So Ash should making decisions based on what the fans think? Really?
***Chris Laviano named Starting QB***
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So Ash should making decisions based on what the fans think? Really?
4th string Rettig? The anger seeps out of you, but it is the result simply of your ignorance, not any truth. BTW Leonte Carroo is playing ball for the Miami Dolphins, not in jail. ;)
So with this system we probably won't be getting top
notch quarterbacks? Bring back Flood.
Who the hell cares what the fans think? The same dopey fans who were going INSANE over a qb who has now been 4th string at two locations? Who the hell cares. The fans don't know their ass from their elbows. I highly doubt that a HC the caliber of Chris Ash is going to take fan reactions into consideration when making a Football decision.
And when Chris had our future NFL receiver he still couldn't win .If Rettig
had Carroo they would have been great together. I guess Carroo
must have known the spread was coming in this year.
1) Good luck to Laviano. Winning is what is important.
2) I have a lot more faith in Ash's decision making
3) This offense seems much better for Lavianos skill set then the pro set. Him being named starter in it isn't a huge surprise
4) Every QB on the roster should stay ready
5) I predict we see 3 QB's this year, with Oden controlling the position by the 8th game.
2) I have a lot more faith in Ash's decision making
3) This offense seems much better for Lavianos skill set then the pro set. Him being named starter in it isn't a huge surprise
4) Every QB on the roster should stay ready
5) I predict we see 3 QB's this year, with Oden controlling the position by the 8th game.
Plus his four years of eligibility was up and could not come back even if he wanted.
Cris might have been awarded the starting position because he has the most game experienced, has the backing of his teammates and adapted to the way Ash wants RU to play more than the other returning QBs did.
Allen might be a little rusty in his reading defenses along with his passing game and needs more time learning Ash's system.
Don't know if that's the case, but obviously Ash felt more comfortable naming Chris the starter rather than name Zach #1
Gio was supposed to need time to develop when he committed, remember even thought he was the starting QB his senior year in HS, Rescigno was a WRer his freshman and sophomore years moving to QB his junior year.
He might have the talent to be the starter, but needs more time to learn how to use that talent to overcome what Laviano is showing Ash.
This is the second year Rettig hasn't been able to pull ahead of Chris, we can blame Flood for not giving him a proper chance when Laviano was showing nothing last season, but something has caused Hayden to fall in back of Chris in Ash's eyes or he'd have been named the starter.
As for TO,probably Ash doesn't want Tyler to start and take the pounding the starting RU QB will probably be taking , until Parker builds Oden's body up from what it is now.
So S&C is what is most important for Tyler Oden right now and being in the starter's hunt isn't what Ash has in mind for him until he gains more strength and weight.
That's my uninformed opinion on how the race for #1 QB spot panned out
Allen might be a little rusty in his reading defenses along with his passing game and needs more time learning Ash's system.
Don't know if that's the case, but obviously Ash felt more comfortable naming Chris the starter rather than name Zach #1
Gio was supposed to need time to develop when he committed, remember even thought he was the starting QB his senior year in HS, Rescigno was a WRer his freshman and sophomore years moving to QB his junior year.
He might have the talent to be the starter, but needs more time to learn how to use that talent to overcome what Laviano is showing Ash.
This is the second year Rettig hasn't been able to pull ahead of Chris, we can blame Flood for not giving him a proper chance when Laviano was showing nothing last season, but something has caused Hayden to fall in back of Chris in Ash's eyes or he'd have been named the starter.
As for TO,probably Ash doesn't want Tyler to start and take the pounding the starting RU QB will probably be taking , until Parker builds Oden's body up from what it is now.
So S&C is what is most important for Tyler Oden right now and being in the starter's hunt isn't what Ash has in mind for him until he gains more strength and weight.
That's my uninformed opinion on how the race for #1 QB spot panned out
Please don't let me watch 6 guys on a moving conveyor belt....I am looking forward to the year when our QB is a lock...
