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Greg Schiano would be a strong candidate for the Florida Job

Al, we’re on the verge of having our best season in a very long time and you’re worried about losing Schiano?
Sit back and enjoy the ride.
Personally I think he is an excellent coach and would do great anywhere. That being said he is a perfect fit right here. He will be due a big pay raise very shortly.

If there is one thing I am very disappointed in,if’s the turnout for the Akron game.
If this team produces and the crowd is still sparse. We’re in trouble!

One other thing, a message for the guys on here who try to reason with Shelby.
Murphy’s Law applies.
“Never argue with a fool, people might
not know the difference”
 
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Why Schiano will not be considered for Florida :

- Gainesville is too close to Tampa. We. Everyone remembers Schiano s experience with the Buccaneers.

- See Tennessee Vols reaction to Schiano. Won’t be much different with Gators.

Florida will get a P4 HC. Just won’t be Schiano.

I can see Campbell from Iowa State. / Dabo / James Franklin / etc as candidates.
You are onto something. I thought the GS problem in Tampa was three-fold.

1) NFL players are largely star-players most of their football lives and go to star programs where they are treated like stars. As an assistant, GS might teach them something they need to succeed at their position.. but as head coach he'd demand more control over their behavior. They are not used to that. The stars.. resent it. We saw it as DC at Ohio State.. GS wanted to install assignment defense.. everyone do what he says when he says it. The stars are used to more freedom.. to use their athletic advantage to beat their opponent.. to out-athlete them. The stars at OSU resented it... perhaps buoyed by GS bad rep coming out of Tampa.

2) Media.. media around star programs, NFL teams.. they are used to basking in the glory of the star athletes.. to get close to them.. to leverage the relationship... GS sought to control that. The Gators and SEC media would more closely match that of the Bucs media than what GS had to deal with at Rutgers. There would be instant friction.

3) Culture. Tennessee would have been far better off with Schiano than any of the guys who were there before their current head coach. But Schiano would have had the same issues.. star athletes wanting/needing/demanding star treatment. Media and boosters demanding their access.

If the Gators were serious and would support all the changes in culture and media and booster access as Schiano transformed the program I think it would work. But I don't think they would cooperate. Perhaps seeing the struggles of Coach Prime they are thinking they need to go the opposite way. Saban was a disciplinarian who transformed Bama back to what it "should be".. but Saban had won a NC with an SEC team before his failure at the Dolphins. Saban disciple Steve Sarkasian seems to have done it with Texas.. transforming their star-atheletes who failed year after year to a TEAM. But he, too, had that NC experience to lean on.. as an Assistant. That is something that demanded respect from star athletes. GS came close to that as Miami DC but they won the following year. I just don't see all those players and hangers-on giving GS the room to transform the Gators to a disciplined TEAM. Florida might need someone more high-profile.

Maybe they should get that Texas OC... Kyle Flood. 😎
 
Al and that woman Shelby are very strange people.
Al's schtick these days is very different than under GS 1.0. It is like this.. Lil Bon Jovi was fun.. but here it is.. almost 20 years later or so and imagine adult Lil Bon Jovi trying the same stuff and amping it up even more.. doing that air-guitar to every song played.. craving attention. It is getting ugly.
 
You are onto something. I thought the GS problem in Tampa was three-fold.

1) NFL players are largely star-players most of their football lives and go to star programs where they are treated like stars. As an assistant, GS might teach them something they need to succeed at their position.. but as head coach he'd demand more control over their behavior. They are not used to that. The stars.. resent it. We saw it as DC at Ohio State.. GS wanted to install assignment defense.. everyone do what he says when he says it. The stars are used to more freedom.. to use their athletic advantage to beat their opponent.. to out-athlete them. The stars at OSU resented it... perhaps buoyed by GS bad rep coming out of Tampa.

2) Media.. media around star programs, NFL teams.. they are used to basking in the glory of the star athletes.. to get close to them.. to leverage the relationship... GS sought to control that. The Gators and SEC media would more closely match that of the Bucs media than what GS had to deal with at Rutgers. There would be instant friction.

