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Don't folks realizing how humbling this must be for Schiano?

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Quite a precipitous fall from grace for a man with a large ego. It seems like just a few years ago that he was being courted (and turned down) the likes of Miami, Michigan, and Tennessee. 4 years ago he finally got the NFL HC offer he had wanted, meaning not just a step up to the big leagues but also a better lifestyle (those close to him say that he was anxious to spend more time with his young family and the NFL actually has more of an off season with down time than the college game with the year-round recruiting).

Only 2 years into a 5 year contract, he was fired not only for his team's performance on the field, but how he alienated all those around him and lost the locker room in Tampa Bay. Now, I understand that NFL GMs would be reluctant to hire him after his Tampa Bay experience, that is why he didn't wait around for opportunities with the Dolphins after the season is over. Schiano thought he had a great chance with the Canes, and in fact he did until Richt suddenly became available. USCe, Georgia, and UVA had virtually no interest in him. Schiano very well may have been hired at UCF if he wasn't as optimistic about the opportunity at the "U".

It will be interesting to see if Greg lasts at tOSU. He never expected having to play 2nd fiddle again, especially on the college level.

I wish Greg the best, he sure poured his heart and soul into RU for 11 years, but I also look forward to watching Ash's spread offense dissect Schiano's D.
 
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He's smart and calculating. I agree it's not where he wanted to be. However he seems to have people looking out for him. Why was he so deserving of an nfl job? I think he put his hat into the ring for the big jobs and wasn't offered. I assume he was given advice that a top coordinator job would be a nice step on the way back to a very selective college job... Time will tell
 
Oh the Humanity Please humble me like Greg Schiano has been humbled!

The Schiano leg humpers are out of control ........
 
Said this back on Dec.3..
GoodOl'Rutgers said:
I'd love it if GS came back as head coach. I think his next job might be a DC in the NFL or a top college program. If he doesn't get the opportunity he wants now.. remind people what he can do with a defense will go a long way to make him a top candidate next time around.
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Not humbling or disappointing to be DC of a top 5-10.
 
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GSGS said:
Quite a precipitous fall from grace for a man with a large ego. It seems like just a few years ago that he was being courted (and turned down) the likes of Miami, Michigan, and Tennessee. 4 years ago he finally got the NFL HC offer he had wanted, meaning not just a step up to the big leagues but also a better lifestyle (those close to him say that he was anxious to spend more time with his young family and the NFL actually has more of an off season with down time than the college game with the year-round recruiting).

Only 2 years into a 5 year contract, he was fired not only for his team's performance on the field, but how he alienated all those around him and lost the locker room in Tampa Bay. Now, I understand that NFL GMs would be reluctant to hire him after his Tampa Bay experience, that is why he didn't wait around for opportunities with the Dolphins after the season is over. Schiano thought he had a great chance with the Canes, and in fact he did until Richt suddenly became available. USCe, Georgia, and UVA had virtually no interest in him. Schiano very well may have been hired at UCF if he wasn't as optimistic about the opportunity at the "U".

It will be interesting to see if Greg lasts at tOSU. He never expected having to play 2nd fiddle again, especially on the college level.

I wish Greg the best, he sure poured his heart and soul into RU for 11 years, but I also look forward to watching Ash's spread offense dissect Schiano's D.
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Eff Gary. He's been paid a fortune for being mediocre at best.
 
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rutgersdave said:
I bet he making about $1-1.2 million a year. Please humble me like that.
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Even if it's far lower than that, Tampa must make up the difference so he makes $3 mil for the 2016 season
His contract with the Bucs expires in Dec. of 2016
This isn't a humbling experience, it's a business move so he can do what Muschamp did,
spend one year as a DC at a top P-5 program in order to get hired as a HC at another P-5 program after that year's up.
It's a smart move designed to put himself a step ahead when P-5 HCs are fired after the 2016 season and hiring for 2017 starts.
 
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rufullerton said:
Hum, let me think...
GS doesn't get any HC position that he really wanted. An opportunity comes up where he can go to a team as DC (his forte) full of 4/5 star caliber athletes. He gets to be in coaching, and have a legitimate chance to be part of National Champs on year one. Meanwhile he gets to learn and process offensive schemes from the best in Urben Meyer all the while getting paid the $3 million from Tampa and OSU. Meyer doesn't care since he fills or upgrade a big void on his staff on the cheap. After just one year, a lot of attractive HC position might open up, oh let's just say PSU. Win-Win situation for Meyer and Schiano.
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Meant to post on this thread.
 
Ummmmmmm..... Unless he totally sh$ts the bed, he just became the next head coach of Texas or Tennessee or Auburn, etc etc.

D coordinator at tOSU will be courted in 2-4 years.
 
Yes...agree it's humbling for Schiano and I'm curious how he and Meyer will interact with each other - as these are 2 strong and stubborn personalities.

