Do you guys/gals like the Big 10?
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Yeah. Who would've thought that the college we resemble the most was UConn after all this time? We have UConn beat academically though due to a certain 3 letter acronym that we belong to and they don't.
Thats where you earn your chops.
You might think I am full of shit, but give me OSU, UM, and PSU every year.
You know where you stand
We love the B1G but they don’t love us back.
All the money we’ve made for the B1G, even more than the B1G imagined, does the B1G waive the loans, no of course not but Delaney chastises RU fans for not donating enough. Are you kidding me? Tone deaf much?
The officiating against RU in the B1G might possibly be the worst officiating in the history of organized athletics. It’s been that way since our admission.
Nobody believes the Yankee Stadium Bowl is a good idea. Thank God we didn’t have to give up a regular season game there too. B1G for some reason thinks it is. Worst footing of all the bowl games. Guess who is always going to be a prime candidate if qualified
Being forced to give up home field advantage because Izzo wants to play us at MSG rather than the RAC stinks to high heaven.
Scheduling most years has been ridiculously biased against RU. Was the League Office giggling when our first three games this year were against Indiana, Purdue and Ohio State? The predicted top three teams in our conference. And it’s been the same way many a year.
Best punter in the nation the last two years and he can’t make First Team B1G?
RU baseball not making the NCAA tourney? How did that happen?? B1G not going to bat for us…so to speak…
Just some of the examples of being treated unfairly.
RU fans love the B1G. It’s high time the B1G loves us back.
All the money we’ve made for the B1G, even more than the B1G imagined, does the B1G waive the loans, no of course not but Delaney chastises RU fans for not donating enough. Are you kidding me? Tone deaf much?
The officiating against RU in the B1G might possibly be the worst officiating in the history of organized athletics. It’s been that way since our admission.
Nobody believes the Yankee Stadium Bowl is a good idea. Thank God we didn’t have to give up a regular season game there too. B1G for some reason thinks it is. Worst footing of all the bowl games. Guess who is always going to be a prime candidate if qualified
Being forced to give up home field advantage because Izzo wants to play us at MSG rather than the RAC stinks to high heaven.
Scheduling most years has been ridiculously biased against RU. Was the League Office giggling when our first three games this year were against Indiana, Purdue and Ohio State? The predicted top three teams in our conference. And it’s been the same way many a year.
Best punter in the nation the last two years and he can’t make First Team B1G?
RU baseball not making the NCAA tourney? How did that happen?? B1G not going to bat for us…so to speak…
Just some of the examples of being treated unfairly.
RU fans love the B1G. It’s high time the B1G loves us back.
I love it. I have a lot of family in the Midwest so it’s nice going to road games, seeing new stadiums, and getting to meet up with family.
I love the B1G and I’ve learned a few things.
- no matter what they say facilities matter to recruits and players.
- you need cash to get the best coaches in all sports. The best coaches with proper facilities can be successful.
- you need alumni that are engaged financially.
We spent years arguing which of those three were most important. We’ve learned that all three move the needle in a big way. We are fixing one and two and seeing results. We’ve made progress on three.
I hate to say this but we gotta give Schiano a shiny new toy in a practice facility. That little difference in recruiting will add a win or two annually and get more alumni financially engaged.
In the B1G this stuff is solvable. In retrospect it never was in the AAC or even the best version of the Big East.
- no matter what they say facilities matter to recruits and players.
- you need cash to get the best coaches in all sports. The best coaches with proper facilities can be successful.
- you need alumni that are engaged financially.
We spent years arguing which of those three were most important. We’ve learned that all three move the needle in a big way. We are fixing one and two and seeing results. We’ve made progress on three.
I hate to say this but we gotta give Schiano a shiny new toy in a practice facility. That little difference in recruiting will add a win or two annually and get more alumni financially engaged.
In the B1G this stuff is solvable. In retrospect it never was in the AAC or even the best version of the Big East.
I really like the B1G. You can see all of our sports teams getting better and better. As far as basketball I’m extremely happy. No better conference for us there. My only disappointment so far is football. That needs to step up. Otherwise a big thumbs up.
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Someone brought up baseball.
What a massive snub.
The Big 10 needs to get better at promoting our baseball.
You fail as a commish if you can't get that RU baseball team in the tournament
What a massive snub.
The Big 10 needs to get better at promoting our baseball.
