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#Firechipkelly

You better hope that Charlie Strong goes on a huge winning streak because the Longhorn fans are already starting a collection plate for Kelly.
 
Just goes to show you can have all the schemes in the world, but if your O-line can't create holes or protect and your DB's can't cover, you're limited. And by limited, I mean toast.
 
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He'll pretty much be able to pick his landing spot if and when he ever decides to come back to college. I think that'll just depend on whichever place he wants to call home. He's got plenty of money between Oregon/Philly I think it's just about where he wants to coach and plant roots. Where that ends up being, who knows.
 
He'll pretty much be able to pick his landing spot if and when he ever decides to come back to college. I think that'll just depend on whichever place he wants to call home. He's got plenty of money between Oregon/Philly I think it's just about where he wants to coach and plant roots. Where that ends up being, who knows.

Texas will give him about 7M reasons to plant roots in Austin. We don't have the cash to land him.
 
Texas will give him about 7M reasons to plant roots in Austin. We don't have the cash to land him.
Haha, I'm under no illusions that we would. I'm just making a general comment and basically saying it's not necessarily about the money after a point. Sure he'll want to get paid and he will get paid but just about anywhere he ends up is going to pay him whether it's 5M or 7M is it that big a deal?

Look at Pelini going back to Youngstown, who would think that. Part of that might be something in his contract but part of it is probably him wanting to go back there at least for a bit. Point being you never know what's in a guy's head and after a certain point in a career money and such are factors but maybe not the biggest.
 
My point is, if RU wants to run with the big boys of the B1G east then they need to come up with the money when a program changing coach becomes available.
 
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How much money do you think the fans could put up if JH created a GoFundMe?
 
Haha, I'm under no illusions that we would. I'm just making a general comment and basically saying it's not necessarily about the money after a point. Sure he'll want to get paid and he will get paid but just about anywhere he ends up is going to pay him whether it's 5M or 7M is it that big a deal?

Look at Pelini going back to Youngstown, who would think that. Part of that might be something in his contract but part of it is probably him wanting to go back there at least for a bit. Point being you never know what's in a guy's head and after a certain point in a career money and such are factors but maybe not the biggest.

Good point. The expectations at Texas are brutal. He can take less money and come to a place like Rutgers and be a God for going 9-3/8-4 every year with a big win or two sprinkled in here and there. Meanwhile, Franklin makes $4M per year and loses to Temple U.
 
Is that the Kelly who was OC at New Hampshire and handed us our hat after the Michigan State win? If so, he owes us.

But I'm wondering if the more likely move is Strong to RU. Think about it.
 
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Good point. The expectations at Texas are brutal. He can take less money and come to a place like Rutgers and be a God for going 9-3/8-4 every year with a big win or two sprinkled in here and there. Meanwhile, Franklin makes $4M per year and loses to Temple U.
I think he'll still want to go to a place that he can win big and win a national championship. Maybe he'll go from Nike to Under Armour, lol. I don't know where he'll end up but just saying don't assume it's to the highest bidder. It'll likely be a place he can win big and will be paid well but where that is, who knows.
 
Just goes to show you can have all the schemes in the world, but if your O-line can't create holes or protect and your DB's can't cover, you're limited. And by limited, I mean toast.

Another problem is having QBs whose skill set does not match the scheme you are trying to run. Need to make a scheme fit your personnel, otherwise its just putting a square peg in a round hole.
 
He'll pretty much be able to pick his landing spot if and when he ever decides to come back to college. I think that'll just depend on whichever place he wants to call home. He's got plenty of money between Oregon/Philly I think it's just about where he wants to coach and plant roots. Where that ends up being, who knows.

I'm guessing he would look at things most successful coaches look at when considering positions.

Support (school, fans, money, community)
Compensation
Recruiting grounds
History


Rutgers sadly stacks low on the things that really matter.
 
I'm guessing he would look at things most successful coaches look at when considering positions.

