Did Fran Brown Learn Anything From Schiano? 🤷♂️
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You can really think Ga. Tech is a top 25 team?
The voters ranked them and they beat them. Iowa was ranked too and lost. Was that not real either?
Remember that commercial for Smith Barney- they made money the old-fashioned way, they earned it!
When Dino Babers was head coach, there was a very wealthy scrap recycler who gave lots of $$$ to Cuse. I think he got run out by their AD. Wonder where they are getting the money?
Being or beating an early season ranked team is really nothing to crow about.
Rutgers was ranked in top ten after a few weeks of 2007.
Then Fridge and his Terps came in and fixed that lol
Rutgers Returns to Top 10 in National Rankings - Rutgers University Athletics
PISCATAWAY, N.J. - For the second time in school history, Rutgers will play a college football game ranked in the Top 10 as the 10th-ranked Scarlet Knights
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Fine, if we dont have the money to buy a blue chip quaterback ( but NIL powerhouse sewercuse does?), if we are developmental program, why cant we develop the most important position on the field. Can you imagine having a quterback like Kyle would do for our program, instead we just pray our quaterbacks are mediocre and dont lose games. Sorry, Sewercuse landing McCord and Wimsatt another QB failure has really gotten under my skin.
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Football 101: poll are meaningless in judging teams. One, there is a lot of bias in them. Two, those who vote are either clueless or don't have time to watch most of the teams they are voting into the top 25. It's all about the name on the front of the jersey or hyped team of the day. A more accurate poll would be something half way into the season.
Now, don't act like you didn't know this. Don't be a that guy who looking to be the wise guy on this topic
Let's have a look, skipping the disASHter years and the covid year, which was a wash.
2021:
#19 Michigan- L (ended season ranked #3, 12-2/8-1 and in CFP championship)
#11 Ohio State L (ended season #6, 11-2/8-1)
#11 Michigan State L (ended season #9 11-2/7-2)
#21 Wisconsin L (Ended season 9-4/6-3)
#14 Wake Forest Lost in a bowl game that we were a last minute add
2022:
#5 Michigan L (ended season #3, 13-1/9-0 and in CFP championship)
#3 Ohio State L (ended Season #4 11-2/8-1)
#11 Penn State L (ended season #7 11-2/7-2)
2023:
#2 Michigan L (ended season #1, 15-0/9-0, CFP champion)
#1 Ohio State L (ended season #10, 11-2/8-1)
#22 Iowa L (ended season #24 (11-4/7-2)
#12 Penn State (ended Season #13, 10-3/7-2)
Tell me you are serious about comparing the losses to ranked teams in the last 2 years to beating Ga Tech, being ranked after beating a putrid FSU. Let's check back and see where Ga Tech is ranked at the end of the season, OK?
But the previous poster answered your question. Apparently, McCords (daddy) had some ridiculously high demands for NIL.
You put the purported failure on whom? Greg and Kirk? Maybe they gave it a hard try and decided to cut their losses.
And Jim Harbaugh was at Michigan State for 9 years and he produced one marquis QB. You want Rutgers to beat that?
And, are you watching this season? It's early, but AK is light years better than any QB we have had since Laviano and Nova.
McCord demanded $1 million from Wisconsin & Wisconsin passed, next thing you hear is that McCord is transferring to Sadexcuse. Maybe Fran signed over part of his paycheck to get a QB
That's not a bad bet and a good investment if it pays off. He can leverage that into a huge extension or his next gig.
The whole reason Wimsatt reclassified to 2021 was to start collecting NIL early like Quinn Ewers did at Ohio State.
If we had beaten a school ranked #23, everyone would be crowing about it. It was a good win for Syracuse, Fran has gotten off to a good start, and he has a QB who is a major problem for anyone going up against them.
They were ranked 23 because they beat overhyped overanked FSU.. ACC supporters who are involved in these various rankings have learned a lesson from the SEC (who started with that stuff and then talked up their conference so much they got teh talent to follow.. and then actually became THAT GOOD. Not a bad plan if it works). Push everyone up so when they lose there are others in the conference who benefit while the losers don't slip as much.
FSU lost to GTech.. but, look, GTech should have been ranked.. so it wasn't a bad loss.
FSU loses to BC.. wait.. look.. BC is ranked after.. not a bad loss.
