Does a conference’s success in the tournament affect the conference’s payout from the tourney?
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Does a conference’s success in the tournament affect the conference’s payout from the tourney?
But doesn't a conference with by far the most teams. With 14 have a significant advantage to get the most teams in ? (No I haven't looked at the bracket seedings to do any analysis but just a general statement, thought. )you are making my point for me
everyone on here is screaming how S&ITTY the SEC was this year and overrated but yall just dont get it that nobody was left out that belonged in the tournament
the first round cuts out half the field so its very easy to dissect 1-2 leagues who lost some games early
there is a real good possibility the SEC has BY FAR the most teams left going into the sweet 16 and then touting how overrated it is sounds silly
the B10 looked good round 1 but are by seeding likely to only get a couple of those teams into the 2nd weekend so we just have to wait and see
I mean someone is going to get the most teams in and like I said yesterday on another thread the SEC is going to start to impose their will with their elite teams remainingBut doesn't a conference with by far the most teams. With 14 have a significant advantage to get the most teams in ? (No I haven't looked at the bracket seedings to do any analysis but just a general statement, thought. )
But doesn't a conference with by far the most teams. With 14 have a significant advantage to get the most teams in ? (No I haven't looked at the bracket seedings to do any analysis but just a general statement, thought. )
7 SEC
4 B1G
4 B12
1 ACC
16/16 P4 conferences, no Big East teams.
Still the chalkiest tournament in a long time and the portal is a big factorBy seed:
SEC: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 6, 10
B1G: 2, 2, 4, 5
B12: 1, 3, 4, 6
ACC: 1
Many will say "but it's just different" but why isn't Arkansas a "Cinderella" as a 10 seed?
Still a double digital seed who beat a tournament favorite (St. Johns)
This and its not a good for thing for longtime fans of the tourneyStill the chalkiest tournament in a long time and the portal is a big factor
don't like normal. The insanity is why it is called March Madness, not Normal March :)It's one tournament. I understand the logical argument you guys are making but was last year chalky? I don't think you can conclude from one year of fewer upsets that all the upsets are gone. If anything, this year is more normal and the last few were extra insane with 16s beating 1s, 15s making the elite 8, 14s making the sweet 16 etc.
nice work Nick. Thanks.By seed:
SEC: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 6, 10
B1G: 2, 2, 4, 5
B12: 1, 3, 4, 6
ACC: 1
Many will say "but it's just different" but why isn't Arkansas a "Cinderella" as a 10 seed?
Still a double digital seed who beat a tournament favorite (St. Johns)
this year there is a far more pronounced impact of NIL and transfer portal than either of the past two yearsIt's one tournament. I understand the logical argument you guys are making but was last year chalky? I don't think you can conclude from one year of fewer upsets that all the upsets are gone. If anything, this year is more normal and the last few were extra insane with 16s beating 1s, 15s making the elite 8, 14s making the sweet 16 etc.
To be fair, the games are less over than they seem.. the high variance, high pace, shoot a ton of threes style results in more 15+ point leads being opened up. It also makes those 15+ leads correspondingly less safe.the style of play has changed and some of these games are really over in the first half. The attention paid to defense has waned and what is interesting is that adjustments are hard to come by. Its become a NBA game and I do no like it.
you may not think he is the greatest coach on earth and he may very well be mid tier amongst the 16 coaches remaining but Nate Oats at Alabama was far ahead of this trend a few years ago when he got to Alabamathe style of play has changed and some of these games are really over in the first half. The attention paid to defense has waned and what is interesting is that adjustments are hard to come by. Its become a NBA game and I do no like it.
As a sidebar (FYI, good work, but a typo - the Big 10 seeds left are: 2, 4, 4, 5)), THREE (3) of the remaining Big 10 teams will be facing #1 seeds (the 2 #4 seeds (Maryland and Purdue) and the #5 Seed (Michigan). Tough row to hoe for the conference.By seed:
SEC: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 6, 10
B1G: 2, 2, 4, 5
B12: 1, 3, 4, 6
ACC: 1
Many will say "but it's just different" but why isn't Arkansas a "Cinderella" as a 10 seed?
Still a double digital seed who beat a tournament favorite (St. Johns)
This was inevitable. Major conferences control. Nothing unexpected and it will get more pronounced. "Football" conferences rule.![]()
NCAA Tournament Has Turned Into Power Conference Haves vs. Cinderella Have-Nots
College sports gigantism isn’t just for football. It has taken over March Madness as well. For the first time in history, the men’s basketball Sweet 16 is comprwww.si.com
I will plenty fine if they break this up into two tournaments in the future.. class A Super Conference and Class B all other.![]()
NCAA Tournament Has Turned Into Power Conference Haves vs. Cinderella Have-Nots
College sports gigantism isn’t just for football. It has taken over March Madness as well. For the first time in history, the men’s basketball Sweet 16 is comprwww.si.com
you would basically be getting the NCAA tournament and a new version of the NIT when it matteredI will plenty fine if they break this up into two tournaments in the future.. class A Super Conference and Class B all other.
That because you're not associated with one of those schools. In Football the FCS matters as do the other Div Playoffs.you would basically be getting the NCAA tournament and a new version of the NIT when it mattered
except this time it still won't matter because everyone will know who the actual national champion is
i have no interest in a secondary tournament
I don't see that as the same thing... if youre saying were basically going to create another division above division 1 it would take a lot of years i think to create any excitement for the people left behind in that division or levelThat because you're not associated with one of those schools. In Football the FCS matters as do the other Div Playoffs.
To each their own. I'll be gone before this crap gets fixed anyway and I'll expire before Rutgers ever returns to the relevance I experienced OTB from 77-83.
Yeah I don't know.. I think that super conf. Thing could happen in say 5 (well yes that's years and I didn't say it would happen tomorrow). And being in a league of peers like Pitt, Cuse, Virginia, Iowa, Minny, etc. with a chance to win something meaningful would be great fun for me.I don't see that as the same thing... if youre saying were basically going to create another division above division 1 it would take a lot of years i think to create any excitement for the people left behind in that division or level
Yeah I don't know.. I think that super conf. Thing could happen in say 5 (well yes that's years and I didn't say it would happen tomorrow). And being in a league of peers like Pitt, Cuse, Virginia, Iowa, Minny, etc. with a chance to win something meaningful would be great fun for me.
Well those people probably weren't in the lobby with you lolAs a student, I sat in the RAC lobby twice to get tickets to the 2004 NIT Semis and Finals.
I don't remember anyone saying "eh not interested since it's not the actual NCAA tournament."
Those D-2 schools all seem pretty happy when they win championships.