3) Culture. Tennessee would have been far better off with Schiano than any of the guys who were there before their current head coach. But Schiano would have had the same issues.. star athletes wanting/needing/demanding star treatment. Media and boosters demanding their access.

If the Gators were serious and would support all the changes in culture and media and booster access as Schiano transformed the program I think it would work. But I don't think they would cooperate. Perhaps seeing the struggles of Coach Prime they are thinking they need to go the opposite way. Saban was a disciplinarian who transformed Bama back to what it "should be".. but Saban had won a NC with an SEC team before his failure at the Dolphins. Saban disciple Steve Sarkasian seems to have done it with Texas.. transforming their star-atheletes who failed year after year to a TEAM. But he, too, had that NC experience to lean on.. as an Assistant. That is something that demanded respect from star athletes. GS came close to that as Miami DC but they won the following year. I just don't see all those players and hangers-on giving GS the room to transform the Gators to a disciplined TEAM. Florida might need someone more high-profile.

Maybe they should get that Texas OC... Kyle Flood. 😎
Wouldn’t Flood to Florida be a hoot.
 
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Wouldn’t Flood to Florida be a hoot.
It would be an Ash-like hire... or a Gleeson hire. That is.. Ash was technically co-OC of a national championship defense at Ohio State.. but it really was Luke Fickell who did that. Proven.. right? With what Ash could not do as HC at Rutgers. Gleeson was technically OC of a potent Oklahoma State offense. But it really was former QB and OC-come-HC Mike Gundy who was responsible for that offense.. proven by Gleeson's inability to produce and offense here. I think Kyle Flood is technically OC of a great Texas offense.. but it is really Head Coach Sarkasian's offense... isn't it?
 
"Giving Greg the support he needs..." doesn't start by implying that he's not getting that support and spouting that RU is lacking. Even if true which is pure speculation why publicly espouse it. Why don't you be honest and say the truth-- our fans contribute with their mouths and not their pocketbooks --- keep Schiano s name out of it.
 
It would be an Ash-like hire... or a Gleeson hire. That is.. Ash was technically co-OC of a national championship defense at Ohio State.. but it really was Luke Fickell who did that. Proven.. right? With what Ash could not do as HC at Rutgers. Gleeson was technically OC of a potent Oklahoma State offense. But it really was former QB and OC-come-HC Mike Gundy who was responsible for that offense.. proven by Gleeson's inability to produce and offense here. I think Kyle Flood is technically OC of a great Texas offense.. but it is really Head Coach Sarkasian's offense... isn't it?
Gleeson was a convenient scapegoat for a failing system, philosophy and HC reputation for awful QB production.
 
Luv ya Al BUT....

.....GREG SCHIANO IS NOT GOING NOWHERE. PERIOD.

BTW - brilliant move by Florida if they fire this bozo before FSU fires theirs.
He’s not going anywhere, but for the reason I stated. The bloom is off the rose, ancient history. Skunked beer. Hobbs didn’t even want him, and he hasn’t even topped .333 in conference this time around. Florida would have no interest.
 
It would be an Ash-like hire... or a Gleeson hire. That is.. Ash was technically co-OC of a national championship defense at Ohio State.. but it really was Luke Fickell who did that. Proven.. right? With what Ash could not do as HC at Rutgers. Gleeson was technically OC of a potent Oklahoma State offense. But it really was former QB and OC-come-HC Mike Gundy who was responsible for that offense.. proven by Gleeson's inability to produce and offense here. I think Kyle Flood is technically OC of a great Texas offense.. but it is really Head Coach Sarkasian's offense... isn't it?
Respectfully disagree. Flood was already a head coach. Maybe he learned from his mistakes. Maybe he learned a lot at Alabama and Texas. Maybe if he was provided the proper resources, coordinators and assistants, he could succeed. Yeah, that's three maybes, but maybe I am on to something here.
 
Respectfully disagree. Flood was already a head coach. Maybe he learned from his mistakes. Maybe he learned a lot at Alabama and Texas. Maybe if he was provided the proper resources, coordinators and assistants, he could succeed. Yeah, that's three maybes, but maybe I am on to something here.
Maybe.
 
