I know most won’t agree, and won’t happen, BUT..here me out.
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It’s ok I can take it…. I’ve also had a bunch of spot on calls it balances out
Flagg is the better player, however when you guys say ace doesn't play defense you are selling him short. Especially the last couple games. I'd like to see him play within more structure defensively and offensively. He gets into trouble when he tries to do too much on both ends. Flagg looks comfortable now, ace will start rushing his shot trying to get it off before a double team. Flagg is also a play maker for Duke and handles the ball more securely in the lane than Ace. But it's all confidence, things can change by end of season, it's not as wide a gap as you may think.
The bigger problem with this one is that in reality, even if Dylan and Ace did decide to return to college (and no it’s not going to happen) it would make zero sense for them to return to Rutgers after how badly this season went. Like honestly - if hypothetically a rule was instated requiring 2 years of college prior to entry into the draft instead of one, they would almost certainly go elsewhere. So yeah - this one feels like a pretty bad take.
They seem to be going down more often than not, I know you can pull up the stats lol
Damn this thread has people making player comps to guys who played in the NBA decades before these two were born… the game has changed fellas. And Ace Bailey and Dylan Harper are pro’s
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Very early this year I think you (and others) corrected me when I suggested Ace could use more time in college.. compared to Harper. You guys CORRECTLY suggested that Ace would be drafted on potential alone... that he would have been drafted (and perhaps very early) if he skipped college.
You still see the frosh in Ace. You all know when it happens.. it is obvious.. mode much more obvious because it stands out so much compared to his NBA STAR plays.. which are much more abundant.
Ace and Dylan are clearly the real deal. OP is insane on that point. But the talent of the rest of our team.. its there.. and when they execute Pike's D like they did in the first half.. you can see the potential. If they stick together they can be a real nice team going forward if we get some complimentary players who can play D like Pike needs AND hit shots.
Dylan has a closer body type to Magic Johnson than Iverson. I’d compare Harper more to like Grant Hill.
But he doesn't play anything like Grant Hill (or Magic Johnson). He plays like Allen Iverson (at least he does when we're winning). He kind of reminds me of a better Steve Francis, too.
That’s why it’s criminal that grant and even Dortch haven’t played until recent. They should have got time during OOC.
They are NOT looking to score first(ala Dercack/Jwill) rather they are your hard hat guys
Who have length and can rebound. Those are the areas that have killed us and can be extremely complimentary to Ace/Harp.
Last night we saw more maturity out of JMike, yet he is still a bit of a disaster. Also Acuff finally emerged for what we need him for—8-10yrs per game and a few assists.
Not to beat you up more then you already have been but you started your post by saying this gem:
“MOST people don’t think Ace nor Dylan pass the NBA eye test right now.”
Seeing that ALL draft boards have them in the top 5 (and MOST in the top 3) it seems the ONLY person who thinks that is you.
“Ace is too young, thin, and inconsistent.”
See unchanged draft boards
“Dylan is loosing stock” what evidence of that? see unchanged draft boards
And then you doubled-down with this: “They BOTH should say “run it back”, and gain valuable experience and be clearly 1 and 1A”
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Correct. And IF we have a healthy team, these 5 freshman will have had a whole regular season of playing and developing at the highest level of college hoops. This team, IF HEALTHY, can be tough to beat in a single elimination BIG Tournament. We will see.
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