Cliff’s Decision Date is Sunday - Alabama
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Good luck to Cliff...good style fit, make money, and hopefully next year he's pro as I still think he can play similar style to Jarrett Allen or Nic Claxton...
I didn't expect Mag's recruitment to be like his availability last season...
I didn't expect Mag's recruitment to be like his availability last season...
His offense will still be putrid. We could have used his D, but oh well. Alabama has no professional teams and only cares about Bama and Auburn sports.
Wow! Congrats Cliff. He was super loyal to us, Pikes first big recruiting win over the bluebloods. And he spurned poachers every year. That money will change his life and his family’s life.
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I don’t understand the rhetoric that the presence or lack of presence of professional teams has anything to do with NIL or availability of NIL.
Texas, USC, UCLA, Florida, Georgia, LSU, Michigan, Ohio St, UNC all are present in the same areas or states as professional sports teams and it doesn’t correlate to NIL or the commitment of alumni to fund their sports programs
People using it as an excuse or crutch as to why we’re not getting top transfer players is becoming more and more tired.
The people on here who make that comment are the same ones I’m rolling my eyes at at a football game or basketball game that roll in 30 min after the game starts.
Embarrassing on both counts
Excuses? For what? 🤣
Why would anybody anywhere ever feel compelled to make excuses to you or anybody else for not spending their money according to your entertainment priorities? That’s ridiculous.
That's not the offer he selected though. Bama's offer was $1.4m so fit was part of the final decision.
I agree we shouldn’t be attacking people for how they spend their money because I’m sure some on here can’t afford to or have a fundamental issue with paying college athletes
But I’ll play devils advocate… are you OKAY with us not landing players that could lead us to another level or will you complain when we don’t have a big man that can fit what we need
We just can’t have it both ways as fans. If you’re against NIL and donating money to that end then it’s hard to listen to those same people critique who coach Pikiell or schiano for that matter bring in to produce a competitive product.
Interesting. I wouldnt have thought fit was worth 600k to him.
Good coaches punch above their weight class and achieve more with less. That’s how to increase NIL. By winning. By having a good coach. Pike is a good coach.
Coaches make millions. If they continue to harp on NIL woes as an excuse for losing they aren’t worth their salaries.
Yes, utilizing your talents to capitalize financially is a new concept in America. How dare we root for a guy that moved continents and sees his brother once every 4 years to be able to have security.
I’m in agreement with you for once but I think you missed what I’m trying to say.
I’m saying is it okay for FANS to complain about not landing players. I’m VERY confident pike is doing his best with the resources available to him every year
I’m so confident that I donate because I think he will continue to do a good job…. See the correlation? If he was a crap coach I wouldn’t donate and wouldn’t have season tix
I’m sure it was. But he may not have chances to make that much cash again. Good for him.
Fit was always a big factor for wherever Cliff went. Cam Spencer took less - Miami had a higher offer - and it worked out well for him on multiple levels.
Uh… we are talking about how awesome next year is going to be. Rarely a week (and more often) goes by without checking Dylan’s or Aces highlights.
Cliff gave us 4. That’s all you can ask. Now Cliff is going to get a check that’s going to change his life, his families life and probably the lives of many others - as he has such a good heart and has been sharing his good fortune with others.
Love Cliff, was very good player for us, but highly unlikely he will be in the NBA. Both the guys you mentioned went into the draft at 19 after one year of college, and both were far superior post defenders. Cliff would be 24 when the NBA season starts after he is done with his year at Alabama.
Anyone following the team knew Mulcahy wasn’t coming back. I’m sure Pike knew well before it became official.
it seemed like you were saying fans can’t complain about mediocre recruiting if aren’t donating enough. My view is they can. It’s the coach’s job to grow the fanbase by winning, which then increases NIL, not the other way around. That’s why coaches get fired. No excuses.
This. He just doesn’t have the touch on offense. He’ll end up abroad making a nice salary for many years - just but not close to the level of what he’s gonna pull this year. Good for him.
Where’s the poster that said RU fans always bad mouth every RU player that transfers up or laterally and only give well wishes to RU players that transfer down a level?
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All I see is well wishes for Cliff.
And I agree: He owes RU nothing. He gave RU 4 good years and now is cashing in. Good for him!! I’ll be rooting for him
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All I see is well wishes for Cliff.
And I agree: He owes RU nothing. He gave RU 4 good years and now is cashing in. Good for him!! I’ll be rooting for him
We have a long way to go to build our fan base and donor base. There’s lots of reasons Alabama fans are rabid and plentiful. Rutgers is still a sleeping giant because New Jersey and New York are still largely untapped giants. But where you are today is not where you end up. The answer is to gradually build a foundation that people can get excited about that shows continuous progress on the court and off the court.
Unless we get a transfer, Lathan. And that’s really not a terrible scenario. Kid can absolutely ball. Think it’s just going to come down to getting his body D1 and B1G ready.
And a year ago everyone was saying that Cam Spencer had no shot at the NBA and played his way into a draft combine invite. Never know how much things change in a different system. That said, Cliff is a project and would need time in the G League to work on his offense.
I don't take any of these numbers seriously. NIL agreements don't have to be filed anywhere so there's no way of verifying any reported number.
That’s just not true. Pike brought Paul and Cam as the 2 team reps to the Scarlet R dinner just a week before they announced their departure. Both were saying how much they loved RU and we’re looking forward to next season,
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Agreed - it’s actually cool to see our fans act with class and gratitude. Most of the sour grapes are coming from the 3 schools he passed on.
Just some context on dates and NBA draft withdrawals.
Paul entered the NBA draft.
He never publicly announced his withdrawal.
Thursday June 2nd the NBA made public the players who withdrew. Paul announced on Friday June 3rd he was transferring.
RHJ (and Geo) both did a similar thing.
They entered the NBA draft. Didn't announce until the last possible minute that they were withdrawing. If they had stayed in the draft, we would have been screwed.
They didn't announce their return until July.
Listen, I hope so. I’m rooting for Cliff and hope he’s able to find the missing pieces of a complete game down at Bama.
If Cliff is in the league (G or NBA), I’m taking my kids to the first game he’s local.
Alabama needs their heads examined. Cliff is good but no where near 1.4 million good.
Announced and gave Pike a heads up or an indication of their thinking are different things. I’d be surprised if Pike was totally caught off guard with Paul. I think he was blindsided by Cam - as Cam had already announced his intention to return.
Agreed on Cam. But after the NIT post game presser, did you seriously think Paul was coming back? After he handed out gift cards to all of the support staff before the last home game?
I could totally be wrong - but I thought it was kind of obvious Paul was unlikely to return.
I think he loves RU - as does Cliff.
And I think Pike did the right thing adjusting this year and asking players to make a decision within 2 weeks of the season ending.
Amount reported by Trilly Donovan.
Market for top tier centers is limited so the offers are sky high. When Cliff first entered the portal the expectation was offers near $1m. Clearly a bidding war broke out if two other schools offered $2m and $1.7m respectively.
Now if Alabama utilizes him appropriately Cliff can be a 15 & 10 guy. He didn't finish far from those numbers 2 years ago when Cam and Paul were running the offense and Bama's a much more high powered offense.
NBA is totally different than transferring. It is always understood that if a kid gets a favorable draft projection they should stay in the draft. And teams understand and expect that. Withdrawing from the draft and going to another college team is a completely different thing.
Agreed.
My only point was that Paul announced right after the NBA draft date.
If he had stayed in draft then Rutgers would have been in the same boat and losing a player very late.