Syracuse beat a ranked GTech.. wow.. reward them.. they beat a ranked team! When Syracuse gets ranked then GTech can say... hey, not a bad loss.. we lost to a ranked team.
Ranked teams games look better on the TV schedule. These ACC rankings seem to be a shell game.
I mean...come on guys let's not be that fan base lol Rutgers fans shed tears of joy speaking about Rutgers victories over top ten Louisville or south Florida or Cincinnati or whoever was the top team in the big east that Rutgers knocked off after Miami, va tech etc left the conference. Those top ten teams were probably worse than Florida State as a top ten team.. a win is a win..
Interesting, I will say one thing about this as I can see this topic going off the rails lol...what we are seeing is the differences in communication that may trigger some people. Especially now that everyone seems to get so pissed about different cultures being a part of things that used to be exclusively reserved for one particular culture. Black coaches have been present but if they did speak they wouldn't speak like this. This type of speech is normally reserved for the players. Mind you, the coach from Oklahoma State and whoever else can have epic rants and meltdowns but they communicate in a way that we are used to big time coaches communicating in. Coaches that speak like fran brown and Deon will be becoming more and more prevalent, just as women's basketball players like Caitlin Clark and rappers like jack Harlow will become more prevalent...I don't think anyone's feelings are wrong, these are natural feelings, human nature. But we have the ability to think critically and understand where these feelings are coming from...
Those victories came late in the season when team have established themselves as bad, good, or great teams. Rutgers wasn't playing an over-hyped team... well, maybe USF. 🤣
After going through that gauntlet of a big east schedule lol
Not triggered at all. Regardless of race, some fans and players prefer coaches like the NIU coach and Ryan Walters at Purdue. This is football, not WWE, but whatever one person likes, another may not.
NIU Head Coach--Praise your players, your coaches, your culture.
And Ryan Walters preaches--respect the game, the preparation, the opponent (regardless of who it is), play as hard as you can (sounds like Greg):
After beating Indiana last year, no smack talk:
I don't think it's about race...it's about the way they communicate and carry themselves. Yes I agree people prefer the more docile, humble and appreciate the opportunity type of coaches. But brown and Deon, lane kiffin, the Oklahoma State guy, these are different personalities. Their type of personality looks different in different cultures. While we as sports fans are used to the fiery, flamboyant communication style of one culture. Seeing a college coach speak like this in a press conference is new and might rub some people the wrong way. Unless I'm unaware of something else coach brown did Maybe in his tenure at Rutgers. I don't believe he's doing anything wrong (besides being a coach at Syracuse lol)
Got it. I was trying to prevent a thread derail-LOL. The problem with coaches like Deion, Kiffin (don't follow him closely except I know he wears a dumb visor and is a bit cocky), Gundy (hate him because he watches a certain news channel?), and perhaps Fran Brown (too early in his tenure to tell), is that people love to see smack-talking coaches fail. Similar thing with Brian Kelly (a total asshat and never looks in the mirror). you
Brian Kelly:
LSU coach Brian Kelly slammed by fans and told to 'look in the mirror'
LSU head coach Brian Kelly was slammed by fans last night after he ripped into kicker Damian Ramos. The Tigers were taking on the Nicholls State Colonels at Tiger Arena. Kelly’s men led the g…
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Exactly, Kelly is a real piece of work lol...funny because when he first got to LSU, he tried to communicate in the way he thought people from Louisiana would relate to. With a fake southern accent referencing his "family". The way people communicate things and their demeanor is crucial in whether or not the message is well received or not.Got it. I was trying to prevent a thread derail-LOL. The problem with coaches like Deion, Kiffin (don't follow him closely except I know he wears a dumb visor and is a bit cocky), Gundy (hate him because he watches a certain news channel?), and perhaps Fran Brown (too early in his tenure to tell), is that people love to see smack-talking coaches fail. Similar thing with Brian Kelly (a total asshat and never looks in the mirror). you
Brian Kelly:
LSU coach Brian Kelly slammed by fans and told to 'look in the mirror'
LSU head coach Brian Kelly was slammed by fans last night after he ripped into kicker Damian Ramos. The Tigers were taking on the Nicholls State Colonels at Tiger Arena. Kelly’s men led the g…
Agreed. IMO, to players and fans, is just be real. Ryan Walter, Greg Schiano, Thomas Hammock, Matt Rhule, etc are all respected coaches, but even Greg rubs some people the wrong way. And Fran Brown is just starting out and defining himself as a HC.
