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But What if The Previews Are Wrong Again?

Most of the college football previews just look at the prior season. "Wash rinse repeat" except for the top 10-15. ( And Notre dame is always a contender. Even when Charlie was the coach ).
 
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We have a new OC with a pass first offensive style, a QB weak roster, minus Carroo a very weak WR roster, a defense that was absymal last year, no proven punter or kicker, and a defense that may never see a healthy again Darius Hamilton or Kemoko Turay. Oh plus 3 linebackers who have about 1 tackle between the 3 of them, lol. As a 4 decade season ticket holder, I'm having a hard time seeing how we exceed the 4 1/2 game over/under total, lol
But I will be there for every home game, tailgating like it's the National Championship game, each and every game , like I have been since 1971 ! Where's Nate Toran and JJ Jennings when we need them !? lol
 
We have a new OC with a pass first offensive style, a QB weak roster, minus Carroo a very weak WR roster, a defense that was absymal last year, no proven punter or kicker, and a defense that may never see a healthy again Darius Hamilton or Kemoko Turay. Oh plus 3 linebackers who have about 1 tackle between the 3 of them, lol. As a 4 decade season ticket holder, I'm having a hard time seeing how we exceed the 4 1/2 game over/under total, lol
But I will be there for every home game, tailgating like it's the National Championship game, each and every game , like I have been since 1971 ! Where's Nate Toran and JJ Jennings when we need them !? lol

Nowhere to go but up. Flood and Co should have won at least 6 last year.
 
We have a new OC with a pass first offensive style, a QB weak roster, minus Carroo a very weak WR roster, a defense that was absymal last year, no proven punter or kicker, and a defense that may never see a healthy again Darius Hamilton or Kemoko Turay. Oh plus 3 linebackers who have about 1 tackle between the 3 of them, lol. As a 4 decade season ticket holder, I'm having a hard time seeing how we exceed the 4 1/2 game over/under total, lol
But I will be there for every home game, tailgating like it's the National Championship game, each and every game , like I have been since 1971 ! Where's Nate Toran and JJ Jennings when we need them !? lol
Here's how if Ash has it going on game day:

Howard- no need to explain

New Mexico State- offense is good, but defense is suspect even though they return most of their starters. Not a good road team. They struggle against team who run the ball well. They don't have the size or depth to survive the pounding.

Illinois- solid QB, but the top receiver and RB coming off major injuries just like Hamilton. Defense has questions due to a lack of depth and quality starters. They struggle away from home. Not close to being head and shoulders above Rutgers.

Maryland- the defense decided to leave. They lost most of the defense. The secondary loss 2 starters to the NFL. The DL is all but gone. OL is solid, but the QB play is worse than Rutgers. RB position took a hit in the depth department. This team has more questions than Rutgers.

Indiana- Stud QB and RB have departed as well as one of your top 2 OL. Also, their top DL decided to leave early for the NFL. Secondary is worse than Rutgers and Rutgers get them home. Have they won against Rutgers since Rutgers joined the B1G? Every year the pundits pick them over Rutgers, yet they find ways to lose. They don't recruit well enough to survive the loss of major players.

Penn State- DL, like Maryland left in a hurry. OL is still suspect and they will be without a 4 yr starter at QB. The new QB is not close to Hackenberg's level. PSU top receiver (Geno Lewis) transferred to Oklahoma at the end of last season. Everything isn't rosy in Happy Valley

I could go on and throw Minnesota into the debate because they have issues that must be addressed if they expect to reach .500 this year.
 
We have a new OC with a pass first offensive style, a QB weak roster, minus Carroo a very weak WR roster, a defense that was absymal last year, no proven punter or kicker, and a defense that may never see a healthy again Darius Hamilton or Kemoko Turay. Oh plus 3 linebackers who have about 1 tackle between the 3 of them, lol. As a 4 decade season ticket holder, I'm having a hard time seeing how we exceed the 4 1/2 game over/under total, lol
But I will be there for every home game, tailgating like it's the National Championship game, each and every game , like I have been since 1971 ! Where's Nate Toran and JJ Jennings when we need them !? lol

This is not a pass first system. Quite the opposite actually. And we now have 2 QBs that can effectively run the football the way they need to to add that dimension to the offense.
 
