA, SETON HALL, VIRGINIA COMMONWEALTH
LAST 4 OUT: BUTLER, GEORGE WASHINGTON, OREGON STATE, SAINT BONAVENTURE
 
I think you drastically underestimate some teams already being in. From the original post listing 33 teams "on the bubble" there are 19 open spots for at large bids since your autobids + already in only adds up to 49 (68 teams get in). It's far more like at least 10 of those teams are likely already in.

Also not sure how you can note Michigan almost has a must win vs Wisconsin to get in this weekend. Michigan could lose by 20 vs Wisconsin and still get to the 7 or 8 seed line. If they beat Iowa and win a single game in the BTT they will have 22 wins including 4 vs RPI top 50 teams to go along with an 11-7 conference record. Michigan can probably clinch a spot with a single win in any of their next 3 games (@Wisconsin, vs Iowa, and opening game in Big Ten tourney).
 
Shouldn't "IN" mean no matter what happens the rest of the way they are in....meaning lose last 3 regular season games and the conference tourney and they are still in.

on a separate note...the Gazelle Group and Fox Sports3 are running a tournament to identify the worst D1 school. If you win you go home and if you lose you have to keep playing. 64 teams are required to participate to keep NCAA status and games are to be played at the Jersey City armory (site of our loss to St. Peters 10 years ago).

Currently Rutgers is in the tourney barring a win the rest of the way. Looking at ratings (they use ken pom) right now we are looking at a 13th seed and could play McNeese State on Thursday at 930PM. Season ticket holders lose a priority for every game they don't buy a ticket. Tickets are $25, but parking is free.
 
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I have been doing this for years and have always been conservative when putting teams in as locks. We still are more than two weeks away. Next week when I go to the pecking order analysis then you will see schools like South Carolina or Purdue locked in

Michigan is no lock...they need a quality win for sure. They need to win at Wisky because if they do not the margin of error is slim. If they don't beat Iowa or Wisky they would then fall to just 3-10 vs top 50 and 4-11 vs top 100, that latter number is particular troublesome....so if they lose to a Nebby in the first round of the B10, hey leave themselves vulnerable to being left out. Its huge there are no bad losses for them but they are clearly weak in the top 100 win total, winning at Wisconsin will all but put them in as a near lock. Losing these next two yes solidifies them as a bubble school and even that first round win wouldn't necessarily lock them in
 
Shouldn't "IN" mean no matter what happens the rest of the way they are in....meaning lose last 3 regular season games and the conference tourney and they are still in.

on a separate note...the Gazelle Group and Fox Sports3 are running a tournament to identify the worst D1 school. If you win you go home and if you lose you have to keep playing. 64 teams are required to participate to keep NCAA status and games are to be played at the Jersey City armory (site of our loss to St. Peters 10 years ago).

Currently Rutgers is in the tourney barring a win the rest of the way. Looking at ratings (they use ken pom) right now we are looking at a 13th seed and could play McNeese State on Thursday at 930PM. Season ticket holders lose a priority for every game they don't buy a ticket. Tickets are $25, but parking is free.


yes IN means IN...so I don't give that out lightly....the last 4 in/last 4 out lines are completely different and are projected as if the field was set today
 
Michigan has a rpi of 50 should they lose the next 2 its going to drop into the 50s...good luck with a 7-8 seed..more like a 10...and if they lose that first round B10 game and are still fortunate to get in, look for them in that play in game
 
Michigan has a rpi of 50 should they lose the next 2 its going to drop into the 50s...good luck with a 7-8 seed..more like a 10...and if they lose that first round B10 game and are still fortunate to get in, look for them in that play in game

I said Michigan could lose to Wisconsin and then beat Iowa and a BTT game and get to the 7/8 seed. I didn't say they could lose both games and do that. You said Wisconsin was almost a must win for Michigan to get into the tourney which I find kinda laughable. If Michigan lost every game the rest of the season they would still have a resume that has never seen a Big Ten school miss the tourney.
 
well obviously you want to be a smart ass and parse every word. Its a must win because if they win it they don't have to face the enormous pressure of having to beat Iowa and I don't think they will beat Iowa. So Michigan will be talked about as a bubble team heading into the NCAA tourney if they lose the last 2. I love the win over Maryland, that's big time and that will ultimately send them in but say a Ohio State goes on a run and makes the Big 10 finals or even wins the whole thing. That's something that could hurt Michigan or we get a left field team winning the SEC tourney like Ole Miss.

Wisconsin has now passed Michigan in the ncaa pecking order. As of now you are safely in but I wouldn't be so confident right now given that woeful top 100 rpi mark
 
Well done! Still have to wonder how bad was the situation at Louisville for them to walk away this year. Nice win over Pitt last night. Don't quite understand the Michigan has to win when Pitt appears to be in even a more vicarious position. Think Michigan is safely in.

