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I'd like to ask a few tough questions...

Do you think Rutgers University is committed to winning?

Did the university demonstrate that commitment with either the Pat Hobbs hire, or his hire of Chris Ash?

When President Barchi fired Julie Hermann does anyone know how he came to settle on Pat Hobbs? Was the hire influenced in anyway by Chris Christie?
 
I'd like to ask a few tough questions...

Do you think Rutgers University is committed to winning?

Did the university demonstrate that commitment with either the Pat Hobbs hire, or his hire of Chris Ash?

When President Barchi fired Julie Hermann does anyone know how he came to settle on Pat Hobbs? Was the hire influenced in anyway by Chris Christie?

Hey Redshirt? You employed by RU or state government, directly or indirectly? Seems like you're asking "focus group"-type questions. Interesting. What say you?
 
RU is committed to winning. They don't have the money to spend like other big ten programs yet but they spend what they can.
Ash and Hobbs were solid hires. Hobbs is extremely qualified and has done a great job thus far fundraising.
Ash was one of the top coordinators in the country last year.
Both Hobbs and ash fully know the deep rooted issues with RU athletics. Whether they can fix it remains to be seen.
 
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Hey Redshirt? You employed by RU or state government, directly or indirectly? Seems like you're asking "focus group"-type questions. Interesting. What say you?

Fair question Pinehurst.

The answer is no. I work for a private consulting firm in Manhattan. I ask questions for a living!
 
I'd like to ask a few tough questions...

Do you think Rutgers University is committed to winning?

Did the university demonstrate that commitment with either the Pat Hobbs hire, or his hire of Chris Ash?

When President Barchi fired Julie Hermann does anyone know how he came to settle on Pat Hobbs? Was the hire influenced in anyway by Chris Christie?

Rutgers is committed to going 6-6 in football in a good year and worse in down years. It is not all Rutgers fault, they don't have the backing of a large % of NJ population or the state itself to not only produce a top flight football team but to pony up the $$$ for a top flight Coach that has experience coaching at the D1 level. ( I realize the state doesn't have an obligation to finance a football team) but there are ways the state
Can help with facilities etc.
I thinks Hobbs is good but he can't perform miracles. Unless a rich Fairy Godmother donates 100 mil to the program RU will be stuck in mediocrity for a very long time.
On the other hand, the die hard RU fans are the best fans in the universe. Imagine being a die hard where your Football team greatest year was going to the Texas Bowl and only one time tied for a conference championship and ur basketball team has not been to a NCAA tourney in 25 years. In a world of front runners I think it is amazing that RU has the fan base it has. They deserve better!
 
Fair question Pinehurst.

The answer is no. I work for a private consulting firm in Manhattan. I ask questions for a living!
Is your name Bob?

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RU is committed to winning. They don't have the money to spend like other big ten programs yet but they spend what they can.
Ash and Hobbs were solid hires. Hobbs is extremely qualified and has done a great job thus far fundraising.
Ash was one of the top coordinators in the country last year.
Both Hobbs and ash fully know the deep rooted issues with RU athletics. Whether they can fix it remains to be seen.

How do you know they are solid hires ?
Because Hobbs had stellar results at Seton Hall ?
Ash has Zero heading coach experience ...and look at his hires at Offensive Coordinator and Special Teams Coach.
Way to early to make a statement like solid hires.
 
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Is your name Bob?

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Lol! I'm not one of these two!

I'm serious about these questions.

Rutgers University has been losing millions on Athletics for many years. Yet, the university administration continues to make curious hires for high level jobs. Are they just hoping to get lucky with these hires, or is there some tangible proof we are set on the correct path toward success on the athletic field?

I would love to know what other fans of the university think
 
Yes, committed.

Why is it so hard to realize after years of not being committed, it's going to take time??

Ash is right guy, and the team showed some spark with gio and minus the turnovers
 
Lol! I'm not one of these two!

I'm serious about these questions.

Rutgers University has been losing millions on Athletics for many years. Yet, the university administration continues to make curious hires for high level jobs. Are they just hoping to get lucky with these hires, or is there some tangible proof we are set on the correct path toward success on the athletic field?

