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Death of Barney Ball

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So goodbye to this guy:
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New Rutgers coach Chris Ash already has made it clear that he doesn't intend to be "buddy-buddy" with his players. Ash is taking over a program that lacked discipline last season and he has already sent a message that things are going to change.

A demanding offseason workout program will set the tone, as Ash tries to instill toughness and discipline in the team. But Ash understands that as he's pushing players to the limit, he needs to build relationships with them to generate the best results.

"As a coach, you've got to have great character," Ash said in an interview with NJ Advance Media. "The players want to know that they can trust you. And if they trust you, you can coach them really hard. They want to know that you can build a connection and that you care about them. If you show the players that they can trust you and you care about them and you've got competence in your job, you can coach them extremely hard and you can push them to the level of that trust."

Herman brought a similar mindset to rebuilding Houston's culture, and the result was a 12-1 record and an American Athletic Conference championship in his first season. Obviously, it will be more challenging for Ash to have a similar level of success in the loaded Big Ten East Division, but he'll take the same approach as Herman.

"His ability and his staff's ability to build a connection with those players in that program and get them to buy into the way they're going to do business allowed them to have success a lot faster," Ash said. "It's going to be no different for us at Rutgers."

Ash had the same no-nonsense approach as Ohio State's defensive coordinator, but that didn't prevent him from developing close relationships with players there.

"He's a grinder and he loves his players. He loves to get them better each week," Ohio State safety Vonn Bell said. "I know he's going to do well."

Ash is confident he'll develop the same relationships with his players at Rutgers.

"The stronger the trust and the higher the connection, the harder you can push them," Ash said. "That's the challenge. We want to push them extremely hard, but to do that, we've got to make sure we build relationships on trust and that players know that we're going to care about them. If we do that, they'll respond the right way."

Read the full article here: http://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/i...ach_chris_ash_explains_how_hell_build_re.html
 
certainly make for a profoundly different message in some key areas -

previously there seemed to be an effort to convey a paternalistic atmosphere - selling parents on the cliche that "we will look after you boy like he is our own" - and that appealed to some -

Now it is going to be more adult - more a matter of "there is opportunity on the table and your boy will have a great shot at it - and we will do our best to enable him to deliver his best performance & prepare him for the rest of his life."
 
this again ? ugh. give it a rest, please.
no desire to get into rants about the past - - but do find the ways that this mentality change will translate to the essence of the recruiting message - very very interesting interesting
 
no desire to get into rants about the past - - but do find the ways that this mentality change will translate to the essence of the recruiting message - very very interesting interesting

That was my point, I was just having a little fun with it to lighten the gloom and doom and Pitt worship around here.

The point is that things are changing and for the better.
 
I will weed out all no hackers that don't pack the gear to serve on my beloved team.

Seriously now, I would rather my son be treated the Ash way, than the Flood way. Flood's way was Ok, and admirable, but lighting a fire under someone's a$$ is the way to go.

I remember a BC player commenting on Tom Coughlin when he started at BC back in the day. "It went from Club Bicknell, to Camp Coughlin in a hurry."
 
There are successful coaches with both styles, although I think more tend to be the disciplinarian type.
Pete Carrol has had success at both College and Pros w the 'players coach' style. Can't think of anyone else at the moment.
 
Good to see discipline will be part of RU FB after the previous RU HC made the mistake of trying to be a friend that trusted what his players would do instead of demanding they adhere to a set of rules concerning how they conduct themselves on and off the field like a parent would do with their kids.
 
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Nobody is saying there still won't be a family culture, it'll just be a family that respects rules and where you can depend on your brothers. Not the disfunctional family that's half in jail. I'm pretty sure parents would rather Ash's version.
 
The past 4 years ARE a part of our history, fellas, it will be talked about, good or bad, like it or not.
 
Look I know some of you wanted Flood to stay but it is time to let it go.

I am excited about the freaking Spring game. I can't remember the last time that happen.
I'm sort of high too. #1.Coaching hires.#2. recruiting #3. LOI day #4.Spring Game.A lot to look forward to.RU :football: ROCKS!
 
History is written in the eyes of the victor. Flood is gone now but some will not let it go. I supported Flood till the end because I did not expect what Barchi did. Most who supported him knew he was too inexperienced, most of the staff were, but hoped they could learn and grow until the money or a new president could be found to support a change. There were glimmers of hope and signs of total failure. We are all giddy and dancing on the graves of the past but no one could have predicted Ash. No one expected money to be thrown on the table. No one expected Julie gone and a dynamic AD in his place. Some of the new coaches, are just as inexperienced but they bring a different background of success that we never have seen. I am 110% behind Ash and never looking back. I respect Flood for what he tried to do, for the success of his first year co-championship and his first B1G year, but ultimately he failed. It was not enough. Barchi stood up and set the direction for this program. He surprised me, he surprised us all. Sometimes, in that darkest hour, a leader steps up. I think we found someone who can lead us into the next level. I think if we truly believe in what we are and what we want, we appreciate those who tried and maybe failed, who maybe weren't capable enough, but who's passion and love for this program and our kids could never be questioned. I got a kick out of the barney pic, brings back hours of TV watching with my kids. I think we're all in that Barney moment right now with Ash as well. We want to believe. I believe.
 
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