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Conference Records After 1st Round

Does a conference’s success in the tournament affect the conference’s payout from the tourney?
 
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Does a conference’s success in the tournament affect the conference’s payout from the tourney?

Yes. Each win gets approximately $2m for the conference.


Each of the 132 units up for grabs on the men’s side in recent years have been worth about $2 million, according to multiple reports. Conferences distribute the money, paid out over six years, to their schools as they see fit.
 
you are making my point for me

everyone on here is screaming how S&ITTY the SEC was this year and overrated but yall just dont get it that nobody was left out that belonged in the tournament

the first round cuts out half the field so its very easy to dissect 1-2 leagues who lost some games early

there is a real good possibility the SEC has BY FAR the most teams left going into the sweet 16 and then touting how overrated it is sounds silly

the B10 looked good round 1 but are by seeding likely to only get a couple of those teams into the 2nd weekend so we just have to wait and see
But doesn't a conference with by far the most teams. With 14 have a significant advantage to get the most teams in ? (No I haven't looked at the bracket seedings to do any analysis but just a general statement, thought. )
 
But doesn't a conference with by far the most teams. With 14 have a significant advantage to get the most teams in ? (No I haven't looked at the bracket seedings to do any analysis but just a general statement, thought. )
I mean someone is going to get the most teams in and like I said yesterday on another thread the SEC is going to start to impose their will with their elite teams remaining
 
But doesn't a conference with by far the most teams. With 14 have a significant advantage to get the most teams in ? (No I haven't looked at the bracket seedings to do any analysis but just a general statement, thought. )

Round of 64:
7-1 as higher seed
0-3 in 8/9 games
1-1 as lower seed (#10 Arkansas over #7 Kansas)

(Texas lost #11 play-in. Similar to 8/9 toss up).

So they basically held serve.
They lost 1 game they should have won (#6 Missouri to #11 Drake).
Won 1 game they should have lost (#10 Arkasnas over #7 Kansas).
Lost all the toss up games though.

Round of 32 so far:
4-1 as higher seed (lost #4 arm to #5 Michigan
1-0 as lower seed (#10 Arkansas over #2 St. Johns).

I would say Arkansas more than makes up for aTm.
 
Teams that are part of a power conference and don't get a NCAA bid shouldn't get any reward for other league teams success.
 
7 SEC (15-7)
4 B1G (12-4)
4 B12 (10-3)
1 ACC (3-3)

16/16 P4 conferences, no Big East teams(4-5).

ACC is the little brother conference in football and basketball.
Football Clemson FSU, basketball Duke UNC.
 
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7 SEC
4 B1G
4 B12
1 ACC

16/16 P4 conferences, no Big East teams.

By seed:

SEC: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 6, 10
B1G: 2, 2, 4, 5
B12: 1, 3, 4, 6
ACC: 1

Many will say "but it's just different" but why isn't Arkansas a "Cinderella" as a 10 seed?
Still a double digital seed who beat a tournament favorite (St. Johns)
 
By seed:

SEC: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 6, 10
B1G: 2, 2, 4, 5
B12: 1, 3, 4, 6
ACC: 1

Many will say "but it's just different" but why isn't Arkansas a "Cinderella" as a 10 seed?
Still a double digital seed who beat a tournament favorite (St. Johns)
Still the chalkiest tournament in a long time and the portal is a big factor
 
It's one tournament. I understand the logical argument you guys are making but was last year chalky? I don't think you can conclude from one year of fewer upsets that all the upsets are gone. If anything, this year is more normal and the last few were extra insane with 16s beating 1s, 15s making the elite 8, 14s making the sweet 16 etc.
 
It's one tournament. I understand the logical argument you guys are making but was last year chalky? I don't think you can conclude from one year of fewer upsets that all the upsets are gone. If anything, this year is more normal and the last few were extra insane with 16s beating 1s, 15s making the elite 8, 14s making the sweet 16 etc.
don't like normal. The insanity is why it is called March Madness, not Normal March :)

Now the games should get more entertaining going ahead with the competition level but it is a different thing. Should finish nicely as it was starting to build already IMHO.
 
By seed:

SEC: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 6, 10
B1G: 2, 2, 4, 5
B12: 1, 3, 4, 6
ACC: 1

Many will say "but it's just different" but why isn't Arkansas a "Cinderella" as a 10 seed?
Still a double digital seed who beat a tournament favorite (St. Johns)
nice work Nick. Thanks.
 