The collapse of VCU is shocking. Dayton has not been much better. St. Joes appears safe but GW, St. Bonnie and now even Davidson have to be considered.

AAC is super tough to call with UConn, Temple, Tulsa, Cincy and yes Houston should be in the bubble conversation.

PAC 12 fascinating as well. Think Colorado punched ticket last night. Bill Walton mocking East Coast bias in rankings and bracketologists was classic last night. Washington, Oregon State and even good old UCLA still alive.

Think Creighton is indeed gone but it did open door for Marquette. Agree with BAC on SHU v Providence. Feels like a play in game. Butler still lurking too.

All this stuff is the cool and the one thing college football lacks.
 
And just found out that NCAA selection show will be two hours!!! Yikes! Imagine if you are on bubble and among last 16 in last half hour.
 
Well done! Still have to wonder how bad was the situation at Louisville for them to walk away this year. Nice win over Pitt last night. Don't quite understand the Michigan has to win when Pitt appears to be in even a more vicarious position. Think Michigan is safely in.

The collapse of VCU is shocking. Dayton has not been much better. St. Joes appears safe but GW, St. Bonnie and now even Davidson have to be considered.

AAC is super tough to call with UConn, Temple, Tulsa, Cincy and yes Houston should be in the bubble conversation.

PAC 12 fascinating as well. Think Colorado punched ticket last night. Bill Walton mocking East Coast bias in rankings and bracketologists was classic last night. Washington, Oregon State and even good old UCLA still alive.

Think Creighton is indeed gone but it did open door for Marquette. Agree with BAC on SHU v Providence. Feels like a play in game. Butler still lurking too.

All this stuff is the cool and the one thing college football lacks.

Pitt is going to have to win over Duke or they themselves uncertain just like Michigan and probably in worse shape

Houston and especially Davidson just do not have the wins and given the plethora of bubble schools in their conferences with much better wins, rpis and resumes, the only way these schools dance is if they win their conference tournaments
 
Grand Canyon is 24-4 and 2nd place in the WAC. Rhode at the time was still decent. Not horrible losses.
 
well obviously you want to be a smart ass and parse every word. Its a must win because if they win it they don't have to face the enormous pressure of having to beat Iowa and I don't think they will beat Iowa. So Michigan will be talked about as a bubble team heading into the NCAA tourney if they lose the last 2. I love the win over Maryland, that's big time and that will ultimately send them in but say a Ohio State goes on a run and makes the Big 10 finals or even wins the whole thing. That's something that could hurt Michigan or we get a left field team winning the SEC tourney like Ole Miss.

Wisconsin has now passed Michigan in the ncaa pecking order. As of now you are safely in but I wouldn't be so confident right now given that woeful top 100 rpi mark

I'm not being a smart ass, I'm saying a game isn't a must win if you can lose it and still be comfortably in the tourney. Joe Lunardi just said Michigan could lose out and would still probably be in. Michigan's resume right now is 1 loss outside the RPI top 50, 10+ wins in conference, and 3 RPI top 25 wins.

edit: well apparently Joey Brackets changed his mind. I still think 3 top 25 wins and only 1 loss outside the top 50 (@OSU) combined with 20+ overall wins and 10+ conference wins should be good enough. No Big Ten team has ever missed the tourney with those criteria and I'm not sure any major conference team has. Michigan gets knocked for only having 5 top 100 wins, but they've only played 3 total games against teams 50-100 and gone 2-1 in those games. 3 great wins, nothing even close to a bad loss, and it's usually plenty good. We shall see.
 
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They close with 3 games they should win which would give them 22 and hard to keep out.

But they still have to do it.

Abysmal shooting last night for them----I think they missed their first 12 3's but give The Hall credit as they defend well.

The Whitehead kid was really good last night-------he should come back for 1 more year but he can play.
 
Think the big ten is sure of 6...Michigan is the one on the fence

Ohio state has a lot to do.
 
Recapping last night...

Big win for Seton Hall last night over PC that moves them out of the last 4 in line and further up the pecking order. I still think they may need another win preferably of course Xavier or Butler but the De Paul win may do it too. Providence meanwhile despite their strong OOC stuff is just 7-8 in the BE with 3 games left against sisters of the poor in the BE...they cannot afford to slip up.

Florida State lost to Duke virtually ending their chances

UConn clouted USF to remain on the right side of the bubble

Cal is probably good to go with the win over UCLA which puts the Bruins chances on life support at best

USC got beat up by Stanford...not a good loss for the Trojans who are going to need to beat Cal this weekend to stay safe.

Gonzaga, BYU and St Mary's all got needed wins in WCC play


LAST 4 IN: GONZAGA, VIRGINIA COMMONWEALTH, TULSA, CINCINNATI
LAST 4 OUT: OREGON STATE, BUTLER, GEORGE WASHINGTON, SAINT BONAVENTURE
 
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