Agree, always a deep-run NCAA Tourney threat and UNC is ranked #4 in public universities. I would assume Cliff still values his education.Looks like NC Chapel Hill
Agree, always a deep-run NCAA Tourney threat and UNC is ranked #4 in public universities. I would assume Cliff still values his education.Looks like NC Chapel Hill
He’s been linked to certain schools since he entered the portal. Silence doesn’t mean limited options.Mag is not in top 80 portal transfers. He may not have 4 quality suitors.
Which schools?He’s been linked to certain schools since he entered the portal. Silence doesn’t mean limited options.
My observation was solely about potential production, I wasn’t saying Cliff is seeking a team with that kind of player.Unfortunately not the only criteria , since he had that being next to Ace Bailey
I'm not sure how that can be true since the schools are directly competing against each other. I think there are a limited number of high major quality bigs, all the top schools are aware of them all. And there are a limited number of schools with top NIL. Offers and negotiations are on going and what one player or school does directly impacts the others.They have their targets that they are working on. None of it is impacted by Cliff’s decision and what those other schools may do.
RU is not getting a top tier guy unless you and others all recently sent extra large checks to help the cause. Richie's mentioned it in the various podcasts that are available to all.I'm not sure how that can be true since the schools are directly competing against each other. I think there are a limited number of high major quality bigs, all the top schools are aware of them all. And there are a limited number of schools with top NIL. Offers and negotiations are on going and what one player or school does directly impacts the others.
When would that stop the usual suspects in paying players before NIL!I thought Cliff couldn't take NIL money?
Hard to picture him anything other than a RU uniform.
Absolutely. Big difference in him, Myles, Young, and even Cam and Gavin. Only Eugene, Mulcahy, and Mag screwed us over in my book.Nothing but love for Cliff. Great player, student and seemingly teammate. Go get paid!
He can so long as he is not "earning" it. In other words, he can be compensated for licensing his picture to an advertiser, but he cannot, say, do promotional work.I thought Cliff couldn't take NIL money?
I know that. And in my original post on this topic in this thread, my point was to wonder how many schools were above us in the NIL pecking order.RU is not getting a top tier guy unless you and others all recently sent extra large checks to help the cause. Richie's mentioned it in the various podcasts that are available to all.
I felt that about Mulcahy, too.Hard to picture him anything other than a RU uniform.
It’s pathetic that people can spend hours of their lives talking RU basketball and Football and still give squat. Alabama got Cliff because they offered the most money to him. We offer page after page of talk but NO action. Cliff on this team next year and we def win the BIG. A big miss of an opportunity by the fanbase.RU is not getting a top tier guy unless you and others all recently sent extra large checks to help the cause. Richie's mentioned it in the various podcasts that are available to all.
You need to switch Spencer and Mulcahy. Spencer absolutely screwed the program. Mulcahy spent four years here, and by leaving, I think he ultimately screwed himself.Absolutely. Big difference in him, Myles, Young, and even Cam and Gavin. Only Eugene, Mulcahy, and Mag screwed us over in my book.
As noted in the podcasts (hint, hint) RU is only mid tier in basketball NIL. So they are playing in the 2nd/3rd tier of portal targets and that's what they've landed so far.I know that. And in my original post on this topic in this thread, my point was to wonder how many schools were above us in the NIL pecking order.
You say that as if you think I’m disagreeing?As noted in the podcasts (hint, hint) RU is only mid tier in basketball NIL. So they are playing in the 2nd/3rd tier of portal targets and that's what they've landed so far.
I'm posting it that way for the benefit of others who don't follow closely.You say that as if you think I’m disagreeing?
He was not going to get that type money . He more than likely wanted a new place. see him in the sweet 16 2025It’s pathetic that people can spend hours of their lives talking RU basketball and Football and still give squat. Alabama got Cliff because they offered the most money to him. We offer page after page of talk but NO action. Cliff on this team next year and we def win the BIG. A big miss of an opportunity by the fanbase.
The difference being most people expected Spencer to return when the season ended based on his words and actions, and few expected Mulcahy to return.Nope. Spencer got offered a bag and took it, like most would. Mulcahy waited about a month after that and then left, screwing the team royally. And that after watching his play deteriorate during his final year here while Pike continued to play him well more than he deserved. I do agree that he screwed himself as he wasn’t ever starting at the end this year… but at least he got paid…I guess. If he had left before Cam, no one would have cared.
Perhaps if Mulcahy didn’t take until a month after, we could have gotten someone to fill his role. When he left, there were zero options.The difference being most people expected Spencer to return when the season ended based on his words and actions, and few expected Mulcahy to return.
Mulcahy was pretty clear. He was considering all of his options throughout that whole process. Spencer went from "I'm returning" to "I'm gone" overnight one day.
Timing was definitely an issue, but I don't think it came as a surprise to anybody that he didn't return.Perhaps if Mulcahy didn’t take until a month after, we could have gotten someone to fill his role. When he left, there were zero options.
