Black Knight Invitational
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Sounds like Fongaro wrestled Bartlett tough but had to MFF later. Any word on what happened to him?
Clark’s Runner-Up Finish Highlights Action at Black Knight Invitational
Clark’s Runner-Up Finish Highlights Action at Black Knight Invitational - Rutgers University Athletics
WEST POINT, N.Y. – No. 17 Rutgers wrestling sent six attached student athletes to the 2024 Black Knight Invitational on Sunday in West Point, New York. Andrew Clark
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Shayne Van Ness is a machine on another level from everyone at 149. Go SVN
Yeah wish his dad’s connection to RU was strong enough where he woulda went here…
Yup. Pretty pathetic that Rod thought so little of RU that he sent his son to Penn State.
I’m actually shocked anyone on this board would route for Shayne or Rod at this point.
I’m actually shocked anyone on this board would route for Shayne or Rod at this point.
I agree with your first sentence, but I will not root for a Jersey kid with RU wrestling ties who wrestles for PSU.
As a die hard Rutgers fan, if you have a choice between starting 4 years at Penn State and 4 years at Rutgers, with all other things being equal and you choose Rutgers, you’re an idiot.
You just called Anthony Ashnault an idiot.
Shayne Van Ness is a really good wrestler who is an even better person. His parents told him his choice of college will be his first decision he the will make without parental influence, He turned down Princeton, Rutgers, and Cornell. You have to respect the manner his parents are raising him.
Ashnault wanted to stay closer to his family which is a big factor for some recruits, so not all things equal in that situation. He is the most important wrestler in school history and I’m grateful he chose to come here.
That said, look at the career trajectories of Ashnault and Retheford who were basically equals up until college.
Theres absolutely no question that you will become a better wrestler at Penn State than Rutgers, or really anywhere for that matter. That’s not always the determining factor for which school you want to go to though.
I just don’t understand why we’d even bring up a kid who grew up around this program and thumbed his nose at it to go to PSU, much less root for the kid.
We just look small time and weak…
We just look small time and weak…
I get the whole Penn St aura of greatness, great coaching, etc and I understand that all these wrestlers believe in themselves and their abilities. With that said there are only 60 or so D1 teams and 33 qualiying spots. You only get 4 years (assuming no RS or Covid) to do this and I would want to compete for as much of that as possible. If you are not a top 5 level guy at PSU you are most likely not starting with few exceptions.
If I am Cochran, Facundo, Nagao, etc I am losing valuable time in being able to start and wrestle now. Sometimes you need to understand the situation and be realistic. There are a lot of schools that could use these other guys, they would start and still be top 10 level (ie Bear Claw).
Also dont love the entire religious cult culture there but thats a different topic.
I guess to each their own just think its bad for wrestling and limits what we get to see play out nationally.
If I am Cochran, Facundo, Nagao, etc I am losing valuable time in being able to start and wrestle now. Sometimes you need to understand the situation and be realistic. There are a lot of schools that could use these other guys, they would start and still be top 10 level (ie Bear Claw).
Also dont love the entire religious cult culture there but thats a different topic.
I guess to each their own just think its bad for wrestling and limits what we get to see play out nationally.
So if you go anywhere besides Penn State, you will not realize your full potential? I completely disagree with you.
No one said you couldn't reach your full potential somewhere other than Penn State, but the opportunities to get the best available training exist more at the top schools that have the top coaches and training partners. Duh. Remember this while following Bo Bassett's college choice. He already listed his criteria, which included those attributes. It appears he and Jax may be going together. Okie State and Iowa are looking strong for them, but Penn State will never be a big surprise from any guys like them.
From what I remember being said in this forum, his mother didn't want him staying close to home because of influences from his circle of friends. Maybe not entirely his choice, but I suspect he would have chosen Penn State anyway.
I wouldn’t say that. There’s a ton of variables including how many years you’d project to be a starter. But if you think there’s another school who develops better than they do you’re crazy. I hate the school with every fiber of my being but their wrestling program is one of the most elite programs of any school sport in the country, and there’s really not a close gap between them and #2
I think you would all agree that there may not be a more dedicated to the program than me. Yes I was sad when Shayne picked PSU over RU. Rod and Shayne are dear friends so I am rooting for him to win the NCAAs.