Penn State- DL, like Maryland left in a hurry. OL is still suspect and they will be without a 4 yr starter at QB. The new QB is not close to Hackenberg's level. PSU top receiver (Geno Lewis) transferred to Oklahoma at the end of last season. Everything isn't rosy in Happy Valley.

We certainly have our questions coming into the season but WR is not one of them. Our top receiver from last year was Chris Godwin and from 2014 was DaeSean Hamilton; both are back. Saeed Blacknall has apparently been making major strides this off season and many are predicting a breakout year. Geno made some big plays but his production was very inconsistent. So while losing him hurt it doesn't mean we have questions at that position. We have a good mix of proven production and potential this year.

In order our questions are at OL, DL, QB, LB depth.

OL will continue to be a question mark until they prove not to be. With the maturation of some of the highly regarded recruits there will at least be competition along the OL this season. Hopefully a new offense with a simplified blocking scheme will allow the OL to function as a cohesive unit.

DL lost a ton of production so it will be interesting to see if the new guys can step in and be effective, especially at stopping the run. I wouldn't say they "left in a hurry" though. 2 guys graduated and one guy was selected in the 2nd round (pick 43).

Losing a 3yr (not 4) starter in Hack means there is competition for the starting QB spot but both potential starters played well in the spring game. It's only a practice game but it's the most recent data point we have and it was positive so there's reason to hope. McSorely also played fairly well against Georgia in our bowl game.

Our starters at LB are as good as anyone in the conference but our depth lacks experience. Suffering an injury at LB is a probably the thing that turns our season south the fastest. There's probably a lot of recency bias here because of the Temple game last year. Up 10-0 the starting middle LB goes down and Temple scores 27 straight. We had other issues that game but it sure felt like a turning point when he went down.

In my mind our season will come down to how fast the OL and DL can answer their question marks.

In terms of a PSU v RU matchup at this point it seems like we both have issues along the lines. Although I would take our situation over yours so I expect us to win this game. It will be interesting to see how the season plays out.
 
We certainly have our questions coming into the season but WR is not one of them. Our top receiver from last year was Chris Godwin and from 2014 was DaeSean Hamilton; both are back. Saeed Blacknall has apparently been making major strides this off season and many are predicting a breakout year. Geno made some big plays but his production was very inconsistent. So while losing him hurt it doesn't mean we have questions at that position. We have a good mix of proven production and potential this year.

In order our questions are at OL, DL, QB, LB depth.

OL will continue to be a question mark until they prove not to be. With the maturation of some of the highly regarded recruits there will at least be competition along the OL this season. Hopefully a new offense with a simplified blocking scheme will allow the OL to function as a cohesive unit.

DL lost a ton of production so it will be interesting to see if the new guys can step in and be effective, especially at stopping the run. I wouldn't say they "left in a hurry" though. 2 guys graduated and one guy was selected in the 2nd round (pick 43).

Losing a 3yr (not 4) starter in Hack means there is competition for the starting QB spot but both potential starters played well in the spring game. It's only a practice game but it's the most recent data point we have and it was positive so there's reason to hope. McSorely also played fairly well against Georgia in our bowl game.

Our starters at LB are as good as anyone in the conference but our depth lacks experience. Suffering an injury at LB is a probably the thing that turns our season south the fastest. There's probably a lot of recency bias here because of the Temple game last year. Up 10-0 the starting middle LB goes down and Temple scores 27 straight. We had other issues that game but it sure felt like a turning point when he went down.

In my mind our season will come down to how fast the OL and DL can answer their question marks.

In terms of a PSU v RU matchup at this point it seems like we both have issues along the lines. Although I would take our situation over yours so I expect us to win this game. It will be interesting to see how the season plays out.
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Our DL returns all 4 starters and consists of 3 5th year seniors and a RS junior as the starters. Grown ass men playing up front. Our issue is at LB and it's a big one.

