Fries to PSU

[RUwoz]

I'm not going to get into the who GS vs KF thing, but I will say that Kyle Flood was a miraculous half away from being hated again and on the hot seat. The Maryland game saved him, and made everyone forget that he can't recruit because it spiraled into a favorable matchup in a better bowl than we would have been in had we gone 6-6

 

[miketd1]

Dependably average. Is Kyle Flood the Honda Accord of coaching?

 

[Brazillm10]

Who cares, I'll take any player from Florida over these drama queen jersey guys. He will be a bust for them anyways, can't wait for our Dline to plow over him and smack him around when he comes back to Jersey

You've had three guys bail on your program and head back down I95 South to Fla and NC these past few weeks. I wouldn't say you guys are killing it in Florida just yet.

 

[ag67]

His family went to PSU. Were you honestly expecting anything different? I have close friends who are PSU alums. They are nothing like RU alums. They support everything PSU 100%. They do not feed on their young like RU alums.

 

[MADHAT1]

His family went to PSU. Were you honestly expecting anything different? I have close friends who are PSU alums. They are nothing like RU alums. They support everything PSU 100%. They do not feed on their young like RU alums.

No matter what I think about PSU, ( leaving out the cult and cover-up allegations ) Nit fans support everything Penn St and aren't ashamed to show it
Seems like many RU fans are afraid to fully show their support and are more than likely look for faults in the program they love and complain about that.
RU fans could learn a thing or two from the good Nits in how to support the program you love .

 

[zwick99]

Dependably average. Is Kyle Flood the Honda Accord of coaching?

Yugo.

 

[RC85]

His family went to PSU. Were you honestly expecting anything different? I have close friends who are PSU alums. They are nothing like RU alums. They support everything PSU 100%. They do not feed on their young like RU alums.

How deep are the family ties at Ped? Could shed a different light on this recruiting post mortem.

 

[kjb32812]

I think he will flip to Michigan.

This very well may be but why would he even commit to PSU in the first place? Everyone thought Michigan was his first choice to begin with and it isn't like he doesn't have an offer. We had no idea he was going to commit.

 

[NotInRHouse]

Franklin has beaten very few winning teams at both Vandy and TTFP....in fact at Vandy I don't think he beat any SEC teams with winning records.

Of course, the same can be said of Flood. So it is quite evident that Flood is not a good recruiter.

After 2007 we lost very few recruits to TTFP, if anything we started moving into Eastern PA.

Under Flood we lost 2 recruits each to Cuse and Temple. The "Flood is god" crowd wants you to think that was happening under GS after 2005- it wasn't and that was in the BE.

This is just another example of a commitment to a program with a worse record and as many if not more question marks to whom we did not lose these types of recruits to while GS was here.

 

[miketd1]

Yugo.

 

[KidTwist]

Oh the horrors. We still haven't gotten over the loss of Brendan Mahon, Angelo Mangiro, and Big-Time Bill Belton to Pedd St.'s superior recruiting and now we have to deal with them taking away our fries.
How will we possibly compete without fries?

You will compete, just not well! You will consistently take beatings from PSU on an annual basis. This ain't the Big East!! You either recruit BIG or you lay down for us every year!!!

 

[MADHAT1]

Seems these "non rival "folks spend a lot of time here.
The Nits will make a pretty good rivalry,
Right now RU isn't close to its potential, but good enough to beat the Nits.
I kike RU's chances this year, but to stay on top, recruiting the top players is a must.
Beat the Nits and RU will gain an edge when Flood goes head to head with Franklin because he can show rhat win.

 

[Local Shill]

You will compete, just not well! You will consistently take beatings from PSU on an annual basis. This ain't the Big East!! You either recruit BIG or you lay down for us every year!!!

isnt it past your bedtime , Junior?

 

[FanuSanu52]

You will compete, just not well! You will consistently take beatings from PSU on an annual basis. This ain't the Big East!! You either recruit BIG or you lay down for us every year!!!

Over three years since the scandal broke, and PSU fans still haven't learned how to rein in their phrasing.

Your program is forever tarnished by a sexual predator; try using some smack talk that doesn't make you sound like you're joyfully following in his footsteps.