I would love to know what other fans of the university think
So after 7 games, 3 of which are against top 5 teams in the nation, one of which we almost won against a team that played for the B1G championship and one yesterday we gave away with turnovers, you are jumping to conclusions on the hiring of Pat Hobbs and Chris Ash? Are you good with people?

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Or maybe you just have too much time to think while you are down in the basement trying to fix the bug problem. Hold onto your stapler, dude.
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Yes, committed.

Why is it so hard to realize after years of not being committed, it's going to take time??

Ash is right guy, and the team showed some spark with gio and minus the turnovers
The next step now is to play the long game. Start mostly freshman and sophomores the remainder of the season to get them as much experience as possible. It would make the transition that much easier next year. At this point the season is a wash despite not technically being mathematically eliminated from a bowl game yet.
 
I'd like to ask a few tough questions...

Do you think Rutgers University is committed to winning?

Did the university demonstrate that commitment with either the Pat Hobbs hire, or his hire of Chris Ash?

When President Barchi fired Julie Hermann does anyone know how he came to settle on Pat Hobbs? Was the hire influenced in anyway by Chris Christie?
I'll play along, simply because I don't care why anyone asks questions and these are good questions.

It is easier to start a ship in the right direction than to correct it after its been a long time at sea. So yes, I think the university is committed, but it's a qualified commitment since we don't really know how to do it, administratively speaking. It will happen initially more by trial and error than by intent, so there will be a measure of keep-trying-till-something-works impacting the process. Then we'll reverse engineer what we did right and hope to repeat it in the future if the need arises, and perhaps eliminate what we did wrong.

As for Hobbs, yes, he was a politically-influenced hire, and I'm fine with that because state government needs to be not only aware of the state university's existence, but supportive of it, especially of its most visible component, which is football and then basketball. As long as the state knows to stay at a long-arm's length in how to run the athletics department, a hire like Hobbs, who has connections and a conviviality that are helpful for someone in his position, is a step in getting the ship headed in the right direction. And given that he was an Ombudsman in Christie's administration and he was the outgoing president of Seton Hall Law, it's an easy connection to make between the Governor and Hobbs's hire.
 
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So after 7 games, 3 of which are against top 5 teams in the nation, one of which we almost won against a team that played for the B1G championship and one yesterday we gave away with turnovers, you are jumping to conclusions on the hiring of Pat Hobbs and Chris Ash? Are you good with people?

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Or maybe you just have too much time to think while you are down in the basement trying to fix the bug problem. Hold onto your stapler, dude.
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Obviously you have not been watching the same Football team for the last 4 and a half games. Same mental blunders over and over again, an Offensive Coordinator who has run a total of 10 different plays this season, Special Teams that is a complete disaster ( penalties , mental errors, players out of position, etc,
This has nothing to do with who RU is playing. But you are right, the Coaching staff has no accountability in this.
 
I'd like to ask a few tough questions...

Do you think Rutgers University is committed to winning?

Did the university demonstrate that commitment with either the Pat Hobbs hire, or his hire of Chris Ash?

When President Barchi fired Julie Hermann does anyone know how he came to settle on Pat Hobbs? Was the hire influenced in anyway by Chris Christie?
He didn't settle on Pat Hobbs.
 
The next step now is to play the long game. Start mostly freshman and sophomores the remainder of the season to get them as much experience as possible. It would make the transition that much easier next year. At this point the season is a wash despite not technically being mathematically eliminated from a bowl game yet.
We are not going to win any more games this year bring in the future now.
 
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Lol! I'm not one of these two!

I'm serious about these questions.

Rutgers University has been losing millions on Athletics for many years. Yet, the university administration continues to make curious hires for high level jobs. Are they just hoping to get lucky with these hires, or is there some tangible proof we are set on the correct path toward success on the athletic field?

I would love to know what other fans of the university think
It's always been a crap shoot with the jokers upstairs. They really don't have a clue when it comes to athletics. Look at the previous AD hire, with Kate Sweeney leading the way on that debacle of a search. Talk about agenda driven. "WE DID IT" right, Kate.