Respectfully disagree. Flood was already a head coach. Maybe he learned from his mistakes. Maybe he learned a lot at Alabama and Texas. Maybe if he was provided the proper resources, coordinators and assistants, he could succeed. Yeah, that's three maybes, but maybe I am on to something here.
Could be as you are saying.
A lot of HCs fail this first time at the job but succeed second go-around.
Kyle gained a lot of respect when he was at Bama and Sarkisian thought enough of him
to make Flood Texas' OC
Being part of Bama's championship team and the way TRxas is playing, Kyle will be getting another shot as a HC.
Florida might be a little too high of a goal for the Flood HC redemption tour , but just because I think that doesn't mean Florida won't look at Flood as a good candidate for their HC position .
 
Could be as you are saying.
A lot of HCs fail this first time at the job but succeed second go-around.
Kyle gained a lot of respect when he was at Bama and Sarkisian thought enough of him
to make Flood Texas' OC
Being part of Bama's championship team and the way TRxas is playing, Kyle will be getting another shot as a HC.
Florida might be a little to high of a goal on the Flood HC redemption tour , but just because I think that doesn't mean Florida won't look at Flood as a good candidate for their HC position .
Yeah, think Flood MAY get a shot at a G5 job, but maybe he doesn't want that headache. Think he is making $1.5-1.7M as a glorified coordinator at a top flight program. Why leave, except to get closer to home.
When the Temple HC gets fired, and it will happen in the next year or so, that would be a good gig for Kyle.
 
Seek help my friend. Your anti-Schiano stance is scary.
Shelby forgets, how many games has 2.0 won as an underdog ? Zero or 0 ?

Yea his 3 conference win peak and long list of upsets would be very attractive.

Surprising Alabama didn’t hire him away. Saban probably afraid Schiano would surpass his own GOAT accomplishments and glory, not to mention replace him in the Aflac commercials.

And it would cost too much flying Wagner to Tuscaloosa a couple of times.
 
Yeah, think Flood MAY get a shot at a G5 job, but maybe he doesn't want that headache. Think he is making $1.5-1.7M as a glorified coordinator at a top flight program. Why leave, except to get closer to home.
When the Temple HC gets fired, and it will happen in the next year or so, that would be a good gig for Kyle.
Shelby suggests circumstances of his firing (disguise, attempt to get grade changed, etc.) might be too much baggage. Not good PR.
 
Respectfully disagree. Flood was already a head coach. Maybe he learned from his mistakes. Maybe he learned a lot at Alabama and Texas. Maybe if he was provided the proper resources, coordinators and assistants, he could succeed. Yeah, that's three maybes, but maybe I am on to something here.
Go Florida... go hire Flood. I'd love to find out.
 
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Shelby forgets, how many games has 2.0 won as an underdog ? Zero or 0 ?

Yea his 3 conference win peak and long list of upsets would be very attractive.

Surprising Alabama didn’t hire him away. Saban probably afraid Schiano would surpass his own GOAT accomplishments and glory, not to mention replace him in the Aflac commercials.

And it would cost too much flying Wagner to Tuscaloosa a couple of times.
We were favored @ Michigan State and @ Maryland in 2020? Seems unlikely.
 
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Schiano is getting older and he probably doesn’t have the energy for a rebuild in the SEC or ACC. I think this is his last CFB HC stop.
 
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Schiano is getting older and he probably doesn’t have the energy for a rebuild in the SEC or ACC. I think this is his last CFB HC stop.
He’s only 59. If he wants to move, he will move, which is why we need to make it easier for him to do his job so he’s less inclined to move. We need to support NIL and We need to build him a field house.

Do these two things and he’ll never move, because everything he needs is right here. Don’t do those things and he might jump at the opportunity to make more money and achieve more. Every coach has an ego and wants the chance to win it all. Schiano is not going to be content with going 7-6 to 8-5 into perpetuity. But that’s the level of support we have, though this year might be a blue moon because we have a Heisman candidate in our backfield. But coaches prefer to coach at places with the resources to win at the highest level.

This is why Brian Kelly left Notre Dame for LSU. Because ND fans don’t provide the level of support that LSU fans do.

Florida is a selector school that has talent. All they need is someone like Schiano to instill discipline and coach them up.
 