On O, obviously we don't know who the QB will be in the new system so that's a huge issue. But again, OL has 3 fifth year seniors and a 4th year junior who is primed for a breakout season so while I'm concerned about depth, I'm not worried about our stsrting 5 across the OL. But QB isaquestion mark. As for WRs in this new offense in not concerned. If we were still running a pro set I'd be more worried. We have athletes/playmakers.
 
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This is not a pass first system. Quite the opposite actually. And we now have 2 QBs that can effectively run the football the way they need to to add that dimension to the offense.

I'm not sure you are correct. The last time Mehringer was an Off Coord was when he was at James Madison in 2014 (he was the WR coach at Houston) and at James Madison in 2014 they threw MORE than they ran. Until we get into October , I don't really think we will know what kind of offense we have.
http://jmusports.com/custompages/stats/football/2014/teamcume.htm
 
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I'm not sure you are correct. The last time Mehringer was an Off Coord was when he was at James Madison in 2014 (he was the WR coach at Houston) and at James Madison in 2014 they threw MORE than they ran. Until we get into October , I don't really think we will know what kind of offense we have.
http://jmusports.com/custompages/stats/football/2014/teamcume.htm

Coaches adapt the to what they have. If we were stuck with QBs who couldn't get the edge like Laviano or Rettig I'm sure we'd throw more. With Allen and Oden we'd probably be more run heavy.
 
We have a new OC with a pass first offensive style, a QB weak roster, minus Carroo a very weak WR roster, a defense that was absymal last year, no proven punter or kicker, and a defense that may never see a healthy again Darius Hamilton or Kemoko Turay. Oh plus 3 linebackers who have about 1 tackle between the 3 of them, lol. As a 4 decade season ticket holder, I'm having a hard time seeing how we exceed the 4 1/2 game over/under total, lol
But I will be there for every home game, tailgating like it's the National Championship game, each and every game , like I have been since 1971 ! Where's Nate Toran and JJ Jennings when we need them !? lol
Pretty much sums it up. I think there is a good majority of Rutgers fans who are just unrealistic. We have a completely new program which is building from the ground up. Look it took Brian Kelly until his 3rd year to finally get his QB (Golson) and start recruting his players. Ash will need a few years to repair what Flood absolutely destroyed. Will we have some surprises win? Maybe but anyone who thinks we're going to come out and prove people wrong and win 8 games just don't know anything about sports. When you HC says our "LB's are a mess" you know it's going to be tough. Give it some time and be positive, but don't be a complete homer.
 
It would have been nice if the writer of that article knew we played 8 conference games in 2014. We would have been 4-4 not 4-3 if weverything beat PSU.
 
Pretty much sums it up. I think there is a good majority of Rutgers fans who are just unrealistic. We have a completely new program which is building from the ground up. Look it took Brian Kelly until his 3rd year to finally get his QB (Golson) and start recruting his players. Ash will need a few years to repair what Flood absolutely destroyed. Will we have some surprises win? Maybe but anyone who thinks we're going to come out and prove people wrong and win 8 games just don't know anything about sports. When you HC says our "LB's are a mess" you know it's going to be tough. Give it some time and be positive, but don't be a complete homer.

Predicting 5-7 (one game better than 2015) and a possible 6th win if we upset a team isn't too far fetched IMO.
 
Our cornerbacks are at least a year away. Secondary will be big concern. Quarterback is an unknown, but we have stud running backs and serviceable receivers. We also have a new head coach who never served in that capacity (although Flood was able to pull of a great debut, so who knows?)

I would sign up for Cubbuffsdog's prediction, including a win over Penn State, but I think that we are realisitically looking at 3 or 4 wins.

But as Abro said, I'm just going to enjoy the whole game day experience this year - great setting, great fans, great match ups. I love the B1G!

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We certainly have our questions coming into the season but WR is not one of them. Our top receiver from last year was Chris Godwin and from 2014 was DaeSean Hamilton; both are back. Saeed Blacknall has apparently been making major strides this off season and many are predicting a breakout year. Geno made some big plays but his production was very inconsistent. So while losing him hurt it doesn't mean we have questions at that position. We have a good mix of proven production and potential this year.