You fail as a commish if you can't get that RU baseball team in the tournament
UConn and WVU. The rest were an odd combination of CYOs (a term not usually used affectionately on these boards), city schools (Louisville, Cincy, Pitt) and private universities like BC and SU. Aside from Pitt, we had little in common institutionally with those schools. But even those represented a big upgrade from the decades of playing the Ivy League schools and several other small private schools in the Northeast, most of which are in the Patriot League nowadays (Lehigh, Lafayette, Colgate, Bucknell, Holy Cross, etc.). For decades our big game was the Princeton game, which should give you a clue.
When PSU joined the B1G in the early 1990s, I began thinking that it would be the logical conference for Rutgers to join. My understanding is that we were considered as the 12th member back then to give PSU an eastern partner but we hadn't completed our "new" stadium by that point and the B1G stayed at 11.
The first ACC raid on the Big East in 2003/2004 kicked off the conference realignment frenzy and there was a great deal of nervousness here that we would be left out. When Greg Schiano elevated our football program, it appeared that we would be among the next chosen and in 2009 when the B1G was going to add a 12th member, I was sure it would be Rutgers that they selected. But when Nebraska, in its desire to get away from Texas and Oklahoma, made itself available to the B1G. Nebraska still fit the B1G criteria of AAU membership the B1G jumped at the opportunity. I often felt that Nebraska knew that the writing was on the wall regarding its AAU membership (which it lost the following year IIRC, even before it began competing in the B1G) and wanted to get in under the wire. Rutgers was screwed in the process. Had things gone the other way in 2009, I believe that Schiano never would have left for the NFL in 2011 and that RU would have entered the B1G in 2011 in far better shape with regard to football than was the case in 2014.
Not when you’re building a program like we are. Hard to attract recruits with the promise of 4 humiliating ass kickings a year for 4 years and low bowl prospects. If we can stabilize around 6, 7 maybe even 8 wins a year, that’s when football will take off. NIL could be limitless for us.
Love being in the B1G, love seeing all sports (except football) being more than competitive. But as someone above mentioned, it doesn’t feel like the B1G loves us back — both the conference itself and portions of the fan bases.
Being hamstrung financially compared to our peers has been difficult. All because of what? The B1G could? Just because we needed a conference lifeline? Make it an even playing field. Especially when our presence in this conference has made everyone exponentially richer.
Still lots of messages board warriors with the ”Rutgers is a joke and should be kicked out” garbage. And all of these people fail to realize how much richer their schools are because RU is in the B1G. I’d rather they just thank us and go about their day. Weird smugness at times.
But despite all of that, it’s where we belong and we’re happy to be here.
Being hamstrung financially compared to our peers has been difficult. All because of what? The B1G could? Just because we needed a conference lifeline? Make it an even playing field. Especially when our presence in this conference has made everyone exponentially richer.
Still lots of messages board warriors with the ”Rutgers is a joke and should be kicked out” garbage. And all of these people fail to realize how much richer their schools are because RU is in the B1G. I’d rather they just thank us and go about their day. Weird smugness at times.
But despite all of that, it’s where we belong and we’re happy to be here.
@hawkit3113 great post which has prompted some good dialog
It’s been ok. Conference seems to have a good future but would be better off it kicked out Indiana they are dragging the conference down by every measure. @hawkit3113
Owning Indiana is definitely the best part of being in the B1G
They need to start winning a little first before it becomes a 'rivalry'
First choice would be for a strong northeast conference of primarily land grand universities, but other LOVE being in the Big Ten. Also elated we’re not limped into a confederate conference.
The B1G screwed us because they could. We were desperate and they knew it.
I remember a cartoon at the time stating that Rutgers was looking for a lifeboat and instead got an ocean liner. No doubt we were the absolute biggest winners in conference expansion.
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The problem is outside of Rutgers, Pitt, PSU, Maryland and maybe UConn, the Northeast publics are dogshit academically and most don't even play power D1 athletics. Who else in the Northeast as far as public universities go are even remotely good academically that also play D1 athletics? Delaware? Maybe Temple?
But B1G also saved John Jacob Astor in the amount of money RU made for them. Don’t rip fan support when you’re holding Rutgers hostage with loans over us for decades.
The best part about being in the B1G is the Big Ten Network. Never before in our history, did we have pre and post game coverage for football and hoops like we do since joining the B1G. I would have given my left nut for coverage like this from 1983-2013.
Being able to see our non-revenue sports on TV is really cool as well.
I will enjoy football more once the divisions are dissolved.
Being able to see our non-revenue sports on TV is really cool as well.
I will enjoy football more once the divisions are dissolved.
respectfully disagree with some of this
it would be easy to argue that the big ten should not have to
forgive loans we took.....,we knew what we were doing, and are responsible for our decisions to borrow....