They're clueless. They made one good hire in Mulcahy(too early to tell with Hobbs early results positive) and then proceeded to run him out of town on the premise of a bogus investigative report by the Star Liar. For a supposed group of really smart people, they make some truly idiotic decisions. They maybe committed, but their shear incompetence is what really shines through. It makes it seem like they're half assing it.
 
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Lol! I'm not one of these two!

I'm serious about these questions.

Rutgers University has been losing millions on Athletics for many years. Yet, the university administration continues to make curious hires for high level jobs. Are they just hoping to get lucky with these hires, or is there some tangible proof we are set on the correct path toward success on the athletic field?

I would love to know what other fans of the university think
Rutgers is a perennial also ran of a program. The top names in the field are not coming here. By the time a coach or an athletic director has shown that they are good enough to be a sure thing, they're too good to take the Rutgers job. They have better options. So we have to be a bit creative and hope we get lucky and find the right guys. Though Chris Ash is hardly a choice out of left field. He was an assistant coordinator on a national championship team.
 
Rutgers is committed to going 6-6 in football in a good year and worse in down years. It is not all Rutgers fault, they don't have the backing of a large % of NJ population or the state itself to not only produce a top flight football team but to pony up the $$$ for a top flight Coach that has experience coaching at the D1 level. ( I realize the state doesn't have an obligation to finance a football team) but there are ways the state
Can help with facilities etc.
I thinks Hobbs is good but he can't perform miracles. Unless a rich Fairy Godmother donates 100 mil to the program RU will be stuck in mediocrity for a very long time.
On the other hand, the die hard RU fans are the best fans in the universe. Imagine being a die hard where your Football team greatest year was going to the Texas Bowl and only one time tied for a conference championship and ur basketball team has not been to a NCAA tourney in 25 years. In a world of front runners I think it is amazing that RU has the fan base it has. They deserve better!

$50M+...Coming soon to a Rutgers near you!
 
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I'll play along, simply because I don't care why anyone asks questions and these are good questions.

It is easier to start a ship in the right direction than to correct it after its been a long time at sea. So yes, I think the university is committed, but it's a qualified commitment since we don't really know how to do it, administratively speaking. It will happen initially more by trial and error than by intent, so there will be a measure of keep-trying-till-something-works impacting the process. Then we'll reverse engineer what we did right and hope to repeat it in the future if the need arises, and perhaps eliminate what we did wrong.

As for Hobbs, yes, he was a politically-influenced hire, and I'm fine with that because state government needs to be not only aware of the state university's existence, but supportive of it, especially of its most visible component, which is football and then basketball. As long as the state knows to stay at a long-arm's length in how to run the athletics department, a hire like Hobbs, who has connections and a conviviality that are helpful for someone in his position, is a step in getting the ship headed in the right direction. And given that he was an Ombudsman in Christie's administration and he was the outgoing president of Seton Hall Law, it's an easy connection to make between the Governor and Hobbs's hire.

I agree with you on his personality. He certainly seems to be connecting with the students, and most fans I've spoken to who've met him seem to like him. The big questions still remaining are can he hire good coaches, and connect with donors capable of making sizable contributions? He also has to be able to sell the athletic program to a major corporation ready to put their name on a few buildings. Is he that level of person? We'll find out very soon.
 
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I have been a Rutgers fan since I was in diapers and will continue to be when I once again rock my adult undies, which could be tomorrow. My next commitment will be to the Carrier Clinic after 50 years of this. In spite of all this I will wear my red or black and hope that my eulogy will include "they finally F'ing did it!!"
 
Hobbs is an excellent hire.

There is only so much you can do with current gap in resources. The players in this league are light years ahead. Full shares will help, but we need a lot more. Donate.

Ash was a very solid hire based on his position at the time and rep. We will see if he can get it done. Check back in year 4.

Pikiell and staff were also very strong to great hires. Already paying dividends.