In order our questions are at OL, DL, QB, LB depth.

OL will continue to be a question mark until they prove not to be. With the maturation of some of the highly regarded recruits there will at least be competition along the OL this season. Hopefully a new offense with a simplified blocking scheme will allow the OL to function as a cohesive unit.

DL lost a ton of production so it will be interesting to see if the new guys can step in and be effective, especially at stopping the run. I wouldn't say they "left in a hurry" though. 2 guys graduated and one guy was selected in the 2nd round (pick 43).

Losing a 3yr (not 4) starter in Hack means there is competition for the starting QB spot but both potential starters played well in the spring game. It's only a practice game but it's the most recent data point we have and it was positive so there's reason to hope. McSorely also played fairly well against Georgia in our bowl game.

Our starters at LB are as good as anyone in the conference but our depth lacks experience. Suffering an injury at LB is a probably the thing that turns our season south the fastest. There's probably a lot of recency bias here because of the Temple game last year. Up 10-0 the starting middle LB goes down and Temple scores 27 straight. We had other issues that game but it sure felt like a turning point when he went down.

In my mind our season will come down to how fast the OL and DL can answer their question marks.

In terms of a PSU v RU matchup at this point it seems like we both have issues along the lines. Although I would take our situation over yours so I expect us to win this game. It will be interesting to see how the season plays out.

Good post. But you know more about PSU than RU judging by your last paragraph which is to be expected.
 
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We have a new OC with a pass first offensive style, a QB weak roster, minus Carroo a very weak WR roster, a defense that was absymal last year, no proven punter or kicker, and a defense that may never see a healthy again Darius Hamilton or Kemoko Turay. Oh plus 3 linebackers who have about 1 tackle between the 3 of them, lol. As a 4 decade season ticket holder, I'm having a hard time seeing how we exceed the 4 1/2 game over/under total, lol

Here's how if Ash has it going on game day:

Howard- no need to explain

New Mexico State- offense is good, but defense is suspect even though they return most of their starters. Not a good road team. They struggle against team who run the ball well. They don't have the size or depth to survive the pounding.

Illinois- solid QB, but the top receiver and RB coming off major injuries just like Hamilton. Defense has questions due to a lack of depth and quality starters. They struggle away from home. Not close to being head and shoulders above Rutgers.

Maryland- the defense decided to leave. They lost most of the defense. The secondary loss 2 starters to the NFL. The DL is all but gone. OL is solid, but the QB play is worse than Rutgers. RB position took a hit in the depth department. This team has more questions than Rutgers.

Indiana- Stud QB and RB have departed as well as one of your top 2 OL. Also, their top DL decided to leave early for the NFL. Secondary is worse than Rutgers and Rutgers get them home. Have they won against Rutgers since Rutgers joined the B1G? Every year the pundits pick them over Rutgers, yet they find ways to lose. They don't recruit well enough to survive the loss of major players.

Penn State- DL, like Maryland left in a hurry. OL is still suspect and they will be without a 4 yr starter at QB. The new QB is not close to Hackenberg's level. PSU top receiver (Geno Lewis) transferred to Oklahoma at the end of last season. Everything isn't rosy in Happy Valley

I could go on and throw Minnesota into the debate because they have issues that must be addressed if they expect to reach .500 this year.

I agree in a lot of ways with Abro1975 about where we are right now (and he left out the introduction of a new tackling style, new playbook on both sides of the ball, and new terminology/relationships/routine across the board). But I also agree with cubuffsdoug that our opponents also have a lot of weaknesses, which may help to mitigate some of our flaws in this first season while Ash works toward building the roster and culture the way he wants it.
 
Pretty much sums it up. I think there is a good majority of Rutgers fans who are just unrealistic. We have a completely new program which is building from the ground up. Look it took Brian Kelly until his 3rd year to finally get his QB (Golson) and start recruting his players. Ash will need a few years to repair what Flood absolutely destroyed. Will we have some surprises win? Maybe but anyone who thinks we're going to come out and prove people wrong and win 8 games just don't know anything about sports. When you HC says our "LB's are a mess" you know it's going to be tough. Give it some time and be positive, but don't be a complete homer.
Not a complete homer, but I think 6-6 is a real possibility this year. Sorry but I don't subscribe to the 4-8 and Ash is a miracle worker crowd. We went 4-8 with two close loses last year with a mess off the field and a mess(yes I'm talking coaching) on it. Did you see those defensive scheme's the last two years? I had no idea what our strategy was on that side of the ball other than to slow the opponent, rather than stop.

