Yeh he could develop into a better ballhandler and distributor. Is he quick enough as an NBA PG?
Ace and Dylan Top 3? Sorry. Don’t see it…
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Considering how awful Ace and Dylan appear to be and it seems they won't ever develop - good thing they are leaving.
Imagine being saddled with Ace and Dylan in 3 years?
Ugh. What a terrible waste of roster space that would be......
Imagine being saddled with Ace and Dylan in 3 years?
Ugh. What a terrible waste of roster space that would be......
Considering how awful Ace and Dylan appear to be and it seems they won't ever develop - good thing they are leaving.
Imagine being saddled with Ace and Dylan in 3 years?
Ugh. What a terrible waste of roster space that would be......
I don’t even agree with this thread but you put up the most amazing straw men sometimes lol.
Does saying someone isn’t a top 3 pick imply they are terrible?
Is there a single poster on this entire website who wouldn’t be thrilled to have Ace and Dylan if we knew they would be here 2 more years?
But they aren’t and that is the problem. If Rutgers fans knew they had 2-3 more years they would be much more patient
What would the fond memories be? Certainly not anything on the court
Did you miss all the "piss poor dribbler" "terrible shooter" "bad shooter in HS and now college" posts?
I can quote them but didn't want to personally call out the posters.
Why would you assume they would be thrilled to be stuck with such poor players?
If I thought a guy was a piss poor dribbler and terrible shooter, I'd wouldn't want that guy on the team next year.
I think those people are talking relative to their status as top 3 players and not like in general but fair enough.
lol this takes about you two best players to ever put on that uniform is hilarious. Why blame the players and not the coaches for blowing an opportunity of a lifetime. The coaches plan for the supporting cast was trash.
Why would they have gotten better at other schools?
I wonder who is more on point about their draft status/ NBA potential?
People who get paid to evaluate talent for a multi-billion $$ business?
or
Know-nothing idiots on a message board?
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People who get paid to evaluate talent for a multi-billion $$ business?
or
Know-nothing idiots on a message board?
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Now apply this logic to all of the coaching criticisms.
This thread is so bored and struggling that it doesn't matter how terrible it is.....there are stupid comments made all the time.
The concern is that the people who post and support this, actually may be dumb enough to actually believe it.
There's really only one way to shut people up when stuff like this gets posted. Ask them to pony up their hard earned money and wager real money to support their statements. Any of us can be found in the RAC, the RAC parking lots, or at the Rutgers spring game or during the RU football season in any of the lots.
Simply ask these posters to name the amount of money they want to wager that they believe in what they say. I'll find people to bet against these fine "great " RU fans and offer them 5 or 10 bucks for every 1 buck they want to wager against it and the loser....or person who is clueless, has to donate that amount to RU or the R Fund.
It's quite simple....send the message on top of the board, asked for it to be pinned and place your name and amounts and see what happens....let's see who's legit and who isn't.....talk is cheap, real money doesn't run. Let's see who responds.......
How dumb can you be ? Box of Rocks Dumb .
Now THAT i don’t agree with
Pike is absolutely deserving of criticism - and I have been far from a pike hater - but there are countless things that pike is worthy of criticism - and it does NOT take an expert to see them
My point is - that when there is near absolute consensus from the experts that Ace and Dylan are top 3 picks - and when big corporations are going to make multi-million-dollar decisions to draft them that high … well their opinions mean a hell of a lot more to me then some idiots on this board
But I bet if you ask those same experts if Pike has done a good job this year I can NOT imagine a single one would say that he has. I mean the proof is in the results. They are inarguable imho
Like running around campus on scooters. Ace seems to be loving that .
It depends.
Worst case/best case scenario:
4 years in college but they achieve 100% of their development potential.
The likely would be top 5 picks.
Imagine Harden/Durant entering the draft as 24 year old All-NBA caliber players.
The problem is how likely are they to achieve that 100% development as college player?
It's much more likely they graduate at 50% development so now you have 24 year old players with much lower ceilings.
No more Durant or Brunson or Harden comparisons.
They are closer to finished products at a lower level.
