Duke Will have its whole staff at the John Wall Holiday for 2024 PG Dylan Harper
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I think Dylan Harper isn’t going to choose Duke over RU because GRF thinks what makes our program successful is the system over the players.
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I said both those in regards to before we land any transfers. I think cam spencer is good for one more b1g win.
I also stand by pikes year 1 team being more talented than year 7 pre spencer.
Corey, mike williams, nigel johnson, deshawn, gettys, euegene o, candido sa, shaq doorson
Paul, caleb, mag, cliff, simpson, hyatt, woolfork, reiber,
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Haha i said this his frosh year. He sucked his frosh year, could barely dribble. Now go back and pull clips from his frosh year that say otherwise. Every time i ask people to do that they shut up.
Frosh year: shot 34% from the field fyi
That’s just a laughable and stupid statement to make when the roster isn’t even complete.
To double down and even try to rationalize it is even dumber
Cliff vs Gettys and our overall size 1-3 makes this not close to me.
It's Woolfolk.
Preseason 1st team all conference Cliff, DPOY Caleb, leading assists in B1G Mulcahy
vs.
Corey Sanders
Granted there was reason to question how good the rest of our roster would actually be. But come on, man. You were wrong! Mag is better on D than the rest of that 1st roster. Woolfolk and Simpson must be blowing away your expectations. Hyatt has flaws in his game, but can score and plays a big role for this roster. Reiber looks like he's taken a step back feel last year to this point, but something's got to give. Woolfolk has taken a lot of his minutes IMO.
It's funny how this board, and message boards in general, seem to push negative. I remember with Caleb it went from: 1 - No way he comes back for a 5th year, to 2. he will transfer to Florida State or to a blue blood. Believe it or not, Rutgers can have nice things too. My point being, both Rutgers and Duke are very reasonable choices for Dylan Harper. There's really no reason to act like one choice is so much better than the other.
Kyk also bashed RJH (and Geo) for being soft, coddled and spoiled.
Maybe he doesn’t want Dylan haha.
Maybe he doesn’t want Dylan haha.
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Cliff can be preseason whatever. Our eyes arent lying to us. Theres at min five 5’s in B1G wed take over him
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anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy
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Soft minded, yes. They went insane during the blm shit, it was quite embarrassing.
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anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy
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He aint coming here cupcake. Again, if your goal is 1 and done and duke wants you, you go there. Guess his 5 time nba champ father is someone you should laugh at as well.
Yeah that's not ideal. Oh well. Always said I wouldn't be mad if he picked Duke. (Now if he had picked Indiana...)
I’m laughing at your all time bad takes on Rutgers basketball…
Not whether Dylan commits to Rutgers or Duke. I wouldn’t fault or be surprised if Dylan committed to Duke and I already said that in this thread.
Keep up muffin.
If he commits to Duke he and his family will be bashed here relentlessly just as the players and coaches are game days.
I watched a bit of his 1st HS game this year. He reminded me a lot of his brother (good and bad), except that he is a lefty. Obviously if Duke is after him that means almost everything.
I don't think so. Most people would understand.
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Ive been right more than anyone here. One big whiff was omoyuri and jonathan taylor (which i recanted the summer before his frosh year and generally im not good at projecting rb’s from hs to college).
But whats really embarrassing is people saying whether dyland chooses RU or duke wont effect his nba draft stock ( you lol). People claiming this is a team this year that will not only make the tourney but make a run.
So I ask you, simple, put a prediction in writing. What will this teams B1G record be. Before the season in bac’s thread I said 8-3 ooc (nailed it) and 8-12 in B1G play. Personally id like to amend that to 7-13 due to the msu game being at the garden but ill leave it. 16-15. Whats yours
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anon_0k9zlfz6lz9oy
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No lol. Youd have to be a moron beyond belief to rip a 5* kid for choosing DUKE over Rutgers. Come on now. Indiana would be another story
Yes you’re right but it will be done. Many are currently ripping out recruiting class lack of playmakers and stars. The same ones ignoring a golden opportunity to actually do something about it and in basketball a double match that can be possibly used to sway a top kid here.