I sincerely doubt that the league is responsible for individual refs getting calls wrong....every program thinks they get screwed on calls....
agree on Yankee stadium sucking for a bowl
you are assuming that RU was forced to play a bb game at MSG, it is very possible we like to do so, as long as another program plays us the next year as their home game
Michigan has done this already... a MSG game gives us some NYC publicity, and we get an amazing turnout.
I have no problem playing the big ten bb schedule in any particular order...... if we play all the tough teams early, or late, you still wind up playing everyone.....maybe we finish on a extended winning streak at the end.... if nothing else, .good optics
the rest I have no problem with.
I LOVE the B1G. We are lucky to be here I think every day about the wasteland we would have been stuck in without it.
What are you talking about? Even when Rutgers was in the Big East, the kids traveled to other Big East schools via planes. Teams didn't drive to Boston College, Pitt, Syracuse, or West Virginia.
Beyond athletics, I love the Big Ten focus on academics. For example, the Big Ten Cancer consortium, academic library consortium, and requiring all members to be AAU institutions (except for Nebraska, which got bounced out after they joined) puts us at an elite level academically above other conferences. Even Iowa is known for having one of the nation’s leading MFA and writing programs, so all of the schools have academics as their focus as well as athletics.
I followed expansion closely and always thought Rutgers was a no brainer. The B1G had to do something about PSU being on isolated and I thought taking Rutgers and Maryland made sense and solidified its position in the East. Actually didn't like bringing in Neb just because its hard enough already with recruiting in the West. Always thought Missouri would have been a better choice in my biased opinion. I also always really liked the arguments for Univ of Toronto for an outside the box expansion target. Love the USC/UCLA additions for selfish reasons of all the B1G teams will come rolling through LA now.
Agree with pretty much your entire post. One nitpick only because our daughter happens to be applying to colleges this year is that the SAT story these days may be a little misleading. Since test scores are optional at many schools, only kids who tend to do relatively well are submitting theIr scores. But I do believe Rutgers is becoming more competitive for admission based on other parameters such as GPA, class rank, and Rutgers overall ranking improvements.
I’m not sure they screwed us. We got what we were worth. We got serious about athletics and started investing in like 2000…. the B1G had been investing in their programs for decades. Sure… we brought more eyeballs to the B1G, but it’s not like those programs were going to fold without us.
Have said these things countless times. I used to love being able to drive to almost any away game in under 5 hours. If the universities had exercised their powers, properly, they could've made regional conferences with revenue sharing, so teams wouldn't have to always be thinking about jumping conferences.
But given the world we're in, being in the B1G is, by far, the best place we could be financially and athletically (and academically) - no doubt we "won" conference realignment relative to where we were. Now we just need to get football back to where it was when Flood inherited Schiano's best players and I still think he'll get us there. Hoops and most Olympic sports are in pretty good shape.
LOVE being in the B1G! -Athletically and academically, the league is ELITE, and personally, there's no other conference I'd rather have RU be a part of.
The B1G brings a lot of great things to Rutgers, and quite frankly, Rutgers brings a lot of great things to the B1G. so it's an excellent and beneficial match for both.
The B1G brings a lot of great things to Rutgers, and quite frankly, Rutgers brings a lot of great things to the B1G. so it's an excellent and beneficial match for both.
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Love being part of the Big Ten. Just need to get us caught up on the revenue share - we did get short changed at the beginning. We had no leverage and we’re in desperation mode so it’s understandable but given RU’s contribution to the bottom line, it would be nice for the conference to acknowledge it and give us a bigger share - perhaps forgive some of the outstanding loans. But I would think most RU fans are ecstatic with being in the conference. We should be - unlike many of the delusional, brain washed PSU supporters who hate the conference and believe there is a conspiracy against PSU and all the conference cares about is promoting OSU and Michigan.
From a BTN perspective, who brings in more $$ than us? Only PSU and OSU are single schools in a state larger than NJ. The two other more populus states have 2 schools (Illinois and Michigan). All the rest are smaller than NJ
Before our invite I told a Nebraska alum that we would wind up in the B1G. It is an obvious fit from the academic and history standpoint. He laughed.
Who's laughing now? RU that's who, all the way to the bank. Our best days are ahead.
Nebraska is a shell of their glory day selves. Borderline embarrassing. Hope they can get it together for brother Always' sake. Unless playing us of course.
Most husker fans (and B1G fans in general) I've met are good folks aside from giggle guy. Always invite visitors to join our tailgate.
Don't like the fans (from all over) that look down their nose.
Ped State fans and Walmart Wolverines are by far the worst. Not even close.