The reason NBA teams draft 18 year olds with high potential is because they want the chance to have the player at that 100% potential filled level.
It’s not like the team will be much worse . They will probably finish 13th to 15th place this year .
For whatever reason, the seat next to our group of 4 seats in 102 has been given to NBA scouts at least 5 times this season and we've chatted with all of them and they all say both players are certainly top 5. The guy tonight said Harper is the more complete player (and of course, he got to see one of Harper's best games), but Ace has a higher ceiling, even if he's a bit raw; said DH would start today in the NBA.
Oh what does that guy know? He gets paid by NBA teams to make multi-million $$ decisions about which players to take.
But that means nothing
I put much more weight on the opinions of message board trolls
Yep. Mt Rushmore dumbest shit ever said on this board lmfaoooo
As a Sixers fan, I hope they tank for the rest of the season, and I would love it if they got either Dylan or Ace.
Tell me you’re an idiot without telling me you’re an idiot.
Dylan will be an All Star....I'm not sure about Ace...Could see him maybe like an Andrew Wiggins...Good pro but not dominant...He needs to get alot stronger
Common sense to think his body is gonna look much different as a 25 year old than an 18 year old
He is a guard, I would not worry about PG or SG.
There still are so many stupid comments on here by totally negative RU fans. People just love to criticize Pike, Harper, Bailey & our team. I have attended practices since Pike was hired and have been to several hundred of them. Our kids work hard every single practice. Ace and Dylan are both only 18 and our other players might not contribute as much as we expected but the BIG Ten is rated as the second best league in the country just behind the SEC and ahead of the Big 12. Our league has many 23 and 24 year old men on BIG rosters. Our team is still rated in the top 20 % of the 369 D-1 teams in the entire country. We also have played the 24th toughest schedule in the country. Yes we have lost some games we should not have lost but not everything turns out the way we always want things to. Some just love to rip our coaches and our players to make themselves look good when most probably never even competed in high school or college sports. It is easy to sit behind a desk and type negative comments. Coaching and participating are not easy. I like fans who root for our team and stick with our team through thick and thin. That is what I have done since 1971. We don't need "fans" who just jump on board but really are not RU fans for very long. We had not been to the NCAA for 30 years yet Steve got us there twice and it would have been 3 years as when the NCAA was cancelled in the covid year we were ranked # 28 in the country. Steve is not perfect but he isn't the one making bad passes and missing shots. We don't have the large NIL monies that many other blue bloods do. I just wish some would think before posting such harmful comments that they post. Does that make you feel better? I don't see so many criticizing our football team yet our coach has never won a championship at any level, has yet to even once having a winning record still in a BIG Ten season. He never won in the BIG East or the AAC as well and he makes $ 10 million a year and has had two stadium expansions and this past season we were only 7-6 without playing any of the top 6 teams in the Big Ten this past fall. We had the easiest schedule of any team in the BIG and we still struggled. We fell apart against Kansas State after being ahead by 3 scores in the last 18 minutes. We also blew a game with 14 seconds to play on a 50 yard touchdown pass with only a couple guys back on defense but little is said about that. Some bragged when we defeated Miami in last years bowl game when they had 16 players not play in the game before the NFL draft. It was like without 16 starters we played against a Miami JV team. It was embarrassing.
Sadly Art, you think you need to tear down Schiano to make Pike look better. you are clueless about Greg's salary & Pike is not underpaid either. What one sport has to do with the other makes no sense.
Good hoops points, but there was simply no reason to trash Schiano in this post - it doesn't make your hoops points any stronger and, in fact, it detracts from them, by hurting your credibility.
Not worried at all...he's going to bank. I really haven't followed the NBA closely in many years so perhaps he does have plenty of speed for the current game as a PG, but his future is bright also as a combo/2G imho.
No, it’s relevant. Double standard. Judging by conference competitiveness, Pike has been much more successful.
He landed elite recruits. Why does Schiano get a pass for never having done that? So stupid to excuse Schiano’s losing because he doesn’t have the talent to win in the conference.
You were saying?
Really strange how you complain about posters criticizing Pike & then you do the same thing, you are complaining about, to Schiano
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