GS could not land a HC gig and thus to keep his skin in the game and not become irrelevant, he takes the next best thing.


The Upside however should Schiano's defense play well and/or over-achieve:


- Should Meyer leave for the NFL, GS will be a strong candidate for the OSU gig especially if he recruits well and the players like him

- GS will be in most discussions concerning new HC gigs in P5 Conferences

- Should Franklin depart for PSU, GS is a very viable candidate


The downside if the OSU Defense under-achieves or doesn't play well or there is a player revolt:

- GS is toast
 
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There were reports that he turned down UCF waiting for Miami so maybe he regrets this since he could have stayed in Florida
 
GSGS said:
Quite a precipitous fall from grace for a man with a large ego. It seems like just a few years ago that he was being courted (and turned down) the likes of Miami, Michigan, and Tennessee. 4 years ago he finally got the NFL HC offer he had wanted, meaning not just a step up to the big leagues but also a better lifestyle (those close to him say that he was anxious to spend more time with his young family and the NFL actually has more of an off season with down time than the college game with the year-round recruiting).

Only 2 years into a 5 year contract, he was fired not only for his team's performance on the field, but how he alienated all those around him and lost the locker room in Tampa Bay. Now, I understand that NFL GMs would be reluctant to hire him after his Tampa Bay experience, that is why he didn't wait around for opportunities with the Dolphins after the season is over. Schiano thought he had a great chance with the Canes, and in fact he did until Richt suddenly became available. USCe, Georgia, and UVA had virtually no interest in him. Schiano very well may have been hired at UCF if he wasn't as optimistic about the opportunity at the "U".

It will be interesting to see if Greg lasts at tOSU. He never expected having to play 2nd fiddle again, especially on the college level.

I wish Greg the best, he sure poured his heart and soul into RU for 11 years, but I also look forward to watching Ash's spread offense dissect Schiano's D.
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Too magnanimous. ...hate this move ...revolting at the least..
 
Blitz8RUCrazy said:
btw are you going to change your handle to CACA instead of GSGS?
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Great question Blitz!!! The second "GS" in the handle stood for "God Send", as I felt that following Shea, Greg was a God Send, so maybe I should change my handle now to "CAGS"?
 
I see it as a desperation move by Schiano. He can't get a head coaching job on his own so now he rides the coattails of Urban in the hopes that this will eventually land him a job.

Schiano has big shoes to fill. The last DC got them a national championship. I'm curious to find out if he can out do that; anything less would be considered a failure.
 
vkj91 said:
Don't folks realize how few of us care about Schinao?
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The number of threads about him and responses therein would argue otherwise. He will always be of interest here, for those who like him and those who don't. Though I don't understand the latter category. Absurd to say there is widespread disinterest.
 
zappaa said:
My dad went from being fired as NY Yankees manager to work as bench coach for the Houston Astros.
He loved it, and wasn't humbled because he wasn't humbled
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Almost all hc's who get fired go back to an assistant role waiting for the hc chance again. Very few Mark Richt situations out there.

GS will get the big chair again. Just hope it's not PSU or any B10 school.
 
ru-baby said:
Almost all hc's who get fired go back to an assistant role waiting for the hc chance again. Very few Mark Richt situations out there.

GS will get the big chair again. Just hope it's not PSU or any B10 school.
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Trouble for us might be his best is yet to come.....C'mon HCCA...put us in a comfortable spot...
 
OSU will probably win at least 1 NC while he's there. Then he'll be back on the radar as a college HC candidate.
 
fg7321 said:
Oh the Humanity Please humble me like Greg Schiano has been humbled!

The Schiano leg humpers are out of control ........
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I think it's pretty simple for the majority concerning GS.

If it gets confirmed that we offered him a bona fide deal and he turned it down, then the majority can move on. However, if he was not offered a bona fide deal and Hobbs tried to put his own stamp and we ended up with a GS like dc just not yet as polished when the polished one was out there, the issue will continue to arise.

IMO the best thing for Hobbs to do is get it out in some form that he tried to get GS and it was GS who didn't want in. The RU faithful will then move on. Until that gets confirmed one way or the other we will continue to see this handwringing no matter how some try to shout it down.
 
Goof God, people act as if Schiano is the only coach to ever struggle in the NFL and the only former head coach to return as a coordinator. I can't tell if people are ignorant or simply trying to rub it in or something.

When guys like Gene Chizak win the National Championship find themselves as Defensive Coordinators, I hardly think it's so humbling for Schiano to do the same.

This happens more than not. It would have been humbling if he had to head coach or be a coordinator in div 2 or 3. He's at a program that would be a dream job for many.

Hate him or don't hate him, it's hard to argue that he's a part of Rutgers football history -- especially modern history.
 
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RUfromSoCal? said:
Ummmmmmm..... Unless he totally sh$ts the bed, he just became the next head coach of Texas or Tennessee or Auburn, etc etc.