Support (school, fans, money, community)
Compensation
Recruiting grounds
History


Rutgers sadly stacks low on the things that really matter.
I agree with all that. That's why I said above I think it would be a place that could win big and has a possibility of a national championship. I'm just saying don't automatically assume it's the highest bidder. Realistically thinking of spots that MAY be open next year and if he were to get fired say Texas, Georgia, Maryland (depending on under armour), USC.

It's extremely extremely extremely, did I say extremely, unlikely it would ever be RU. The only way it would be possible is like I said above in one of those you never know what's in guy's head circumstances. He's from the north east, maybe he likes the ny area and thinks he could build it up and create a NYC team for college football. But that line of thinking is pie in the sky 1 in million type dreaming, not something you'd logically conclude.
 
I agree with all that. That's why I said above I think it would be a place that could win big and has a possibility of a national championship. I'm just saying don't automatically assume it's the highest bidder. Realistically thinking of spots that MAY be open next year and if he were to get fired say Texas, Georgia, Maryland (depending on under armour), USC.

It's extremely extremely extremely, did I say extremely, unlikely it would ever be RU. The only way it would be possible is like I said above in one of those you never know what's in guy's head circumstances. He's from the north east, maybe he likes the ny area and thinks he could build it up and create a NYC team for college football. But that line of thinking is pie in the sky 1 in million type dreaming, not something you'd logically conclude.
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Chip Kelly is making $6.5 million now. If he gets fired, he is not going to be looking to get a pay cut.
 
Chip Kelly is making $6.5 million now. If he gets fired, he is not going to be looking to get a pay cut.
That's very possibly true but like I said after a certain point in a guy's career how much does the money matter. It's hard to know what's in a guy's head. Maybe it still matters a lot, maybe not as much. Who really knows. But he's not that up and comer still looking to make his first big payday for himself and his family. He's made a ton of money and anywhere he goes is going to pay him a ton of money. All I'm saying is don't just assume it's the highest bidder. It very well could be the highest bidder but I wouldn't automatically take it as a foregone conclusion.

The only thing I'd say is that's likely to be a place where he can win big and has a chance at a national championship.
 
There are 3-5 jobs in America that can realistically pay him north of $5MM.

If he wants to coach in college again, he's taking a pay cut anywhere other than Texas. Unless he plans on using some of the scratch to assassinate Saban, Urban, Stoops or Harbaugh.
 
I agree with all that. That's why I said above I think it would be a place that could win big and has a possibility of a national championship. I'm just saying don't automatically assume it's the highest bidder. Realistically thinking of spots that MAY be open next year and if he were to get fired say Texas, Georgia, Maryland (depending on under armour), USC.

It's extremely extremely extremely, did I say extremely, unlikely it would ever be RU. The only way it would be possible is like I said above in one of those you never know what's in guy's head circumstances. He's from the north east, maybe he likes the ny area and thinks he could build it up and create a NYC team for college football. But that line of thinking is pie in the sky 1 in million type dreaming, not something you'd logically conclude.


SC takes a lot of pride in their offensive style. They aren't hiring Chip Kelly to come in and change that.could see Texas though.
 
If your 5 O-linemen (+ RB sometimes) can't block 4 pass rushers, you can't run a spread offense. Period.

The threat of the read-option is supposed to take care of one of the edge defenders, but if no one respects that fake, the math goes back in favor of the defense.

The TV commentators had a great comment yesterday: "They're (the defense) is playing the run on the way to the QB."

Teams are content playing Cover-2 & Cover-3 and bump-n-run coverage the majority of the time trusting that one of their 4 rushers is going to get to the QB. Right now, that's exactly what's happening because Chip has failed to revamp the O-line with legit starters.

This year is really a toss-out -- let Bradford & the new WRs learn the offense. Chipper better bring in at least 2 veteran linemen and draft 2 more with high picks.
 
You better hope that Charlie Strong goes on a huge winning streak because the Longhorn fans are already starting a collection plate for Kelly.

No chance Rutgers can out raise Texas. Ever. Look for next candidate.
 