Speaking to a GT fan, who is not a total yahoo, he said GT fans were scratching their heads over what Fran Brown said in that clip above. GT's head coach is a nose to the grindstone, straight shooter type of coach. Did Fran Brown twist or misinterpret something the GT coach said to make it bulletin board material? IDK.
But the Vanderbilt QB did the same thing when Brent Pry of VT compared Diego Pavia to Penn State QB McSorley--he was being complimentary, but Pavia turned it all into a WWE rant post game. Whatever, dude.
Vanderbilt's QB Somehow Used A Harmless Compliment As Motivation To Beat Virginia Tech
Vanderbilt quarterback Diego Pavia willed the Commodores to victory over Virginia Tech on Saturday. A team that went 2-10 in 2023 began 2024 with an upset
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LOL:
Total BS
Fran Brown convinced him to go to Cuse.
And this will result in them possibly winning the ACC.
QB throws for 400 yards and 4 TDs vs. the #23 ranked team in the country.
Calling Georgia Tech a top 25 team is like calling a hot dog a tube steak.
You are wrong. Right from the horse's mouth: It was the coaches (not just Brown), NIL and he does not like stiff competition- he saw Syracuse as the easiest route to winning because of Syracuse's pillow soft schedule. You can debate this all you want, but this is straight from McCord himself.
"McCord said his decision to transfer to Syracuse was driven by his relationship with the Orange’s new coaching staff, as he has longstanding relationships with Syracuse head coach Fran Brown, offensive coordinator Jeff Nixon and quarterbacks coach Nunzio Campanile."
“Coach Fran Brown, I’ve known him since I was in middle school,” McCord said. “I played football in South Jersey, and he’s a South Jersey guy. So he was at Temple, so he was always local, and he told me when I was in like 7th grade, I think he was like, ‘You’re gonna be special, man. Wherever I am, I want to be your coach.’
“And then Coach Nixon, who’s the offensive coordinator, he was in Philly with the Eagles when I was growing up, and I played youth football with his son. I was the quarterback, his son was the running back. So I’ve known Coach Nixon since I was 5 or 6 years old. And he recruited me when he was at Baylor, and obviously it didn’t work out, I went to Ohio State.
“And then the quarterback coach, Coach Nunzio Campanile, who was the head coach at Bergen Catholic up in North Jersey, wanted me to come up. He was on me in like 7th and 8th grade saying you could come up and go to school up there and he wanted me bad, but obviously I stayed in Philly. So kind of the three coaches that I’ll be working with there, I’ve known them for five, six, seven years and I’ve known Coach Nixon pretty much my whole entire life.”
That said, McCord acknowledged that NIL was part of the recruiting process once he entered the portal.
“Schools know they have X amount of money and they have to distribute it accordingly. Each guy feels like they have a certain value and they set themselves at that value and I think a lot of it is weighing the pros and cons,” McCord said. “But I mean, it’s crazy. I talked to some of my guys from Ohio State, and hearing the numbers they’re getting from schools. And they’re trying to compare and ‘OK, I know I can get on the field here, but the money’s not as good as it is here.’ I think it’s nuts with NIL and the way things are right now, it’s free agency.”
Asked if Syracuse’s favorable 2024 schedule played a part in his decision, McCord said he felt like he would have an opportunity to win by transferring there.
“Yeah, I mean, they said, with the guys that they’re gonna bring in, some of the guys they’ve got coming back, we’re gonna be able to make a serious run at it. And their recruiting pitch was, ‘Listen, we’re a quarterback away from being a serious contender in the ACC this year,’” McCord said. “And I looked at the schedule, and I saw it and I think it’s true. I think there’s definitely an opportunity for us to go out there and win some games.”
Kyle McCord Describes Departure from Ohio State As A “Business Decision”
In an interview with “The QB Room,” Kyle McCord said “Ohio State had to make a business decision that they felt like was best for them, and I had to do the same thing.”
