Current situation

[higgins3]

Hey folks, hope all is well with you guys. I have not been able to get on here as much since I am trying to hone in on some career work.

Just had a couple thoughts. I think the recent pick up of Dailey is a decent one. I think he has the selfless play we need here and the size. He mentioned wanting to play for Eddie Jordan, which makes you think Jordan gets another year.

With the current state of affairs and injuries, the results the team has been getting should seem expected. Still, Jordan brought along a lot of staff from the NBA-one being a strength and conditioning coach. Other fellow just got put in a position with less responsibility.So i think Jordan needs to do a better job at hiring.

I see Jordan getting one more year to show his stuff. I am not a big fan of NBA coaches coming to the college level, and would almost prefer a HS coach with a winning pedigree over an NBA coach. A HS coach has the contacts, can relate to young players, and knows the transition. NBA coaches I feel don't have to do as much coaching, and every piece of talent they get is usually pretty good. Jordan not wanting to teach rebounding is obviously scary, and the basics should be reinforced everyday as they are the things you can improve on quickly.

I hope we get a couple more wins.With Sanders play and the temptations of NBA, you wonder if he stays another year. It sounds like he knew what he was coming into, but with him being a mentally tough kid who has persevered through struggles, NBA has to be a temptation. One more year would benefit him though, but kids don't wait these days.

If he stays, Jordan probably gets one more year to prove to Hobbs if Sanders, Johnson,Williams, Foreman and Freeman can do some work together.

Hope all is well. GORU

 

[MadRU]

Welcome back Higs

 

[knights1212]

Great to see you are still around. I'm glad you didn't give up on RU. We need you to post every once in a while. I personally do not see Corey ready for the NBA. I think he will be in college for at least 3 years. He is very good but the NBA is a really tough league.

 

[RU-ROCS]

I'm a big Corey fan. But, if Melo Trimble wasn't ready last year, there's no was Corey is NBA material this year. I think a much bigger risk is that someone convinces him to transfer, given the dismal year RU is having and uncertainty about Eddie's future.

 

[MADHAT1]

Glad you're back

 

[PiscatawayMike]

I'm a big Corey fan. But, if Melo Trimble wasn't ready last year, there's no was Corey is NBA material this year. I think a much bigger risk is that someone convinces him to transfer, given the dismal year RU is having and uncertainty about Eddie's future.

I don't think Corey will transfer. The last thing he wants to do is sit out a year.

 

[RUonBrain]

NBA?

That's funny

(Not that I'm not rooting for the kid to develop for 4 years)

 

[bac2therac]

welcome back Higgins

 

[TruJerz]

I'm probably the biggest supporter of Corey Sanders and his game on here..but there is no way he goes to the league after 1 year at RU..unless we're talking overseas or the DLeague. I always said he's gonna be an NBA player and I still stand by that. He's been as good as expected if not better in some areas

But I believe it'll take at least 3 years of college hoops for him. He's not even on any of the major mock drafts yet but I do think another year of improvement and he'll begin to be on the radar. With that being said, I really do wonder if he'll stick around at RU. Someone pointed out that they don't believe that he'd sit out an entire year and I tend to agree with that. I believe he enjoys the game too much but who knows with these kids these days

 

[TDIrish27]

The NBA is out of the question.

Hope he stays----IMO it's in his best interest to stay for 4 years off of what I've seen thus far.

EJ IMO deserves 4 years------I think college hoops is about fit and I don't think he's a good fit here but given the circumstances he inherited and the depleted roster IMO he should get Year 4.

 

[higgins3]

Hope he stays----IMO it's in his best interest to stay for 4 years off of what I've seen thus far.

EJ IMO deserves 4 years------I think college hoops is about fit and I don't think he's a good fit here but given the circumstances he inherited and the depleted roster IMO he should get Year 4.[/QUOTE]


I think Jordan will get one more year. We are not in the mind of Sanders, but he is putting up Trimble numbers right now. Like anotherposter mentioned, I don't see him waiting a year to play when he could have a sniff at the draft in 2017. I think he sees a future with Johnson and Freeman. I think if he played at RU next year, he could be wanted in 2017.

Never know the minds of kids, but the money is hard to pass on. His skill and size at 6 1 and 15 points, 5 assist a game is something a NBA team needs.

 

[higgins3]

I'm probably the biggest supporter of Corey Sanders and his game on here..but there is no way he goes to the league after 1 year at RU..unless we're talking overseas or the DLeague. I always said he's gonna be an NBA player and I still stand by that. He's been as good as expected if not better in some areas

But I believe it'll take at least 3 years of college hoops for him. He's not even on any of the major mock drafts yet but I do think another year of improvement and he'll begin to be on the radar. With that being said, I really do wonder if he'll stick around at RU. Someone pointed out that they don't believe that he'd sit out an entire year and I tend to agree with that. I believe he enjoys the game too much but who knows with these kids these days

I t hink 2017 is very possible for him to declare the draft. Why not?Best freshman in the big ten, athletic enough, 3 ball is okay-decent. Passes well. I do not think he is here for 4 years. His best friend Bacon might be on the 2016 draft.