There is some talent on this year's squad, next year 2017 , we'll let's just say we'll be lucky to win one B1G game. The last regime's recruiting is going to finally catch up to us. IMO Howard, N. Mexico St., Minnesota, Illinois, Indiana and Maryland are not more talented than we are. They all have questions and lots of them to answer just like us. Hell you can even throw psu into that mix. If Ash is as competent as I hope he is, 6-6 is a real possibility, he inherits a veteran team with lots of returning starters.

It may not happen but IMO there's a real possibility here, I just don't see all the doom and gloom some others see. Sure we have questions to answer , but look at the other teams I mentioned they have just as many questions to answer as well. What's the fun of going into a season thinking your teams going to get their heads kicked in. Personally I can't subscribe to that type of thinking, let the pessimism rain when the loses start to mount if they ever do.
 
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I think one of the reasons why Rutgers fans always underestimate the team is because you only look at it from Rutgers perspective. Football is a game of matchups and if you don't consider what the other team has you can't get a clear picture. When I look at some people responses they have no clue what the other team has coming back or what issues they have, so how could you really say Rutgers it's only going to win X amount of games with partial information.
 
I think one of the reasons why Rutgers fans always underestimate the team is because you only look at it from Rutgers perspective. Football is a game of matchups and if you don't consider what the other team has you can't get a clear picture. When I look at some people responses they have no clue what the other team has coming back or what issues they have, so how could you really say Rutgers it's only going to win X amount of games with partial information.

Vegas also has Rutgers as a 4-5 win team, and they have as much info as anyone.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-football/story.cfm/story/1772827
 
Much like today's NFL is designed for teams to go 8-8 I feel today's college football is designed for schools to go 6-6. With an overmatched coaching staff, off the field issues and injuries/suspensions to our two best players (Carroo and Hamilton) we still managed to be two blown 4th quarter leads from reaching .500 last year. Taylor-Douglass and Marfo will add competition at corner, our safety play (and depth) will be much improved (how can it not be?) and we have a solid, much bigger DL with 3 5th year seniors starting and more depth than we've probably ever seen with guys like Wilkins, Carter, Bateky, etc. I agree LB play will be an issue even though Clayton is a superstar in the making. Tackling will only get better (again, how can it not?) and I think special teams will return to RU standards.

Again, I'm predicting 5-7 with 6-6 a real possibility. See Nebraska last year. Coaching at this level can make all the difference in the world. Look at what having a competent P5 coach on staff did for us in 2014 when the Fridge graced us with his presence. Sure the D still sucked because Rossi belongs coaching Maine but we were able to compete on the O side of the ball. I feel Ash/Neiman will have the same impact on our D and special teams this year.
 
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Predicting 5-7 (one game better than 2015) and a possible 6th win if we upset a team isn't too far fetched IMO.
Don't waste your time with him. He's a misery. Even with all of the D back issues last year we likely go 6-6 or 7-5 last year if Carroo and Hamiltin play in every game. No reason we cannot win 5-7 games this year if all goes well like it did two years ago.
 
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Not a complete homer, but I think 6-6 is a real possibility this year. Sorry but I don't subscribe to the 4-8 and Ash is a miracle worker crowd. We went 4-8 with two close loses last year with a mess off the field and a mess(yes I'm talking coaching) on it. Did you see those defensive scheme's the last two years? I had no idea what our strategy was on that side of the ball other than to slow the opponent, rather than stop.