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Not sure why this is relevant or has anything to do with all of the bad basketball takes people in this thread have brought up which you’ll never admit were bad takes.
You still haven't made a good case for this other than to show that guys who are gonna be NBA picks choose to go to Duke and not Rutgers (big surprise).
Patrick Baldwin Jr. chose Milwaukee over Duke, was a projected top-10 pick, had a terrible season, and still wound up as a first round pick.
BJ Boston went to Kentucky, was a projected top-10 pick, had a bad season, and was picked #51.
Going to an off-the-radar school didn't kill PBJ's draft stock, and going to a blue blood didn't save Boston's.
Your crazy. Nigel’s stats at K-State and UVA should tell you all you need to know. Outside of Sanders, nobody on that team would play much on the current roster.
I remember when Sr. posted something critical of Pikiell during Jr's freshman year and there was a mild freakout that he was going to transfer or something.
Jason Williams didn’t have a brother here that was Rutgers royalty. We’re not ripping the family here.
If Dylan doesn’t come here, we’ll move on. We have a system after all.
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Heres the simple case. When you go to a program where youre the clear cut #1 and the supporting cast is mostly scrubs outside of one guy the entire oppositions game plan can be to key on you and shut you down.
When your game relies on driving and in 7 years of coaching ball here have been pikes teams national ranks for 3 point shooting %.
2017- 336
2018- 346
2019- 312
2020- 295
2021- 287
2022- 167
2023- 305
Now what does that allow defenses to do? I’ll answer for you, that allows defense to collapse on you and take away your driving lanes. This leads to tough shots, this leads to lower shooting %’s, this leads to worse stats, this leads to worse draft position, this leads to losing millions of dollars.
Response?
We are top 25-30 in every major rating. Your premise that the rest of the roster is scrubs is ****ing bullshit
Pike is responsible for 3 point shooting PERCENTAGE now? Gmafb, that’s a recruiting stat not a coaching stat
Go **** yourself
Interestingly people who do poorly in tests of logic think they are better at logic than people who really are better at logic.
Dylan Harper is the #5 recruit in the country. I am almost certain in order to be the #5 recruit in the country he is not thinking "what if they gameplan for me and shut me down?" The mindset to get to that level is "I'm ****ing awesome, let's see them try to stop me." Do you think defenses were not keying in on Obi Toppin, or Tyrese Halliburton, or Aaron Nesmith, or Ja Morant, or a hundred other guys who were surrounded by lesser talent? Didn't affect their draft stock. Believe it or not NBA scouts and GMs are able to evaluate players within that context.
Anthony Edwards played on the #71 offense and put up a 103 ORtg. Went #1.
Markelle Fultz played on the #111 offense. 113.6 ORtg. Went #1.
Cade Cunningham had a 104.2 ORtg on the #60 offense. Went #1.
Shaedon Sharpe sat out and didn't play in college. Went #6.
There are reasons to pick Duke over Rutgers. This is not one of them.
He never admits anything. Just doubles down on stupidity by moving the goal posts or pointing to some minor issue that misses the point.
KYK bad takes can really be boiled down to his guilt/denial of pushing Schiano.
1. Literally doesn't run an offense: Schiano
2. Not recruiting well: Schiano
3. Under 500 in the Big 10 every year: Schiano
I asked this yesterday, but didn’t get a response, why is Dylan better off being coached by scheyer than Pike.
Kyk keeps talked about how great of a program Duke, and they are… but that was under coach K.
In the 2022 recruiting class, Duke got 3 of the top 5 guys in the country. Guess what, two of those 5 star guys Duke got are averaging under 7 points a game. I understand players don’t get drafted based on stats, but it sure as hell doesn’t look like Scheyer is getting the full potential out of them.
So again, why are we assuming Dylan would do better under Scheyer than under Pike?
Kyk keeps talked about how great of a program Duke, and they are… but that was under coach K.
In the 2022 recruiting class, Duke got 3 of the top 5 guys in the country. Guess what, two of those 5 star guys Duke got are averaging under 7 points a game. I understand players don’t get drafted based on stats, but it sure as hell doesn’t look like Scheyer is getting the full potential out of them.
So again, why are we assuming Dylan would do better under Scheyer than under Pike?
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