Hmm maybe Shayne will ride the PSU shitliner over here if what Crackers said is true.. lol
Davis, Kasak and Gibson are the only three that makes sense but, Gibson I don't believe is a Suriano type of wrestler, would be great if he was though
It's definitely not him. The kid that is leaving is more accomplished in college than VanNess.
Not many on PSU's roster fit that description.
Van Ness finished 3rd at the NCAAs two years ago. Kasak finished 3rd last year. Their accomplishments in college are a wash.
Sealey has not wrestled yet in college. Lilledahl? In your wildest wet dreams only.
I believe Kasak will be the starting 157 this year at PSU over Facundo though both will get matches and a chance to prove themselves this year before tournament time.
Levi Haines looks like the only wrestler with a redshirt that has finished higher than 3rd at the NCAAs previously.
Listening to the pre/post match interviews with Van Ness, Haines, and Lilledahl, this year so far, I would be shocked if any of them left the PSU program to go East.
You are swinging for the fences with these predictions. My guess is you aren't even making the warning track.
Give it a rest with the stupid talk. The only one more accomplished than Van Ness that STILL has a redshirt is Levi Haines. You're smoking crack if that's who you are telling people is leaving PSU.
The kid skipped his senior year of HS to move to State College and train with DT's club M2. If Levi were going anywhere he'd be going to OSU
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And by saying more accomplished he gave it away now . It can't be Kasak because he was 3rd once and so was Van Ness. Not knocking on Rutgers but if Levi hit the portal Iowa and Oklahoma st would offer him more $ than Rutgers could. If Levi ever left Penn st my guess would be that Oklahoma st would get him. I find this all comical
All makes sense now. After practice he called Cracker and told him I'm leaving and coming to Rutgers
Yeah..stupid talk...I was right about Camp, Suriano, and Cooperman. Even with all the harsh criticism I received, I stuck to my convictions.My source is beyond in the know about wrestling rumors. He is on point with everything.The one guy I was semi wrong about was Deprez.He was gonna come, but backed out last minute.Stupid talk? What's your pedigree my friend? You have NJ State champ and NCAA All American after your name, like me? Highly doubt it. People like you get pissed because I'm right about everything I say.Janzer was a flop, so was Aragona.I said it from the beginning they wouldn't last and they didn't. I will eat crow if this does happen, meanwhile you can go back to being an armless proctologist.
Don't you have some posies to go pick in the fruitcake forest? You sound like another penn state butt sniffing troll. It's not haines by the way. He'll have his fun rolling around with sanderson for the next couple years.
Well no one on penn st has more accolades then Van Ness who has a RS and eligibility. Many here know me and I'm not a Penn st fan Anthony. Kasak and Van Ness were both 3rd once . Kasak has a RS but not better results
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@RUCrackers either you’re dumb or made a mistake in your criteria. If you made a mistake then maybe clarify it.
You said..better accolades than SVN (that means guys that placed higher than 3rd). You also said this wrestler has a RS available.
The ONLY PSU wrestler that fits that mold is Levi
I didn’t wrestle, I played football in HS and College and have my share of “accolades”. That being said, I’m 54 yrs old and my old accolades don’t support my family and really mean squat at this point of my life other than the times me and the boys get together and bring up the “good ole days”. Stop living in the past my friend.
I usually like your posts. Just find this stupid talk just make you look like the guy from years ago that claimed Cenzo and Cassar were coming to RU.
You said..better accolades than SVN (that means guys that placed higher than 3rd). You also said this wrestler has a RS available.
The ONLY PSU wrestler that fits that mold is Levi
I didn’t wrestle, I played football in HS and College and have my share of “accolades”. That being said, I’m 54 yrs old and my old accolades don’t support my family and really mean squat at this point of my life other than the times me and the boys get together and bring up the “good ole days”. Stop living in the past my friend.
I usually like your posts. Just find this stupid talk just make you look like the guy from years ago that claimed Cenzo and Cassar were coming to RU.