 

[MADHAT1]

Over three years since the scandal broke, and PSU fans still haven't learned how to rein in their phrasing.

Your program is forever tarnished by a sexual predator; try using some smack talk that doesn't make you sound like you're joyfully following in his footsteps.

Some people will never learn, their mentality won't let them.

 

[Kbee3]

"You will compete, just not well! You will consistently take beatings from PSU on an annual basis."

So 13-10 is a beating where you come from ? Or do the beatings start in the upcoming season ?
You were lucky your quarterback pulled a last minute drive out of his arse in 2014. How about showing a little respect for an opponent who gave you a hard fought close game that you were fortunate to win ? And how about waiting until you actually give RU a beating before you brag about them ?

 

[rucoe89]

Dream Team 2020!

(Just hedging my hopes here:sunglasses:)

 

[GoodOl'Rutgers]

Chris Rock once said "A Man's Only as Faithful as His Options". Easier to stay home when you have fewer options.

I wonder what his wife and the mother of his children would think about that.

More New Jersey athletes should be staying home. Unfortunately, New Jersey itself has as much to do with this as does Rutgers or the coaches or the profile of the football team. From the local TV stations being based in NYC and Philly and covering national stories more than local.. to the local writers who are also affected by thinking they are bigger than New Jersey... we, Rutgers fans, are screwed.

 

[BIGRUBIGDBIGredmachine]

How deep are the family ties at Ped? Could shed a different light on this recruiting post mortem.

Any more detail on the family connections at Ped st? Any Fries play fball there? Any association with Sandusky-era?

 

[RUsmrtrthna5thgrdr]

Any more detail on the family connections at Ped st? Any Fries play fball there? Any association with Sandusky-era?

Wow, ur just fishing for a rant against the kid with a comment like that. U do understand that these aren't pro free agents right? Rutgers doesn't have the reputation or the talent that penn state has (based on recruiting) and Fries did somehow have a connection to penn state.

Move on to the next one. I know some posters on here think it's a joke when these threads go 3 pages but it is pretty sad that the most active threads on this whole board are pen state threads so that the same posters can make the same Sandusky jokes.... What's the definition of insanity?

 

[rucoe89]

I wonder what his wife and the mother of his children would think about that.

More New Jersey athletes should be staying home. Unfortunately, New Jersey itself has as much to do with this as does Rutgers or the coaches or the profile of the football team. From the local TV stations being based in NYC and Philly and covering national stories more than local.. to the local writers who are also affected by thinking they are bigger than New Jersey... we, Rutgers fans, are screwed.

NJ is an afterthought of NYC in the north and Philly in the South. Always has been and seems like always will be.

 

[miketd1]

The perception is that one "can do better". In a lot of aspects (coach, prestige, degree, facilities), they can. The one thing we have going for us is that we offer the ability to play in front of friends and family. Unfortunately, it would seem a lot of kids just want to get away. And even playing in front of friends and family were a draw, the B10 East teams can simply say they'll be in NJ every other year (similar to the message we had for Florida kids when we were in the Big East).

 

[MADHAT1]

Wow, ur just fishing for a rant against the kid with a comment like that. U do understand that these aren't pro free agents right? Rutgers doesn't have the reputation or the talent that penn state has (based on recruiting) and Fries did somehow have a connection to penn state.

Move on to the next one. I know some posters on here think it's a joke when these threads go 3 pages but it is pretty sad that the most active threads on this whole board are pen state threads so that the same posters can make the same Sandusky jokes.... What's the definition of insanity?

 

[yesrutgers01]

I am kind of confused...We just went 8-5 in our first year in the big with arguably our hardest schedule ever but now expect never to win 6 game again. Just who in the hell was dress up like Flood on the sideline if he will never win more then 6-7 games? What a damn joke some of you are.

We have a 4 star national ranked QB on our roster- 3 very very good RB's and 2 of them here for the next few years. The OL is young but looking to be much more solid. Both OL/DL is getting bigger, etc etc etc. We took our lumps last year against the big boys. We may take a couple again this year bt I don't think all 4 of them blow us out. After this year, our cross over games become much easier. And though we did not get the big names on paper in this 16 class, we are getting one of our best classes ever.