There is some talent on this year's squad, next year 2017 , we'll let's just say we'll be lucky to win one B1G game. The last regime's recruiting is going to finally catch up to us. IMO Howard, N. Mexico St., Minnesota, Illinois, Indiana and Maryland are not more talented than we are. They all have questions and lots of them to answer just like us. Hell you can even throw psu into that mix. If Ash is as competent as I hope he is, 6-6 is a real possibility, he inherits a veteran team with lots of returning starters.

It may not happen but IMO there's a real possibility here, I just don't see all the doom and gloom some others see. Sure we have questions to answer , but look at the other teams I mentioned they have just as many questions to answer as well. What's the fun of going into a season thinking your teams going to get their heads kicked in. Personally I can't subscribe to that type of thinking, let the pessimism rain when the loses start to mount if they ever do.
That's a fair assessment. I haven't put a number on wins yet.
 
You really believe Vegas has more information? It's all about a dollar for them. They win no matter what.

And they make that dollar by having people bet both sides of the w/l margin. If more money comes in on one side over the other they eventually move the line, but this line hasn't moved. And yes, they do have more info then most bettors. Otherwise they'd be out of business, and last I looked, they were still there.
 
I think one of the reasons why Rutgers fans always underestimate the team is because you only look at it from Rutgers perspective. Football is a game of matchups and if you don't consider what the other team has you can't get a clear picture. When I look at some people responses they have no clue what the other team has coming back or what issues they have, so how could you really say Rutgers it's only going to win X amount of games with partial information.

I actually tend to slightly overestimate the team most years... and adjust much closer to reality after the first 3 games or so. I'm expecting to do the same this year.

Optimistically, all of our question marks get answered positively. Until proven otherwise, I go in fairly optimistically.

Still, though, we have a lot of questions this year.

Coaching changes are always disruptive (and we're hoping this one is too, but in a good way). Veteran players will be learning new techniques, terminology, routines, plays, etc... for all their snaps and past success, they haven't yet taken a snap in the new offense/defense that Ash is putting on the field. Their gameday experience will help them, but not as much as a veteran in a program that has had a more consistent style/staff over the prior few years. The hope is that all the changes will click very quickly, and that they race up the learning curve... but one has to expect some miscommunications, misunderstandings, and guys not hitting their marks... which should improve as the year wears on.

Beyond that, I don't think we've ever replaced the entire LB corps in one season. The DL looks stout, the secondary has some young talent but questions at depth. Overall, Ash is a defensive guy, so I'd expect a lot of focus to be put on defense... but there's still a lot of uncertainty there. Not that we're going to be bad there, just we have less of an idea of what we've got than in prior years.

On offense, we're changing the entire offensive philosophy. Guys were recruited to, and played in, a pro-style offense... and that's been the identify of Rutgers, in some shape or form, for over a decade. I can't expect the shift to a power spread is going to be like flipping a switch. The OLine has experience, but experience in a different offense - and they'll need to learn/understand the blocking schemes for Mehringer's playbook.

We don't know who our QB is, or who will be best able to run what Mehringer wants to run. It's clear that the guys on the roster on Ash's first day are not the style of QB that we're looking for going forward, just based on who's been recruited so far. That tells me that if one of them wins the job, Mehringer will be adapting his playbook to suit their strengths... and not really running the style of offense he really wants to ultimately install here. Again, just a lot of uncertainty.

I think we've got a lot of talent at WR, but not a lot of proven playmakers... and Mehringer has shown at prior stops (though we have a very limited window to look through, given how early it is in his career) that he likes to spread the ball around to a lot of guys. There is going to be a lot more opportunity for the younger guys on the roster to see the field, but we don't yet know what they'll look like - especially learning all the new routes/formations that Mehringer is bringing in.

At the end of the day, I have no idea how "good" we're going to be next year - there are a ton of open questions. More open questions, I think, than our opponents. It's great, though, that they too are dealing with a lot of question marks this year - but that gives me even less of an idea of how we'll do against them, other than having more of a shot at being competitive/winning than we would if they didn't have those questions.

The unknown is exciting... and I'm heading out to Seattle to watch us kick off the season. I'm certainly hoping for 6 or more wins and a bowl in Ash's first year, but I really have no idea what to expect (other than a new team, with a new look and new prospects, with a bright future).
 