Cliff is considered one of the top big men in the portal. He left RU to get paid and all his final four offered big money. Way more than anything RU could afford. The center RU brings in will likely be getting 2-3x less than what Cliff is going to receive.He was not going to get that type money . He more than likely wanted a new place. see him in the sweet 16 2025
Nah.It’s pathetic that people can spend hours of their lives talking RU basketball and Football and still give squat.
Whatever this is just more BS excuses. Game days if you’re not at the RAC or in the stadium you’re here early and often. If our so called diehards cared as much as Alabama fans and alums we would be talking about how awesome next year could be. Don’t complain about not winning when you know how the college sports world works. Your interest in college sports has you here every day so you’re all in except $$$$.Nah.
For many people, their interest in sports is only strong enough to enjoy watching on TV and talking about it online, falling far short of caring enough to spend any money on it. That’s no more pathetic than not sending Netflix extra money beyond our subscription because we enjoy watching a particular series.
Everyone has their own interests and priorities. Forming an expectation that others align their interests and priorities with ours is narcissistic thinking.
and there in lies the current mindset of what college basketball and anything in life means to a certain group and generation . yes it has always been there but now it is the norm. Good luck to you all.Nothing but love for Cliff. Great player, student and seemingly teammate. Go get paid!
where is your proof that RU didn't keep Cliff because of cash? It was discussed here well before the final game that he was gone and wanted to go elsewhere.It’s pathetic that people can spend hours of their lives talking RU basketball and Football and still give squat. Alabama got Cliff because they offered the most money to him. We offer page after page of talk but NO action. Cliff on this team next year and we def win the BIG. A big miss of an opportunity by the fanbase.
and maybe perhaps just maybe the Rutgers fanbase is more traditional and just doesn't want to be a sports factory and be "bama like" and live in a world that is just a tad higher thinking than winning at all cost sports identify us. After all this was an elite looking and thinking academic institution before "big time sports" and chasing the holy grail of college athletics became the agenda and drove the day. Perhaps a state like NJ bookended with pro teams doesn't exactly live to have their state university be another one. There just might be a whole lot of other things on the minds of it's vastly diverse population unlike the Bama's of the world.Whatever this is just more BS excuses. Game days if you’re not at the RAC or in the stadium you’re here early and often. If our so called diehards cared as much as Alabama fans and alums we would be talking about how awesome next year could be. Don’t complain about not winning when you know how the college sports world works. Your interest in college sports has you here every day so you’re all in except $$$$.
I agree that all the pundits were saying he's all but gone, but it also was discussed that earning money was the main driver not any dissatisfaction with Rutgers.where is your proof that RU didn't keep Cliff because of cash? It was discussed here well before the final game that he was gone and wanted to go elsewhere.
JFC, it's been reported on the premium side which you subscribe to that it was a mutual part of ways because Cliff was seeking to maximize his NIL and RU could not match anything he was being offered.where is your proof that RU didn't keep Cliff because of cash? It was discussed here well before the final game that he was gone and wanted to go elsewhere.
Rutgers fanbase bashes players and coaches on a game by game basis depending on wins and losses. The fan base wants to win but most are cheap and won’t donate a dime but still complain when we do not win. That education stuff is just an excuse for most. Alligator arms when it comes to really wanting to win. Everyone knows how recruiting works. Cliff would have been huge on this team next year now he will be huge for Alabama.and maybe perhaps just maybe the Rutgers fanbase is more traditional and just doesn't want to be a sports factory and be "bama like" and live in a world that is just a tad higher thinking than winning at all cost sports identify us. After all this was an elite looking and thinking academic institution before "big time sports" and chasing the holy grail of college athletics became the agenda and drove the day. Perhaps a state like NJ bookended with pro teams doesn't exactly live to have their state university be another one. There just might be a whole lot of other things on the minds of it's vastly diverse population unlike the Bama's of the world.
For the record I was just fine with the records of my years here from '77 to ''83.
I don’t know about you but I’m part of a 3rd generation of Rutgers graduates and while my family is filled with “higher level” thinkers we also do care greatly about the wins and losses of our Alma materand maybe perhaps just maybe the Rutgers fanbase is more traditional and just doesn't want to be a sports factory and be "bama like" and live in a world that is just a tad higher thinking than winning at all cost sports identify us. After all this was an elite looking and thinking academic institution before "big time sports" and chasing the holy grail of college athletics became the agenda and drove the day. Perhaps a state like NJ bookended with pro teams doesn't exactly live to have their state university be another one. There just might be a whole lot of other things on the minds of it's vastly diverse population unlike the Bama's of the world.
For the record I was just fine with the records of my years here from '77 to ''83.
This link confirms that he decided on Alabama. https://www.nj.com/rutgersbasketbal...sfer-cliff-omoruyi-announces-destination.htmlFinal 4 of North Carolina, Alabama, Georgetown, and Kansas State.