Ok .. who hired the Cuse Staff ?You are wrong. Right from the horse's mouth: It was the coaches (not just Brown), NIL and he does not like stiff competition- he saw Syracuse as the easiest route to winning because of Syracuse's pillow soft schedule. You can debate this all you want, but this is straight from McCord himself.
"McCord said his decision to transfer to Syracuse was driven by his relationship with the Orange’s new coaching staff, as he has longstanding relationships with Syracuse head coach Fran Brown, offensive coordinator Jeff Nixon and quarterbacks coach Nunzio Campanile."
“Coach Fran Brown, I’ve known him since I was in middle school,” McCord said. “I played football in South Jersey, and he’s a South Jersey guy. So he was at Temple, so he was always local, and he told me when I was in like 7th grade, I think he was like, ‘You’re gonna be special, man. Wherever I am, I want to be your coach.’
“And then Coach Nixon, who’s the offensive coordinator, he was in Philly with the Eagles when I was growing up, and I played youth football with his son. I was the quarterback, his son was the running back. So I’ve known Coach Nixon since I was 5 or 6 years old. And he recruited me when he was at Baylor, and obviously it didn’t work out, I went to Ohio State.
“And then the quarterback coach, Coach Nunzio Campanile, who was the head coach at Bergen Catholic up in North Jersey, wanted me to come up. He was on me in like 7th and 8th grade saying you could come up and go to school up there and he wanted me bad, but obviously I stayed in Philly. So kind of the three coaches that I’ll be working with there, I’ve known them for five, six, seven years and I’ve known Coach Nixon pretty much my whole entire life.”
That said, McCord acknowledged that NIL was part of the recruiting process once he entered the portal.
“Schools know they have X amount of money and they have to distribute it accordingly. Each guy feels like they have a certain value and they set themselves at that value and I think a lot of it is weighing the pros and cons,” McCord said. “But I mean, it’s crazy. I talked to some of my guys from Ohio State, and hearing the numbers they’re getting from schools. And they’re trying to compare and ‘OK, I know I can get on the field here, but the money’s not as good as it is here.’ I think it’s nuts with NIL and the way things are right now, it’s free agency.”
Asked if Syracuse’s favorable 2024 schedule played a part in his decision, McCord said he felt like he would have an opportunity to win by transferring there.
“Yeah, I mean, they said, with the guys that they’re gonna bring in, some of the guys they’ve got coming back, we’re gonna be able to make a serious run at it. And their recruiting pitch was, ‘Listen, we’re a quarterback away from being a serious contender in the ACC this year,’” McCord said. “And I looked at the schedule, and I saw it and I think it’s true. I think there’s definitely an opportunity for us to go out there and win some games.”
Kyle McCord Describes Departure from Ohio State As A “Business Decision”
In an interview with “The QB Room,” Kyle McCord said “Ohio State had to make a business decision that they felt like was best for them, and I had to do the same thing.”www.elevenwarriors.com
There you go.
Tell me you didn't move the goal posts, and other posters can throw the flag. Nunzio was on staff before Fran got there, and he was under contract. So Fran did not hire him. He hired Nixon. But IIRC, those coach were hired before McCord came available.
But you can't rule out what McCord said about NIL being important AND he wanted an easy schedule. There you go. It was all three.
I think we are both picking at nits here. He was not going to come to a mid to lower level B1G team, especially where he was not guaranteed the job.
Exactly but people in this thread are acting like that never happened when talking now about Cuse.
The whole reason Wimsatt reclassified to 2021 was to start collecting NIL early like Quinn Ewers did at Ohio State.
C'mon Guys.. let's not be ^^^THAT^^^ guy who manufactures strawmen to argue against.
Kelly is a straight-up MURDERER.. sending some intern up on a scissors lift to film practice in 60MPH gusts? MURDERER. Talk about lack of institutional control of common safety precautions.. for what? More practice film? And Notre Dame kept him after that... insane.
All the fruit fans from syracusefan are still posting on their dumpster fire thread. That is the most delusional fanbase in America. So butt hurt from Schiano living in their heads for the past 2 decades. 😂
Do they even realize that their schedule is MEAC level ?
rutgers played a MEAC team. Not SU. Btw Howard had a nice 1 point win vs basically a D2 team
At this point they can inch up the top 25 if they win with that schedule
I think we would love to be ranked on the cusp of the rankings with a few easy games in front of us before a rough stretch of games