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Until we have a QB that actually starts worrying the other team, I don't see us being a big factor either. Very worried about this years w/l. I'm usually always optimistic but I don't see us being much of a factor. Hoping our new addition is better than we think
 
And they make that dollar by having people bet both sides of the w/l margin. If more money comes in on one side over the other they eventually move the line, but this line hasn't moved. And yes, they do have more info then most bettors. Otherwise they'd be out of business, and last I looked, they were still there.
Vegas will take bets that say the sun doesn't rise in the east every morning as long as someone is willing bet. Vegas will even supply an expert on the sun just so the odds are in their favor. A clock is right twice a day.[winking]
 
I actually tend to slightly overestimate the team most years... and adjust much closer to reality after the first 3 games or so. I'm expecting to do the same this year.

Optimistically, all of our question marks get answered positively. Until proven otherwise, I go in fairly optimistically.

Still, though, we have a lot of questions this year.

Coaching changes are always disruptive (and we're hoping this one is too, but in a good way). Veteran players will be learning new techniques, terminology, routines, plays, etc... for all their snaps and past success, they haven't yet taken a snap in the new offense/defense that Ash is putting on the field. Their gameday experience will help them, but not as much as a veteran in a program that has had a more consistent style/staff over the prior few years. The hope is that all the changes will click very quickly, and that they race up the learning curve... but one has to expect some miscommunications, misunderstandings, and guys not hitting their marks... which should improve as the year wears on.

Beyond that, I don't think we've ever replaced the entire LB corps in one season. The DL looks stout, the secondary has some young talent but questions at depth. Overall, Ash is a defensive guy, so I'd expect a lot of focus to be put on defense... but there's still a lot of uncertainty there. Not that we're going to be bad there, just we have less of an idea of what we've got than in prior years.

On offense, we're changing the entire offensive philosophy. Guys were recruited to, and played in, a pro-style offense... and that's been the identify of Rutgers, in some shape or form, for over a decade. I can't expect the shift to a power spread is going to be like flipping a switch. The OLine has experience, but experience in a different offense - and they'll need to learn/understand the blocking schemes for Mehringer's playbook.

We don't know who our QB is, or who will be best able to run what Mehringer wants to run. It's clear that the guys on the roster on Ash's first day are not the style of QB that we're looking for going forward, just based on who's been recruited so far. That tells me that if one of them wins the job, Mehringer will be adapting his playbook to suit their strengths... and not really running the style of offense he really wants to ultimately install here. Again, just a lot of uncertainty.

I think we've got a lot of talent at WR, but not a lot of proven playmakers... and Mehringer has shown at prior stops (though we have a very limited window to look through, given how early it is in his career) that he likes to spread the ball around to a lot of guys. There is going to be a lot more opportunity for the younger guys on the roster to see the field, but we don't yet know what they'll look like - especially learning all the new routes/formations that Mehringer is bringing in.

At the end of the day, I have no idea how "good" we're going to be next year - there are a ton of open questions. More open questions, I think, than our opponents. It's great, though, that they too are dealing with a lot of question marks this year - but that gives me even less of an idea of how we'll do against them, other than having more of a shot at being competitive/winning than we would if they didn't have those questions.

The unknown is exciting... and I'm heading out to Seattle to watch us kick off the season. I'm certainly hoping for 6 or more wins and a bowl in Ash's first year, but I really have no idea what to expect (other than a new team, with a new look and new prospects, with a bright future).
I agree with most of what you said, but the offense can't been any worse than last year. Last year Rutgers played without real QB (Laviano) and an OC. Can it get any worse? Also, defense wins games and last year Rutgers didn't even have a pulse. Ash has a history of producing a defense. The way college football schedules are set up if the defense improves a little and the offense doesn't regress Rutgers is bound to show improvement in the win/loss column. As fans we over think things making the situation more complicated than it has to be. 247sports produce an article back in December ranking the recruiting of all 14 B1G schools up until the 2015 class. Rutgers was ranked 7th. Rutgers biggest problem has been the quality of coaching the last few years. Even with all the decommits Flood's recruits were better than half of the B1G just because NJ/State of Rutgers has more quality players. Friedgen showed you what quality coaching can do with solid talent. As soon as he left so did the quality of coaching which made the difference in 2014 compared to 2015. Ash hasn't coached a game as a HC, but he and his staff have more experience on the bigger stage than Flood's crew. There is a reason why schools go after certain coaches who coached under a good coach (Meyers' coaching tree) because you have a very good idea of what to expect.
 