"Sorry but if you cannot get behind the guy who EARNED this job from 2 different staffs with plenty of competition then you suck."
Laviano EARNED it from Flood? I realize some have continually had full throated Laviano support no matter what but this can't really be said with a straight face.
As much as I like what Ash has been doing, having two guys even in spring and one starting as the 1 in summer without any formal practices in between doesn't tell me someone EARNED it as much as the staff over the summer decided they wanted to start out with the one with more experience. That's their prerogative.
But it doesn't mean anyone EARNED it at all.
That being said I have a belief that Ash will leave in Laviano if the team is competitive but pull him if not, which is all anyone has ever asked for. But let's stop with this one earned something and others didn't from multiple staffs when nothing like that has occurred. One can't earn or not earn anything on 8 or so passes in a scrimmage. Experience was the desire and it's a coach's right to choose the same.
Laviano EARNED it from Flood? I realize some have continually had full throated Laviano support no matter what but this can't really be said with a straight face.
As much as I like what Ash has been doing, having two guys even in spring and one starting as the 1 in summer without any formal practices in between doesn't tell me someone EARNED it as much as the staff over the summer decided they wanted to start out with the one with more experience. That's their prerogative.
But it doesn't mean anyone EARNED it at all.
That being said I have a belief that Ash will leave in Laviano if the team is competitive but pull him if not, which is all anyone has ever asked for. But let's stop with this one earned something and others didn't from multiple staffs when nothing like that has occurred. One can't earn or not earn anything on 8 or so passes in a scrimmage. Experience was the desire and it's a coach's right to choose the same.
Congratulations Chris Laviano on being named Rutgers starting QB for 2016...keep working hard ...just follow the ASH plan and listen to only those that mean anything ...your coaching staff...no matter how well you perform a quarterback can never please everyone in the stands ... so don't try to... it 's not worth it ...you will earn the fan's respect by showing improvement and a good attitude...ask Ryan Hart...ask Mike Teel...ask Gary Nova ...they persevered and you will too.
Or he knew his eligibility was up and was signing a 4 year $3.1 million contract with the Dolphins that included a $700k signing bonus. But please continue to blind us with your ignorance.
Agree with everything except #5. Would prefer a redshirt. Hopefully Laviano is greatly improved from last year. If not, I don't have a lot of confidence in our stable of QB's. Short leash please.
Gotta trust the staff, especially when it has no ties or promises to uphold to the current roster
Wow. Not only do posters here know better than the staffs who should start but also know what the coaches are thinking and why they make decisions.
We've got a bunch of freekin Kreskins. Now if we could only put it to good use.
Wow--Starting role was earned from flood? Guess you're as much of a magician to see how that was true as that trick evaded me.
Don't have a problem with this. While he's not JT Barrett, it's obvious the coaching staff doesn't hate him. As long as the staff stays away from a Flood-esque leash and redshirts Odin I will be happy.
It may be a matter of you not wanting to believe.
I have been around RU football for a long time but have never heard so much "hate" for 1 player although Nova comes close with Teel 3rd. I'm sure there are many who still have their panties in a bunch after Laviano put them in their place following the Maryland game.
Personally, I think Flood did Laviano no favors last year. He probably hurt him in the long run but believe he did it because he felt CL was the best and perhaps only option IN HIS EYES.
JT Barrett didn't win Urban over completely at the beginning of 2015, lets see if Chris can prove he's the one deserving to start every game and make all RU fans proud.
I'm rooting for him to succeed and if Ash puts in someone else, I'll be rooting for them to succeed , because I want Rutgers to succeed
Laviano is becoming one of my favorite players. His damn the fans, I'm just going to keep beating the competition out attitude is bad ass.
Hopefully the new system suits him better than the last. At least this season looks like we had a true QB competition, I don't believe the last season did.
Props to Laviano for getting the spot.
Props to Laviano for getting the spot.