Hobbs has been able to already help close the gap in Olympic sports through increased funding and donations are much higher. We need more, but he is doing in less than a year what no one else has been able to do in his position.
 
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You said you were shaking your head. Sorry. Listen you embarrass yourself every day here. I don't have that same right?
 
I'd like to ask a few tough questions...

Do you think Rutgers University is committed to winning?

Did the university demonstrate that commitment with either the Pat Hobbs hire, or his hire of Chris Ash?

When President Barchi fired Julie Hermann does anyone know how he came to settle on Pat Hobbs? Was the hire influenced in anyway by Chris Christie?
As a total outsider and just an observer, my opinion is Rutgers wants to win. I don't think anyone is committed to going 6-6. But I do think many are satisfied w/6-6 and that's where want and commitment conflict. Important thing is to at least be competitive in FB and Hoops, b/c that's where the eyeballs are and where perception is created. But the move to the BIG has created security for the entire athletic program and that is very positive.
 
I'd like to ask a few tough questions...

Do you think Rutgers University is committed to winning?

Did the university demonstrate that commitment with either the Pat Hobbs hire, or his hire of Chris Ash?

When President Barchi fired Julie Hermann does anyone know how he came to settle on Pat Hobbs? Was the hire influenced in anyway by Chris Christie?

1. No

2. N/a see answer to number 1.

3. He was impressed with Hobbs . Maybe . Hard to tell.
 
Hobbs is an excellent hire.

There is only so much you can do with current gap in resources. The players in this league are light years ahead. Full shares will help, but we need a lot more. Donate.

Ash was a very solid hire based on his position at the time and rep. We will see if he can get it done. Check back in year 4.

Pikiell and staff were also very strong to great hires. Already paying dividends.

Hobbs has been able to already help close the gap in Olympic sports through increased funding and donations are much higher. We need more, but he is doing in less than a year what no one else has been able to do in his position.
Agree with all of this, but I would qualify my response to the question of whether the administration is committed to "winning" based upon the definition of "winning" in regards to the fans versus the administration. For a lot of fans winning means being in a position to compete for a spot in the B1G championship game and the playoffs, based on my experiences with the Rutgers administration that would not be their definition of winning. Their definition would be closer to what most fans would call competitive, middle of the pack, bowl eligible, etc. Let's put if this way, Ash will have the opportunity to be the Rutgers HC for a very, very long time if can deliver 6-8 win seasons on a consistent basis.
 
True. But it's a helluva a lot easier to be committed to winning when your football team is bringing in more revenue than almost every other school, as opposed to the least.

It ain't hard throwing resources at something when you have them. We are a small market team who needs to innovate, stretch resources, and frankly, get a little lucky.

We are competing with Apple on a start up budget.
 
People - you do recognize troll posts, don't you? Whenever you see a poster with a vaguely RU sounding username, who has less than 50 posts, and this person starts a thread asking some sort of question about the program, you know it's a troll. NCAAballz that Nova troll, has been doing it for years with multiple usernames - this one fits his MO.
 
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People - you do recognize troll posts, don't you? Whenever you see a poster with a vaguely RU sounding username, who has less than 50 posts, and this person starts a thread asking some sort of question about the program, you know it's a troll. NCAAballz that Nova troll, has been doing it for years with multiple usernames - this one fits his MO.
Goes back to my previous post of the Mods not policing the board.
 
I'd like to ask a few tough questions...

Do you think Rutgers University is committed to winning?

Did the university demonstrate that commitment with either the Pat Hobbs hire, or his hire of Chris Ash?

When President Barchi fired Julie Hermann does anyone know how he came to settle on Pat Hobbs? Was the hire influenced in anyway by Chris Christie?

He was hired because of his college football experience with Seton Hall.
 
I'd like to ask a few tough questions...

Do you think Rutgers University is committed to winning?

Did the university demonstrate that commitment with either the Pat Hobbs hire, or his hire of Chris Ash?

When President Barchi fired Julie Hermann does anyone know how he came to settle on Pat Hobbs? Was the hire influenced in anyway by Chris Christie?
I'm more curious about whether or not you're committed to winning.
 
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