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Well, if we're gonna compare knowledge and insider info,I'm gonna definitely bring up my accolades if you're gonna insult me. I could be wrong about better records and accomplishments. My apologies on that, but I can definitely guarantee you a Penn State and Iowa big deal set of wrestlers are coming here. Let me ask you a question.Have I ever been wrong? Outside of a 197 lber that I was semi wrong about( he was actually going to come but backed out) name something I was wrong about or said that never came true.I was right about Cooperman, Mario Mason, Suriano, Camp, Janzer, Aragona. I even knew we were gonna get Bulsak before the coaches.I just wasn't a 100%.sure thats why I didnt say anything.I am dead set on with this one though. Penn State kid is high level and so is the Iowa kid.The other 2 Penn State kids are very good, but not top 3 material.All American, Round of 12, yes.In a perfect world if we got all 4 of these guys and Bo Bassett we would be a bona-fide top 5 team, all day any day.Plus I heard a very good heavy weight is going into the transfer portal from a Midwest team that is a potential AA,with at least 2 years of eligibility and Rutgers is one of his top picks. After season you will change your tone towards me..trust me on this one.
Some of the biggest insiders in the sport don't have D1 accolades. Being an AA doesn't make you an insider. Time will tell . But I will bet anything you want that Rutgers doesn't get 3 Penn st wrestlers and a Iowa wrestler
It definitely lends me to resources and wrestling circled that I wouldn't have if I was a regular Joe.Like I said, I haven't been wrong and I feel very confident about this.
Ok. So if the guys you mention happen to be backups at PSU, then sure there’s a possibility kids leave (same as any other program). With your initial statement and criteria, that’s why I jumped on the “stupid talk” comment. I wasn’t sayin you were stupid just that the comments were.
Like I said, I generally like your posts, you generally call it like you see it. And yeah..if you were breaking down a match or giving technical instruction about wrestling, I would defer to you as an expert. But when it comes to spouting off rumors..not so much.
I guess my take on this is (and I do have a few friends with kids on D1 teams) even if I had that “insider” info, I wouldn’t share it. 1. It could make things awkward for the wrestler/wrestlers in question if it got out. 2. Just not my thing to try to break someone else’s news especially how things/plans change.
Truthfully I don’t recall your other predictions about the guys you mentioned. If you are the guy that spread the Cenzo/Cassar rumors than I wouldn’t take your words worth a grain of salt. I don’t think it was you though. This was years ago before Suriano even steppped on campus.
Run on sentences, multiple periods as if to say he is pausing to think while typing (……) poor grammar and capitalization is off. I would say he’s back!!!
Okay these guys are not backups. The one main guy that's coming is a top flight wrestler from penn state. The other two that are considering leaving are blue chip recruits. The guy from iowa is also a top flight wrestler. I have never been wrong about rumors. That's what these message boards are for. Also I haven't named who it is,so how can people possibly be concerned? Listen, if Anthony Ashnault had transferred out his junior year to Penn State,that message board would be blowing up all over the place and throwing it in our faces. I have named over a 1/2 a dozen things that have come true with this program.I was only wrong about one. Unfortunately, people play on that because that's the only thing they have. Deep down inside they know i'm right. No I definitely didn't talk about Cassar, and Cenzo. I"m not just gonna arbitrarily makeup something just make it up. That's not fair to families and wrestlers.
Most people who have inside info don’t argue up and down trying to defend it.
I do not believe a word of it, just like I don’t believe he was an all American wrestler or was taking made up classes at Rutgers. May have gotten some things right in the past, but there have been plenty of lies and wrong predictions since.
I do not believe a word of it, just like I don’t believe he was an all American wrestler or was taking made up classes at Rutgers. May have gotten some things right in the past, but there have been plenty of lies and wrong predictions since.
I have spoken to members on here in person. Quite a few. I inboxed them and told who I was, offered up my email and swapped phone numbers. They were skeptical like everyone else and were happy to know I wasnt bullshitting.I'm passionate about my Alma Mater, that's why I argue and put forth potential transfers.Ive been right 6 out of 7 times. You can't argue the facts.In your case, you are a snide, begrudged, nobody and look to take the slightest doubt and turn into this full blown " he is lying".Ok, we will see. I was spot on about Cooperman, Winston,Mario Mason, Camp, Suriano, Janzer and Aragona. A strong majority seem to agree with me accept for you, this guy Leonard and maybe 2 or 3 more.No problem.There are always gonna be dudes like you that no matter what people say, you find an angle to criticize.Thats on you and your own insecurities and problems. Like I said. Let's see what happens.
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