Ash doesn't seem like the type of guy who is going to watch his offense go 3 and out half the game and not make a move. He is a results driven coach.
Oden to me is the only QB on the roster with the full skill set to run this offense. Stick or not, I can see him getting worked in much sooner than later. It's Ash time. If Laviano or the other QB's aren't performing for one reason or another, I doubt Ash is going to sit on a redshirt when the guy who can help is right there.
Hope I am wrong and Laviano comes in and plays lights out.
And you know that his leash will be short because ????
All his prior head coaching experience in yanking quarterbacks?
Or all his prior experience coaching offenses where the head coach was prone to have a quick hook ?? Oh wait... Ash coaches on the defensive side of the ball.
Or do you say this just because he coached defense on a team that the offense used multiple QB's ??
There is not one shred of evidence indicating how Ash will manage a situation with a QB I am dumbfounded when I see so many people write that Ash will have a short leash or a quick hook. Totally baseless statement from anyone who has ever stated that.
How do we know this? All I heard was that Gio and Hayden were running the offense with the 2's while Chris and Zach were running with the 1's. It sounds like Zach had a fair shot at the starting position but Gio and Hayden did not.
Sounds like he's gotten better, or is a better fit for the O, so I have no problem with Laviano winning the job. I will have a problem is he performs like last year and we don't try something different. Hopefully he handles himself better through adversity, also.
Huh?
The truth is it won't matter who wins QB1 for the foreseeable future. All our current options are more or less similarly deficient. You can either pick deficient nice guy or difficient ass hole. My personal preference is an ass hole with a chip on his shoulder. It will be up to Mehringer - his performance will be the most important key to productivity. Once Ash's first two or three QB recruits find themselves in starting roles the QB will become an impact position.
Right now it's hold on tight. Drew is a young hungry kid and I hope he rises to the occasion in his new role of responsibility.
I have to trust the staff to make the right decision. I thought Laviano acted immaturely last year, but I also thought that booing his return was wrong. And let's keep in mind that Laviano is very young.
I am not a big advocate of swapping QBs. Every QB has a different cadence and different leadership style, so it's hard to go from one to the other. Still, if Laviano fails after a few games, I'd hope the staff would take him out.
It's interesting that Rettig has apparently done poorly in the competition. Maybe he wasn't the answer last year after all, and that putting him in would simply have been change for the sake of change.
I am not a big advocate of swapping QBs. Every QB has a different cadence and different leadership style, so it's hard to go from one to the other. Still, if Laviano fails after a few games, I'd hope the staff would take him out.
It's interesting that Rettig has apparently done poorly in the competition. Maybe he wasn't the answer last year after all, and that putting him in would simply have been change for the sake of change.
What's a fair shot? There was the Spring. There were workouts. There are unit meetings. There was practice. Allen came in more than half way thru and within a couple of weeks was fighting for #1. Why?
It has nothing to do with "fair shots". It's anyone but Laviano. At least be honest.
I support the staff's decision. These are accomplished coaches with lots of W's under their belts, and a NC Ring in Ash's case.
Good luck to Laviano, and go Knights!
Good luck to Laviano, and go Knights!
You are partially right--the starting position was not earned all season from Flood. Not a question of belief but of observation.
As I said re the current situation, Ash has the right to go with experience. (If you want to argue that Laviano outplayed Rettig and Gio from the last spring snap till prior to summer camp even starting well then there's no debating this). Laviano started as the 1 after spring---based on earning it since the end of spring and before summer? C'mon. That's Ash's prerogative to go with experience and not all too surprising. Lets not make it different than it is.
As I said re the current situation, Ash has the right to go with experience. (If you want to argue that Laviano outplayed Rettig and Gio from the last spring snap till prior to summer camp even starting well then there's no debating this). Laviano started as the 1 after spring---based on earning it since the end of spring and before summer? C'mon. That's Ash's prerogative to go with experience and not all too surprising. Lets not make it different than it is.
