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Chris Laviano Is The Best QB I've seen at Rutgers

Best QB on the team? how would you know that, because of the 1/2 game he
played? If CL didn't get suspended you wouldn't have seen even that much.
So you think he'w good? If you were the coach you would ignore Rettig for
these 3 years. Of cource If Cl is the only one playing he will improve, but
is he the one that will beat Mich, Ohio State, Neb,Wisc. and so forth. Would you not play the one with the NFL arm. Do you think CL's arm will get
him a national championship or entry into the NFL? How do you know
if Rettig has or doesn't have the tools for this. You are telling us you think Rettig should be ignored.? You saw what in his one appearance that would
cause you to waste his talent. Why are you and Flood so reluctant to
see if Rettig has what it takes? Are basing your decision on the putrid
defense that Indiano has?

Nobody is ignoring Rettig. He has what could most politely be called "line of scrimmage management issues". Way to make stupid inferences, though.
 
People constantly pointing out that a Laviano underthrow means Rettig should be in there is like listening to a bunch of parents at a pop-warner game pining for their kid to be the QB. Not sure what more you would be looking for your QB to do over the past 2 games.......almost 600 yards passing, 6 TDs, 1 INT with approximately a 65% completion percentage. How much better do people think that Rettig would be? Or is it that they just enjoy a 70 yard overthrown pass vs a 50 yard underthrown pass. Laviano had plenty of great throws on the money yesterday. His 2nd TD pass to Carroo was a dart in between the CB and Safety hitting Carroo in stride. His long pass to Patton showed accuracy and touch - also hitting him in stride.

For those complaining about under-thrown passes - ask yourself this question.......what is a better percentage play to a stud receiver......a 5 yard overthrow or a 5 yard underthrow? There is no QB who throws the ball perfectly every time.
 
Been watching since the McMahon era. I would agree Laviano looks better than all of them in the game management and extending plays with his legs. I do not think he is the most physically talented we've had, but physical talent means nothing if the instincts aren't quite there.
 
QBs are judged on wins not on how they throw or even if they can throw the ball. If he beats OSU I don't care if he throws like Tom Brady or Marsha Brady.
 
I saw TCU in person last night and their Heisman hopeful QB, Boykin, does not have a cannon for an arm, yet makes good decisions and puts ups ton of points. Not sure why we want more than that from our qb.
 
People constantly pointing out that a Laviano underthrow means Rettig should be in there is like listening to a bunch of parents at a pop-warner game pining for their kid to be the QB. Not sure what more you would be looking for your QB to do over the past 2 games.......almost 600 yards passing, 6 TDs, 1 INT with approximately a 65% completion percentage. How much better do people think that Rettig would be? Or is it that they just enjoy a 70 yard overthrown pass vs a 50 yard underthrown pass. Laviano had plenty of great throws on the money yesterday. His 2nd TD pass to Carroo was a dart in between the CB and Safety hitting Carroo in stride. His long pass to Patton showed accuracy and touch - also hitting him in stride.

For those complaining about under-thrown passes - ask yourself this question.......what is a better percentage play to a stud receiver......a 5 yard overthrow or a 5 yard underthrow? There is no QB who throws the ball perfectly every time.

Edit: you're right about the shorter 2nd touchdown pass. However, for the 3rd Laviano-Carroo touchdown, Hitting Carroo in-stride for the second touchdown would have meant that he would have caught it in the middle of the endzone while running at or near full speed. As such, Carroo slowed down to a near-stop and caught it at the 1-yard line, then immediately getting leveled/injured by the fast-closing Indiana cornerback and safety while falling into the end zone. Laviano had wound up and thrown him a pass just under 50 yards.

Look, Laviano played very well during both the MSU and Indiana games, enough to deserve the starting spot. At this point, arguing about what could have been with giving Rettig minutes in the Kansas/PSU game is akin to beating a dead horse. But I don't recommend that you use this game to showcase Laviano as having any sort of world-beating arm strength.
 
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No, it was not. Hitting Carroo in-stride for the second touchdown would have meant that he would have caught it in the middle of the endzone while running at or near full speed. As such, Carroo slowed down to a near-stop and caught it at the 1-yard line, then immediately getting leveled/injured by the fast-closing Indiana cornerback and safety while falling into the end zone. Laviano had wound up and thrown him a pass just under 50 yards.

Look, Laviano played very well during both the MSU and Indiana games, enough to deserve the starting spot. At this point, arguing about what could have been with giving Rettig minutes in the Kansas/PSU game is akin to beating a dead horse. But I don't recommend that you use that particular play to showcase Laviano's arm strength, because that is just silly.

It's too bad you are referring to Carroo's 3rd TD so your entire point is meaningless.

Carroo's 1st TD - Jail-break WR Screen (Catch & Run)
Carroo's 2nd TD - 25 Yard Post Pattern - perfect strike between the CB & Safety
Carroo's 3rd TD - 43 Yard Go (underthrown by 3-5 yards)

Next time do us all a favor and STFU
 
It's too bad you are referring to Carroo's 3rd TD so your entire point is meaningless.

Carroo's 1st TD - Jail-break WR Screen (Catch & Run)
Carroo's 2nd TD - 25 Yard Post Pattern - perfect strike between the CB & Safety
Carroo's 3rd TD - 43 Yard Go (underthrown by 3-5 yards)

Next time do us all a favor and STFU

I realized this and just edited my post. But my point is still valid, and I'm not really the poster that most others are disagreeing with. But you sound particularly angry. Perhaps you should do yourself a favor and drink some tea, fly a kite, or relax from this board in some other way before your personal attacks get worse?
 
