Brett McMurphy reports that FSU and group of 7 ACC Schools are exploring breaking the grant of rights agreement they have with the ACC
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oh how I will laugh my fracking a$$ off if BC gets left out.
Where’s Duke? NC State and V Tech part of magnificent 7?
All left out of the Magnificent 7
- Duke
- NC State
- VTech
- GTech
- Pitt
- Syracuse
- BC
Wake Forest
Louisville
Also left out but not really impacted if something were to happen - Notre Dame
Nobody could have predicted this!!!*
*Everyone with a pulse predicted this. Imagine how surprised the media will be when the 40 team superconference is formed and everyone else is playing intramurals.
*Everyone with a pulse predicted this. Imagine how surprised the media will be when the 40 team superconference is formed and everyone else is playing intramurals.
Clemson
Miami
FSU
UVA
VT
UNC
NCST
The group above are asking out, specifically FSU, Clemson and Miami, based on changing the revenue splits. Most of the revenue is ratings based and FSU leads in ratings, followed by Clemson and Miami.
Clemson and FSU specifically need the other 5 of the 7 to explore the breaking of the deal signed through 2036. ESPN can ultimately let them out of the deal, but legally, it would be a bad idea to do so, unless they get every dollar they are owed.
Sounds like ESPN is going to ultimately go down as the entity that ruins the ACC, after being the network that ultimately started this whole mess to begin with. They never anticipated streaming or FOX, CBS, NBC stepping forward in the last 5 years, when 15+ years ago, ESPN was pretty much the only game in town.
Miami
FSU
UVA
VT
UNC
NCST
The group above are asking out, specifically FSU, Clemson and Miami, based on changing the revenue splits. Most of the revenue is ratings based and FSU leads in ratings, followed by Clemson and Miami.
Clemson and FSU specifically need the other 5 of the 7 to explore the breaking of the deal signed through 2036. ESPN can ultimately let them out of the deal, but legally, it would be a bad idea to do so, unless they get every dollar they are owed.
Sounds like ESPN is going to ultimately go down as the entity that ruins the ACC, after being the network that ultimately started this whole mess to begin with. They never anticipated streaming or FOX, CBS, NBC stepping forward in the last 5 years, when 15+ years ago, ESPN was pretty much the only game in town.
On the surface it would appear to be a Shakespearean tragedy if the ACC's demise is directly a result of ESPN raiding the BE on multiple occasions, although I would more consider it a comedy. ESPN hubris was and will be the ACC's downfall.
And to think there are Rutgers fans who still want the ACC over the B1G to this day.
It's always been about stability and security. We knew the ACC (along with ESPiN) would never give teams that luxury since they continued to raid the Big East. ESPiN undersold the value of some programs, ignored others who could have helped, and oversold some worthless teams.
One man was primarily responsible for us being in the right conference and now a different man is responsible for keeping us there.
I doubt a school like Northwestern will be in the B1G in 10 years.
I doubt a school like Northwestern will be in the B1G in 10 years.
We’re still so far behind the 8 ball. Football needs to become competitive
Memories of the first ACC raid, and then the second
The angst of the “leave behinds” and the arrogance of those who got the golden ACC ticket
It seems so long ago and the despair of the remaining big east seemed just desperate
I must admit that if BC and the Cuse are the new “ leave behinds” I will not be upset and somewhat happy that we got the final laugh
Temple was a special situation and likely the only one to experience this event while a member of a high major/power conference. I don't see NW getting kicked out, especially as one of the original members.
Why should Ohio State get the same amount of revenue as Northwestern. These moves are all about money. Sometimes when we can't control the numerator we shift our focus to the denominator.
Northwestern has the Chicago market and Rutgers has the NJ/NY market, but if you know these schools are going 2-8 in conference and losing by 3+ TD every time they play the better schools people in those areas won't watch Rutgers. Unfortunately capturing the NJ/NY and CHI market could be best done by getting ND.
Nah - ND is a major national brand that’s popular everywhere but it’s not ever going to be viewed as a NY metro home team. It’s an everywhere team. From a market perspective, RU and NW are apples and oranges anyway. NW a tiny school with Illinois only what - an hour away?
We’re the only metro NY school with a D1 football program outside of Army. Geography is our friend in a major way.
I'm expecting Miami to end up in the B1G if the B1G goes after a FL school personally. Culturally The U aligns more with the Northeast and therefore the B1G with its student body and alumni base primarily from NJ/NY/Boston/Philly. Culture fit is extremely important when it comes to expansion as you want schools that align with the conference as a whole.
Agree re Miami being a better culture fit
money rules a day though, so nothing that’s going to happen will surprise me
ESPN didn’t ruin anything. The ACC wanted their own network, which ESPN really didn’t support, so this was the deal that ESPN negotiated in order to give the ACC their network. It is not their fault that the ACC now has buyer’s remorse, and they have no reason to renegotiate this deal or see it dissolved.
Miami is private, relatively small (12k undergrads, bigger only than Northwestern). They've been largely irrelevant in football for decades, and don't have an on-campus arena. They're not even the largest brand in Florida.
Other than their research and a brand from several decades ago as winners, I don't see how they fit the B1G mold at all.
But but but…the turnover chain lol
While I agree they haven’t been good - the media always finds a way to make them relevant.
While I agree they haven’t been good - the media always finds a way to make them relevant.
If it happens we'll be in the Big Ten in 48 hours.
FSU wants the SEC IMO and if I had to choose between Miami or Georgia Tech, I'm choosing Miami (FL/MIA market over ATL market).
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FWIW McMurphy hasn’t been right about anything in a long time.
Why should Ohio State make the same amount of revenue as anyone but Michigan? I can’t imagine a two team conference being terribly appealing to them.
That’d be true of most major cities.
But ND cannot be branded as metro NY’s football school. ND’s addition to the conference would not diminish the viewer home run potential in the Tri State area should RU ever field a competitive team. NW is a small private school. There’s limited band wagon fan potential there which is what gives your theory that they could one day be at risk legs. Nobody except their alums and students care if they have a good year in football. 2006 suggests that’s not the case with Rutgers.
Moreso.
There is no doubt that NJ/NY would get behind a successful Rutgers football team. I just have a tough time envisioning that happening in todays environment
I don’t know the answer to this - I wonder what the ratio of ND fans to PSU fans is in Philly?
Why do we have this same debate every few years? Dozens of posters have linked articles with statistics showing Rutgers, when successful or in general, out class all other football programs claiming to have a large presence in the tri-state area.
That was the last time we were good. The point is that there’s proof that NJ/NY will support a good RU team. There’s no question we’re the local flagship. NW is not.
Things felt pretty hopeless for our basketball future before Pike arrived. Things change.
On point!
I do recall several B1G schools saying Rutgers wasn't worthy of the money they could earn in the B1G. That tune changed when the new media deal twas announced. All those comma and zeros quiet down the peanut gallery.
2006 was not the last time we were good. 2006 was the last time we were *elite*. That's different.
Just stop.
NW went 10-3 in 2017. They won the BIG West in 2018 (9 win season). Nobody in Chicago cared.
Outside of that 2006 team, we have not had any teams with comparable success to this. That’s what I meant by “good”. If we had a 10-3 season in the BIG Rutgers would be majorly hyped throughout the area.
Metro New Yorkers who don’t otherwise follow much college football support us when we’re good.
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It is a lot easier for someone to invest in the basketball program where there is success. It will be very difficult for people to take a blind leap of faith to throw a lot of money at a football program that just doesn’t seem headed in the right direction.