Haha, I'm under no illusions that we would. I'm just making a general comment and basically saying it's not necessarily about the money after a point. Sure he'll want to get paid and he will get paid but just about anywhere he ends up is going to pay him whether it's 5M or 7M is it that big a deal?

Look at Pelini going back to Youngstown, who would think that. Part of that might be something in his contract but part of it is probably him wanting to go back there at least for a bit. Point being you never know what's in a guy's head and after a certain point in a career money and such are factors but maybe not the biggest.
Yes - $2 million extra is a big deal.
 
That's very possibly true but like I said after a certain point in a guy's career how much does the money matter. It's hard to know what's in a guy's head. Maybe it still matters a lot, maybe not as much. Who really knows. But he's not that up and comer still looking to make his first big payday for himself and his family. He's made a ton of money and anywhere he goes is going to pay him a ton of money. All I'm saying is don't just assume it's the highest bidder. It very well could be the highest bidder but I wouldn't automatically take it as a foregone conclusion.

The only thing I'd say is that's likely to be a place where he can win big and has a chance at a national championship.
Which turn out to be the same places that can pay him lots of money. Of the places that might be theoretically looking for a new coach this year, Texas and Georgia are about it as far as legit chance to win a national title and to pay him big bucks.
 
You better hope that Charlie Strong goes on a huge winning streak because the Longhorn fans are already starting a collection plate for Kelly.
That's what I was thinking. They will always have the money for buyouts and huge hires.
 
Yes - $2 million extra is a big deal.
Well it depends on the person and what stage in life they're at. He's going to make 30M+ from the Eagles. He probably made around 10M at Oregon. Is an extra 8-10M or so going to make a big difference to quality of life issues or a place he may prefer to settle.

You can say it's a big deal from your perspective and it may be for most people but you can't tell what's in someone's head who's already made a ton of money. Texas was rumored to offer Saban 10M but he stayed at Alabama for 7M. That's 3M right there. Kelly is going to make a boatload wherever he goes I won't assume that the extra money is the only motivating factor. He may end up going to the highest bidder but I won't just take it as a foregone conclusion.
 
Which turn out to be the same places that can pay him lots of money. Of the places that might be theoretically looking for a new coach this year, Texas and Georgia are about it as far as legit chance to win a national title and to pay him big bucks.
Of course and I said that he's likely to go to a place where he can win big and have a chance at a national title. All I'm saying is don't assume that's automatically the highest bidder.

When you've already made 10s of millions the difference between 5 and 7 million isn't as great especially at a particular stage of life where other things may matter more.
 
I would think that repairing his reputation by winning would be his most important goal. So he would go to a school with the talent pool stocked.
 
Of course and I said that he's likely to go to a place where he can win big and have a chance at a national title. All I'm saying is don't assume that's automatically the highest bidder.

When you've already made 10s of millions the difference between 5 and 7 million isn't as great especially at a particular stage of life where other things may matter more.
I think you should take the other stance based on history. Always assume the highest bidder, because almost no one doesn't go to the highest bidder and if they do its usually for one of two reasons - better shot at winning, or closer to home.

Chip Kelly is form the Northeast and spent most of his time before Oregon coaching in the the Northeast - and mostly in New Hampshire where he was born, went to college, and spent most of his coaching career. But BC is the only BCS school in that area. So you can count that out. As far as I can tell from Wikipedia, he isnt married and doesnt have kids, so being closer to them is out too.

Then theres chance of winning. But Texas almost surely gives the best chance of winning of the major teams that will be looking for a coach. The Big 12 isnt as good as the SEC, and Texas has a better recruiting ground than Georgia. There really arent any other national title contenders who are looking for a coach right now.

And Texas will be able to pay the most money (they make more than anyone, and have boosters that are as capable as Planck of raising funds - I mean they paid $5 million a year for Charlie Strong!)

IN short - you would have to come up with some really wacky rationale to come up with something other than Texas as his destination assuming that Texas fires Strong.

Which is good - because it bumps everyone else back down a notch in the event we are looking for a coach. Rather Texas take a coach that was never coming here than one who might have been on our list of realistic candidates.
 
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