I agree with most of what you said, but the offense can't been any worse than last year. Last year Rutgers played without real QB (Laviano) and an OC. Can it get any worse? Also, defense wins games and last year Rutgers didn't even have a pulse. Ash has a history of producing a defense. The way college football schedules are set up if the defense improves a little and the offense doesn't regress Rutgers is bound to show improvement in the win/loss column. As fans we over think things making the situation more complicated than it has to be. 247sports produce an article back in December ranking the recruiting of all 14 B1G schools up until the 2015 class. Rutgers was ranked 7th. Rutgers biggest problem has been the quality of coaching the last few years. Even with all the decommits Flood's recruits were better than half of the B1G just because NJ/State of Rutgers has more quality players. Friedgen showed you what quality coaching can do with solid talent. As soon as he left so did the quality of coaching which made the difference in 2014 compared to 2015. Ash hasn't coached a game as a HC, but he and his staff have more experience on the bigger stage than Flood's crew. There is a reason why schools go after certain coaches who coached under a good coach (Meyers' coaching tree) because you have a very good idea of what to expect.

I agree with the "it can't get any worse" sentiment - I think we're going in a much more positive direction. I just think that there are going to be some hiccups and misfires along the way as we experience some growing pains in the first season of an entirely changed football program, and that we have some "I have no idea what to expect" position groups (especially at LB).

I have no baseline for comparison, I don't think. The 2016 Scarlet Knights are an entirely different beast than the Scarlet Knights of the last 15 seasons... it's a complete realignment/rebranding of what Rutgers football is all about, with no carryover from prior years except for player personnel. I can't really place us ahead of or behind other programs because we're experiencing change on a level that we haven't seen here since Schiano took over (and we're not starting from anywhere near as deep a hole).

I'm optimistic because almost all the noises I hear coming out of the program are good ones... but I can't really set any expectations for this season that aren't based on sheer guesswork. Once we play 3-4 games, I'll have a better sense of the product we're trying to put on the field and how it will line up against the remainder of the year's opponents. Not giving any credence to any preseason polls or rankings, since they are similarly in the dark about how the complete overhaul is going to look come September.
 
RU is at minimum 6-6....they may be 3-6 entering the final 3 games, but 6-6 is where I have RU today based on the new staff and defensive improvements expected across the entire schedule.
 
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Our DL returns all 4 starters and consists of 3 5th year seniors and a RS junior as the starters. Grown ass men playing up front. Our issue is at LB and it's a big one.

On O, obviously we don't know who the QB will be in the new system so that's a huge issue. But again, OL has 3 fifth year seniors and a 4th year junior who is primed for a breakout season so while I'm concerned about depth, I'm not worried about our stsrting 5 across the OL. But QB isaquestion mark. As for WRs in this new offense in not concerned. If we were still running a pro set I'd be more worried. We have athletes/playmakers.

Maybe my impressions of your OL and DL were wrong.

I thought your DL was a concern mostly because the health of Hamilton and Turay. And to be honest, even when healthy, Turay wasn't a complete player. Pass rusher extraordinaire but somewhat of a liability in the run game.

As for your OL I was thinking they struggled last year so you were returning a bunch of players that struggled. In some ways that's a lot like our OL. Projecting experience and a year of strength conditioning leads to improvement.
 
...247sports produce an article back in December ranking the recruiting of all 14 B1G schools up until the 2015 class. Rutgers was ranked 7th...

Do you have a link to that article? I've posted this spreadsheet here before but I've been compiling recruiting class data from 247 for a while. I came up with an algorithm to produce a 4 year recruiting class average. From 2012 through 2015 RU was 6th in the B1G by my metric but in 2016 RU drops to 10th.
 
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