 

[higgins3]

NBA?

That's funny

(Not that I'm not rooting for the kid to develop for 4 years)

You don't think he is an NBA player?

 

[higgins3]

I'm a big Corey fan. But, if Melo Trimble wasn't ready last year, there's no was Corey is NBA material this year. I think a much bigger risk is that someone convinces him to transfer, given the dismal year RU is having and uncertainty about Eddie's future.

Sanders has the same numbers as Trimble right now. He would probably be better off waiting another year.

 

[Local Shill]

He's not the best freshman in the B1G. Good but not the best.

 

[RUsojo]

Rutgers fans think every 4 star the comes to the banks is a leave early NBA player. I'd laugh but it's not funny anymore.

 

[higgins3]

He's not the best freshman in the B1G. Good but not the best.

Who is the leading freshman scorer in the big ten?I can't find the research.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Who is the leading freshman scorer in the big ten?I can't find the research.

Trimble on RU would score 18 PPG...Sanders on Maryland would score 5 PPG.

 

[RUonBrain]

You don't think he is an NBA player?

No

 

[RickB113]

I LOVE Corey Sanders, but the NBA is beyond elite. Toughest of the pro sports to make. Guards in the NBA are rarely below 6'5. Of course there are some. But he needs to be a lights out shooter and maybe he can become that by the time he leaves the banks, but he has a long way to go. I am rooting for him, because he seems like a great kid and a good teammate. Look at mock drafts though. There are some STUDS that go in the second round and going in the second round almost means little to no chance of making it. So if you are not a guaranteed first rounder you should not go pro.

 

[knights1212]

I believe Corey is the highest scoring freshman in the BIG but I think the Stone freshman from Maryland will get the Freshman Player of the Year in the league. He is on a top ranked team and is getting an awful lot of attention. He might be a first round draft pick.

 

[higgins3]

Point gurds in the nba are usuall

I LOVE Corey Sanders, but the NBA is beyond elite. Toughest of the pro sports to make. Guards in the NBA are rarely below 6'5. Of course there are some. But he needs to be a lights out shooter and maybe he can become that by the time he leaves the banks, but he has a long way to go. I am rooting for him, because he seems like a great kid and a good teammate. Look at mock drafts though. There are some STUDS that go in the second round and going in the second round almost means little to no chance of making it. So if you are not a guaranteed first rounder you should not go pro.

Point guards in the nba are usually 6 2 -65. Myles Mack was too small and not athletic enough for nba standards Sanders is a different player.The NBA is beyond elite in levels of athleticism- and that is probably Sanders strongest attribute.

 

[higgins3]

Trimble on RU would score 18 PPG...Sanders on Maryland would score 5 PPG.

Agree to disagree. Sanders would no score 5 points oon Maryland. He would still be a 7-10 ppg kid. If not more. Same conference,right?

Sanders is the focal point of this team for all the right reasons. He is the deadliest player off the dribble and can get to the paint well. Who else can be relied upon?

 

[higgins3]

No

We will see. The nba puts the highest emphasis on athleticism, not skills. He will do very well from that perspective. Before we can say he is not that caliber of player, we have to ask ourselves what does the NBA want. They want high octane athletes who bring people out of their seats. They do not want high octane defenders and players with high level of fundamentals.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Higgins....watch ESPN, ESPN2, BTN or go to the RAC you will see how many outstanding players there are.

 

[higgins3]

Higgins....watch ESPN, ESPN2, BTN or go to the RAC you will see how many outstanding players there are.

Fig, I am aware of those stations. I see what the NBA wants though, and most of the time it has very little to do with fundamental/defensive skill. They want unreal athletes, and Sanders is that.He leads scoring in a power conference for his year. All I am saying is I think he can make it, and since his past is on all over the net, I hope he can make it. He has been through a lot.

 

[RickB113]

Fig, I am aware of those stations. I see what the NBA wants though, and most of the time it has very little to do with fundamental/defensive skill. They want unreal athletes, and Sanders is that.He leads scoring in a power conference for his year. All I am saying is I think he can make it, and since his past is on all over the net, I hope he can make it. He has been through a lot.

The idea that the nba doesn't play defense is a myth. Guys play D and they especially play d in the playoffs. They do not value athleticism over anything else.

 

[Greene Rice FIG]

Sanders isn't the most athletic guy on the team.