Shelby forgets, how many games has 2.0 won as an underdog ? Zero or 0 ?

Yea his 3 conference win peak and long list of upsets would be very attractive.

Surprising Alabama didn’t hire him away. Saban probably afraid Schiano would surpass his own GOAT accomplishments and glory, not to mention replace him in the Aflac commercials.

And it would cost too much flying Wagner to Tuscaloosa a couple of times.
We were underdogs in Indiana 2021, BC 2022, Michigan State 2020. These things are very easy to check.
 
Supposedly, the University Florida BOT is meeting with the expected result that they will Fire their Head Football Coach. Even if they don’t decide to Fire him today, he’s a dead coach walking, and it’s just a matter of time before they get rid of him. And once that happens, it will be a matter of time before Jimmy Sexton, Schiano’s agent, floats his name for the job.

I am always monitoring the college football landscape for risks to our program, which is why I brought up last September on an NJ.com group podcast that we had to extend Schiano and give him a suitable increase in a question to our best writers. I’m thankful this was done in a timely manner, thx in part to articles that Steve Politi wrote, advocating as such. So Hobbs pushed for the extensión and suitable raise, and got it done. Probably his biggest accomplishment in the last year, before leaving.

And consequently, we’ve gotten commitments from outstanding prospects, and are poised to enjoy one of our best seasons ever.

But unfortunately, success can be a double edged sword, especially when in college football, the haves take from the have nots. Rutgers takes from Temple. Penn State takes from Rutgers. And Ohio State and Michigan takes from Penn State. Greg Schiano’s name will be mentioned for reputable program openings, imo, because he has done a tremendous job in turning our program around. In particular, he has the skillset and name recognition to be successful at Florida.

The University of Florida is a Have. They are a selector school which has won two National Championships within the last 20 years, and another in 1996, which is one I attended, in person at the SuperDome.

They have top notch facilities, strong fan support, strong fan attendance, and most importantly, the financial support to win at the highest level. They even have a jet to shuttle around coaches and recruits.

Financial Support is where we are severely lacking. NIL support isn’t where it needs to be and the Fieldhouse, which was a contractual point, isn’t going to be built anytime soon.

This would put us at a very disadvantageous position, if Schiano were to have the opportunity to choose between Florida and Rutgers. Other risks are we don’t have an athletic director and the status of our President is unclear, to say the least.

Florida fans think they’re getting Urban Meyer or Nick Saban. But if those types of candidates fall through, Greg Schiano would be very attractive to them. He’s making a decent salary at $6M a year, but they could afford to pay him $8M. They’d Give him a huge budget for his coaching staff. The Florida job would also carry risks for Schiano. He’d be expected to win right away, even though that team needs talent. Whereas at Rutgers, he could go 6-6 to 7-5 in perpetuity.

So what’s the point of this rambling soliloquy?
We haven’t done enough to support Greg Schiano.

So, If you have any inclination of supporting NIL, NOW is the time. Schiano has said NIL is his #1 priority.

I’ve given what I can, but am also contemplating doing more. I understand that all of us have our budget priorities and that’s fine. This isn’t curing Cancer and I’ve given my tithe to my Catholic Parish.

But if you want to see Rutgers continue to be successful, if you want to build Rutgers into a selector school, and Championship Contender, you have to do your part. It doesn’t happen on its own. Show me a successful football team, and I’ll show you the supporters who make it happen. The Towers and the Garruti’s have done their part. Now it’s on us.

And if you don’t want to do NIL, Give to the RFund. We have to be proactive and worry about these things now, not wait till he gets another offer. Below are the relevant links.


Love ya Al, but no he won't.
 
Shelby forgets, how many games has 2.0 won as an underdog ? Zero or 0 ?

Yea his 3 conference win peak and long list of upsets would be very attractive.

Surprising Alabama didn’t hire him away. Saban probably afraid Schiano would surpass his own GOAT accomplishments and glory, not to mention replace him in the Aflac commercials.

And it would cost too much flying Wagner to Tuscaloosa a couple of times.
oh look, another win as an underdog
 
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They're going after Kiffin
Really hoping they strike out with him and either go mid-major (unlikely) or retread (Urban)
 
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