D coordinator at tOSU will be courted in 2-4 years.
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+1

This move is the quickest route to an elite head coaching job. He might even pick up a few pointers about running an offense.
 
Um, he is the assistant head coach and DC at national champion OSU. He will continue with a strong defense for them and likely be in contention for another title. Then someone is hiring dc and assistant head coach for the Ohio state Buckeyes versus a failure in the nfL. Poor guy
 
I am both a Rutgers and an OSU dad. My son went to Rutgers in the late 90s. I think that they won 3 games in the 4 years he was there. For all of the baggage that Schiano appears to have on this board he did what nobody else did at Rutgers . He put them in the national conversation even if was only for a short time.

The OSU side of me thinks that you have a home run hire in Ash. Certainly the best that was realistically out there for Rutgers. The Rutgers side of me hopes that I am right.

As for the Schiano hire all that I can say is that the OSU fan base which is among the most spoiled in CFB and is about a tough an audience as one will find in CFB is overwhelming thrilled with this hire. The OSU side of me hopes that they are right.
 
zappaa said:
My dad went from being fired as NY Yankees manager to work as bench coach for the Houston Astros.
He loved it, and wasn't humbled because he wasn't humbled
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but he exemplified the best of the greatest generation
 
I wonder what kinda pay cut he took for this job. He was making what $3 million at Tampa? Plus, I would think RU probably offered him 2-2.5 million (if its true we went after him). I know OSU got a solid DC, but I guess it shows how Schiano over played his hand, he was offered 2 HC jobs.
 
Other than this board, has anyone seen anything about Rutgers offering him the job?
 
pancakeman86 said:
I wonder what kinda pay cut he took for this job. He was making what $3 million at Tampa? Plus, I would think RU probably offered him 2-2.5 million (if its true we went after him). I know OSU got a solid DC, but I guess it shows how Schiano over played his hand, he was offered 2 HC jobs.
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He's still is making that 3, whatever OSU is paying him and the Tampa adding their part to make his 2016 salary $3 million
Knowing if he didn't get any of the HC positions he wanted he could take the best available job in 2016 to set himself up for a great HC opportunity for the 2017 season. That's not overplaying your hand, it playing the cards that you were dealt and using them to stay in the game.

No reason for Schiano to settle for less in 2016 when 2017 might bring the type of HC position he desires.
 
MADHAT1 said:
He's still is making that 3, whatever OSU is paying him and the Tampa adding their part to make his 2016 salary $3 million
Knowing if he didn't get any of the HC positions he wanted he could take the best available job in 2016 to set himself up for a great HC opportunity for the 2017 season. That's not overplaying your hand, it playing the cards that you were dealt and using them to stay in the game.

No reason for Schiano to settle for less in 2016 when 2017 might bring the type of HC position he desires.
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I guess thats a fair point, he is making $3 million regardless. But I would think it would be much easier to move from HC position from a lesser school to a much better school assuming your successful. The top programs seems like they always pull HCs from somewhere else. Which is why I would think he be better at UCF or Rutgers and trying to do really well.

If he does well at OSU, he probably would be back where he was last year looking at HC positions at low to mid-level P5 schools. But, who knows, I guess he has solid HC experience so it he does really well at OSU I can also see him getting a high profile P5 job. I imagine he is going to do very very well at OSU, they got a solid hire. I'm surprised he went to a DC position in college, I figured if he was going to be an assistant he try to do in the NFL.
 
ru-baby said:
I think it's pretty simple for the majority concerning GS.

If it gets confirmed that we offered him a bona fide deal and he turned it down, then the majority can move on. However, if he was not offered a bona fide deal and Hobbs tried to put his own stamp and we ended up with a GS like dc just not yet as polished when the polished one was out there, the issue will continue to arise.

IMO the best thing for Hobbs to do is get it out in some form that he tried to get GS and it was GS who didn't want in. The RU faithful will then move on. Until that gets confirmed one way or the other we will continue to see this handwringing no matter how some try to shout it down.
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too much drama. i don't care
 
RBNY87 said:
There were reports that he turned down UCF waiting for Miami so maybe he regrets this since he could have stayed in Florida
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Think about this point in terms of the thread subject. Is it better to be the HC of a Group of 5 team that will never have a chance at the playoffs and is a long shot for an NY6 bowl or the DC of the defending national champion who barely missed the playoffs this year and is playing in the Fiesta Bowl? He can spend one or two years in Columbus doing what he does best (defensive coordinator and recruiting) to reestablish himself to get a P5 head coaching job. Take the UCF job and Schiano's in Orlando for at least 3 seasons and probably at least 5 (Justin Fuente spent 4 years at Memphis, which is about what Schiano would have to have spent at UCF in my opinion).

Good luck to Schiano except when recruiting NJ and when playing RU. I think he's an outstanding DC and recruiter while being an average at best head coach. We know GS is an 8-4 head coach because of his recruiting prowess and defense.
 
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