 

[higgins3]

The idea that the nba doesn't play defense is a myth. Guys play D and they especially play d in the playoffs. They do not value athleticism over anything else.

Kevin durant just said it yesterday. "The league values athleticism more than skills a lot" Something to that nature. I see more defense being played in college than nba. I see a lot of defense that is considered lazy in the nba.

 

[higgins3]

Sanders isn't the most athletic guy on the team.

Sanders of Johnson are the most athletic guys on the team. I have heard many people say that.

 

[Local Shill]

#2 might be more athletic as far as hops and speed but #3 is clearly a better player. Either way, NBA talk for Corey is crazy at this point. If he's in a Rutgers uniform on opening night in November 2016, let's consider that a win.

 

[PatrickRU92]

I also love Sanders, but there is 0% chance he can play in the NBA next year. Point guards are a dime a dozen and he needs to be one of the top 5 or 10 in the country to even SNIFF the NBA.

The NBA is a rarity even for the best college players. You have to be the best of the best of the best (unless you are 7'5") to have a shot. Way too many talented players in the world--keep in mind NBA drafts a ton of internationals nowadays. This isnt 30 years ago.

 

[dollarbill]

Maybe Sanders wants to develop his game under EJ and get a college degree at the same time. He looks like a solid individual who is going places. $$$$

 

[higgins3]

I also love Sanders, but there is 0% chance he can play in the NBA next year. Point guards are a dime a dozen and he needs to be one of the top 5 or 10 in the country to even SNIFF the NBA.

The NBA is a rarity even for the best college players. You have to be the best of the best of the best (unless you are 7'5") to have a shot. Way too many talented players in the world--keep in mind NBA drafts a ton of internationals nowadays. This isnt 30 years ago.

Absolutely. I do think he makes it to the NBA at one point if he can stay healthy. They draft a lt of international players because they are fundamentally sound. As the conversation has continued, maybe he doesn't make it next year, but eventually I think he has a shot. Bestscoring freshman in the Big ten right now says something to agents and owners. It is a p5 conference.

 

[TDIrish27]

You have to factor in the fact that he is playing against backups for long stretches as many of the games are decided early.

Hopefully he develops into that kind of prospect but he has long way to go to become an NBA player .

 

[cyrock3]

I trust higgins evaluation. He's been pretty spot on in his evaluations.

One of the smartest posters on this board.

 

[TruJerz]

I believe Sanders will be an NBA player but he's not a one and done guy by any means. It's not just about the numbers. There are plenty of players in Division 1 hoops who never sniff the NBA who put up gaudy numbers.

Sanders athleticism, his passing ability, and his defense should give him a shot to make an NBA roster one day. I kind of see him being an Elfrid Payton type of player in the NBA but he'll have to play at least another year of college hoops before he even thinks of putting his name in the draft..2 more ideally. He's not even on the radar as of now but he'll get there if he continues to improve and excel against Big 10 competition

 

[RutgHoops]

Was watching Kansas/Iowa State play yesterday and was fairly surprised to see how experienced Kansas is. Iowa State starts 3 Seniors and 2 Juniors.

Ellis (Senior), Selden Jr (Junior), Mason iii (Junior), Greene (Junior), Lucas (Junior) and sixth man Graham (Soph). That's a lot of experience from a roster made up of Top 50/McD's AA's.

As for Corey, he is as talented a kid that has entered the program in a long while. Hard work and experience and he has a shot at the league.

 

[higgins3]

You have to factor in the fact that he is playing against backups for long stretches as many of the games are decided early.

Hopefully he develops into that kind of prospect but he has long way to go to become an NBA player .

Solid point. Still, he has performed against starters and has done well. Indiana he faced yogi farrel for majority of the game, maryland he faced trimble for fifteen minutes.

 

[higgins3]

I believe Sanders will be an NBA player but he's not a one and done guy by any means. It's not just about the numbers. There are plenty of players in Division 1 hoops who never sniff the NBA who put up gaudy numbers.

Sanders athleticism, his passing ability, and his defense should give him a shot to make an NBA roster one day. I kind of see him being an Elfrid Payton type of player in the NBA but he'll have to play at least another year of college hoops before he even thinks of putting his name in the draft..2 more ideally. He's not even on the radar as of now but he'll get there if he continues to improve and excel against Big 10 competition

Solid points. He has the benefit of being in a power five conference, unlike a lot of d1 players. Standing out and scoring the most in the freshman class in the big ten is not an easy feat.

Thanks for the reply. I hope he has a couple more years with RU. A player like him I could see leaving after his sophmore year so I don't think he would want to wait two years to play. He sees potential in other players as well. Who knows what happens with Jordan. I don't think he is the right person for the job. He will probably get another year as well.