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It's one tournament. I understand the logical argument you guys are making but was last year chalky? I don't think you can conclude from one year of fewer upsets that all the upsets are gone. If anything, this year is more normal and the last few were extra insane with 16s beating 1s, 15s making the elite 8, 14s making the sweet 16 etc.
this year there is a far more pronounced impact of NIL and transfer portal than either of the past two years

the portal was rampant this year exponentially more than the previous year and NIL took off this year far more than the previous year

plus you now had two cycles for major conference schools to poach the lower leagues and i think you will see more of the same next year

sure you will get probably 2-3 "upsets" now with the mcneeses and drakes of the world if you consider drake a cinderella they have a better tournament history than rutgers over the last 20 years along with 90% of the other ncaa schools

i dont think it was particular coincidence that there was more blowouts this year than i can recall in the last decade or more
 
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the style of play has changed and some of these games are really over in the first half. The attention paid to defense has waned and what is interesting is that adjustments are hard to come by. Its become a NBA game and I do no like it.
 
the style of play has changed and some of these games are really over in the first half. The attention paid to defense has waned and what is interesting is that adjustments are hard to come by. Its become a NBA game and I do no like it.
To be fair, the games are less over than they seem.. the high variance, high pace, shoot a ton of threes style results in more 15+ point leads being opened up. It also makes those 15+ leads correspondingly less safe.
 
the style of play has changed and some of these games are really over in the first half. The attention paid to defense has waned and what is interesting is that adjustments are hard to come by. Its become a NBA game and I do no like it.
you may not think he is the greatest coach on earth and he may very well be mid tier amongst the 16 coaches remaining but Nate Oats at Alabama was far ahead of this trend a few years ago when he got to Alabama

he either saw the writing on the wall and said im going to get ahead of it and get better at it than everyone else before they catch up or he is a basketball genius

Florida plays much the same way now too

get up and down the court... 3s and dunks are the only good shots...and were either going to turn you over quickly or hope for a rebound and fast break
 
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By seed:

SEC: 1, 1, 2, 2, 3, 6, 10
B1G: 2, 2, 4, 5
B12: 1, 3, 4, 6
ACC: 1

Many will say "but it's just different" but why isn't Arkansas a "Cinderella" as a 10 seed?
Still a double digital seed who beat a tournament favorite (St. Johns)
As a sidebar (FYI, good work, but a typo - the Big 10 seeds left are: 2, 4, 4, 5)), THREE (3) of the remaining Big 10 teams will be facing #1 seeds (the 2 #4 seeds (Maryland and Purdue) and the #5 Seed (Michigan). Tough row to hoe for the conference.
 
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I will plenty fine if they break this up into two tournaments in the future.. class A Super Conference and Class B all other.
you would basically be getting the NCAA tournament and a new version of the NIT when it mattered

except this time it still won't matter because everyone will know who the actual national champion is

i have no interest in a secondary tournament
 
you would basically be getting the NCAA tournament and a new version of the NIT when it mattered

except this time it still won't matter because everyone will know who the actual national champion is

i have no interest in a secondary tournament
That because you're not associated with one of those schools. In Football the FCS matters as do the other Div Playoffs.
To each their own. I'll be gone before this crap gets fixed anyway and I'll expire before Rutgers ever returns to the relevance I experienced OTB from 77-83.
 
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That because you're not associated with one of those schools. In Football the FCS matters as do the other Div Playoffs.
To each their own. I'll be gone before this crap gets fixed anyway and I'll expire before Rutgers ever returns to the relevance I experienced OTB from 77-83.
I don't see that as the same thing... if youre saying were basically going to create another division above division 1 it would take a lot of years i think to create any excitement for the people left behind in that division or level
 
I don't see that as the same thing... if youre saying were basically going to create another division above division 1 it would take a lot of years i think to create any excitement for the people left behind in that division or level
Yeah I don't know.. I think that super conf. Thing could happen in say 5 (well yes that's years and I didn't say it would happen tomorrow). And being in a league of peers like Pitt, Cuse, Virginia, Iowa, Minny, etc. with a chance to win something meaningful would be great fun for me.
 
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Yeah I don't know.. I think that super conf. Thing could happen in say 5 (well yes that's years and I didn't say it would happen tomorrow). And being in a league of peers like Pitt, Cuse, Virginia, Iowa, Minny, etc. with a chance to win something meaningful would be great fun for me.

As a student, I sat in the RAC lobby twice to get tickets to the 2004 NIT Semis and Finals.

I don't remember anyone saying "eh not interested since it's not the actual NCAA tournament."

Those D-2 schools all seem pretty happy when they win championships.
 
As a student, I sat in the RAC lobby twice to get tickets to the 2004 NIT Semis and Finals.

I don't remember anyone saying "eh not interested since it's not the actual NCAA tournament."

Those D-2 schools all seem pretty happy when they win championships.
Well those people probably weren't in the lobby with you lol
 
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