Please, stop blaming Laviano for Carroo getting hurt. His ankle got bent on the tackle in th end zone.
 
I realized this and just edited my post. But my point is still valid, and I'm not really the poster that most others are disagreeing with. But you sound particularly angry. Perhaps you should drink some tea, fly a kite, or relax from this board in some other way before your personal attacks get worse?


The problem is that you are both misinterpreting the point and using incorrect facts to back up your counter to something that you are interpreting incorrectly in the first place. Quite frankly it's very frustrating.

The entire premise of your post is countering a point that I did not make, nor was I arguing.....that Laviano has some type of super arm strength. He obviously does not. The point I was making was that the guy is accurate enough when he needs to be, and can throw it far enough so that his superior recievers can adjust to the ball. If you watched any football games besides RU (including pro games) - you would know that all QB's make bad throws, and not every QB has superior arm strength.
 
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boom. Sophomore with another great game. How did you like the fourth quarter clutch play?

Laviano as a sophomore is playing like Hart, Nova and Teal (last 6 games only) played as seniors.

For the many haters - how is ya like the arm strength?
I think you are exaggerating a tad.
 
The problem is that you are both misinterpreting the point and using incorrect facts to back up your counter to something that you are interpreting incorrectly in the first place. Quite frankly it's very frustrating.

The entire premise of your post is countering a point that I did not make, nor was I arguing.....that Laviano has some type of super arm strength. He obviously does not. The point I was making was that the guy is accurate enough when he needs to be, and can throw it far enough so that his superior recievers can adjust to the ball. If you watched any football games besides RU (including pro games) - you would know that all QB's make bad throws, and not every QB has superior arm strength.

That's fair enough. My point can be summarized as follows: Laviano has what seems to be a good football IQ, great escapability, very good accuracy with short- to medium-range throws, mediocre long-range throwing ability (but having someone like Carroo all but negates this), and has made several notable mistake that most first-year quarterbacks usually do (except the spike vs. MSU, can't let that one slide). I was frustrated that Rettig didn't get at least some playing minutes in games vs PSU and Kansas, but that is a moot point now. I was mistaken on which touchdown to Carroo was being referred to, hence the quick rebuttal. But am willing to have a rational discussion about most things. That's all.
 
That's fair enough. My point can be summarized as follows: Laviano has what seems to be a good football IQ, great escapability, very good accuracy with short- to medium-range throws, mediocre long-range throwing ability (but having someone like Carroo all but negates this), and has made several notable mistake that most first-year quarterbacks usually do (except the spike vs. MSU, can't let that one slide). I was frustrated that Rettig didn't get at least some playing minutes in games vs PSU and Kansas, but that is a moot point now. I was mistaken on which touchdown to Carroo was being referred to, hence the quick rebuttal. But am willing to have a rational discussion about most things. That's all.

You are likely correct that I need a break from this board. There are so many people trolling agendas because they don't like Flood and taking it out on CL. I am intrigued by what Rettig might be able to do, but the facts are that Laviano had performed extremely well for a first year starter at QB. People complaining about a couple of underthrown TD passes by the starter and calling for the backup QB sounds ridiculously silly if you take the emotion out of it. CL played well against a strong ranked team in MSU, and lead the team to a large deficit comeback against IU.,,,,and there are still people sticking to their guns and trolling threads for Rettig.
 
that throw on fourth down and short was perfect.. perfectly underthrown.

Out of curiosity. You created this ID in 2005 and sat on it for over 10 years to finally post something on the Football board and this is what you chose?
 
Are you out of ur mind!?!?

Dink and dunk won't win you many games against good teams!

RUmonster you are so right........ 3rd down and 9 to go with 2 and 3 yard completions won't win games either. Lord knows we hardly get any Yards After Catch because receivers are constantly slowing down or reaching behind and waiting for badly thrown balls and getting tackled at the spot of the catch...
 
Dumbest effing post I've ever read. He made a good, not great pass for a TD, which Carroo made a very good catch on - him getting injured is what happens sometimes when players collide - to pin that on CL is ridiculous. Laviano had an awesome game and anyone who can't see that is an effing moron.
I liked your post. But such drama! Such hyperbole. LOL
 
boom. Sophomore with another great game. How did you like the fourth quarter clutch play?

Laviano as a sophomore is playing like Hart, Nova and Teal (last 6 games only) played as seniors.

For the many haters - how is ya like the arm strength?

Did you miss the UM, Wisconsin, PSU, OSU, Nebraska and Army games? Army only 105 yards. How "great" were those games?
 
Best QB I ever saw at Rutgers was Dan Marino, Pitt was playing at Rutgers.......
 
boom. Sophomore with another great game. How did you like the fourth quarter clutch play?

Laviano as a sophomore is playing like Hart, Nova and Teal (last 6 games only) played as seniors.

For the many haters - how is ya like the arm strength?

Well Mr. Laviano it's laudable that you think your son is a good QB but I think you are looking through rose-colored glasses. I have seen him hit maybe one receiver in stride and in the numbers this year. Rewatch some of the Carroo highlights. That poor kid had to wait for every throw to get there.
 
AGREED!!!!
Name the last QB to look this good in only his 6th start. I am thrilled we have him for 2+ more seasons. He is a very good QB!! All of you calling him out are disgraceful!!! I hope he does not read theses boards or any QB recruit for that matter. Support your QB because we have a damn good one!!!!! Thank you Russo for ignoring the *ssclowns on these boards if you do happen to visit here.

Uncle Laviano, he will look great holding a clipboard next year on the sidelines and then in Stony Brook college colors for his senior year.
 
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