And no- GS never built the wall around NJ. You guys have got to be kidding me. It improved the last couple of years but while I do agree he may have gotten one or two more then Flood has, he would not have gotten Rettig, doubt he would have still been giving Ford the love and don't think Hester would have come back into the family.

Just saying

 

[miketd1]

yesrutgers: I hear what you are saying, but while we are improving, so too are Michigan & Maryland...

 

[MADHAT1]

I am kind of confused...We just went 8-5 in our first year in the big with arguably our hardest schedule ever but now expect never to win 6 game again. Just who in the hell was dress up like Flood on the sideline if he will never win more then 6-7 games? What a damn joke some of you are.

We have a 4 star national ranked QB on our roster- 3 very very good RB's and 2 of them here for the next few years. The OL is young but looking to be much more solid. Both OL/DL is getting bigger, etc etc etc. We took our lumps last year against the big boys. We may take a couple again this year bt I don't think all 4 of them blow us out. After this year, our cross over games become much easier. And though we did not get the big names on paper in this 16 class, we are getting one of our best classes ever.

And no- GS never built the wall around NJ. You guys have got to be kidding me. It improved the last couple of years but while I do agree he may have gotten one or two more then Flood has, he would not have gotten Rettig, doubt he would have still been giving Ford the love and don't think Hester would have come back into the family.

Just saying

Yes, those things might have happened with Schiano as HC, but the fact is they happened because Kyle was involved, Greg shouldn't even be mentioned when trying to show Flood doesn't deserve to be bashed like he has been by some.
Especially claiming what he could or could not have done in an effort to make Kyle look better than him.
Flood will prove that on his own, or we'll find out how good he is very shortly and then we can decide if he's an upgrade on the man he replaced ..
I'd bet some of the Flood's no good bunch were members of the Schiano must go clan because he never delivered a title.
I was and still am a Schiano supporter, but feel it was for the best he left.
I'm not convinced Kyle will prove to be better and move RU FB to the next level, but willing to give him a chance .
He earned that last year, at least in my opinion he did and I am far from a Flood groupie, just not a hater.
Kyle must build on last season, not rest on it to keep my support.

RU fans can look at last year anyway they want, claim blowout loses make season not so successful, some games could have gone either way and use that to knock the season and/or find other reasons to dispute Flood's 2014 team beat expectations and Kyle deserves credit for
the way RU FB made the so-called experts in the media and message boards eat a bit of crow.
But now after eating crow, the same Kyle is no good, RU will lose BS is up and at it again. Just like before last season began.

 

[RUchip]

You THINK PSU has better brand recognition than Rutgers? Really? I'm sorry but that isn't even a debate. PSU definitely has better brand recognition regionally than Rutgers. Despite the fact that we were at the center of the worst scandal in CFB history our brand still continues to thrive. This is evidenced through our continued success recruiting and our TV viewership. We continue to be one of the most watched teams nationally as well as one of the most valuable programs nationally. It can not change in a short period of time. It can change, but it will take years of sustained success on par or better than ours to overtake our brand.

Yea the brand is doing great. Fn cult world you people live in.

 

[yesrutgers01]

yesrutgers: I hear what you are saying, but while we are improving, so too are Michigan & Maryland...

How do we know they are? Michigan has always been on a different recruiting level then us but over the recent years, have not played like they have. I don't think their recruiting has improved at all. And we will see how much JH gets them to play better.
I would guess that Maryland has for the most part over the years, out recruited us too but also have not played better then us. Haskins makes us think they are improving faster and they may be...but as of now, they still have HCRE

 

[jerzeyguy]

1.Starting an unproven QB who has played very little on gameday since his arrival.

2.Lost our best football mind (The Fridge) and he's being replaced by another unproven.

3.The O-Line is young an inexperienced.

4. The Defense could be on the field a whole lot this year. Will they were down again?

5. Most of our winnable games are on the road this year. Flood is not going to happy valley and Ann Arbor this year and winning

This is a 6 win team

 

[miketd1]

yesrutgers: Well, you mentioned having a 4-star QB on our roster as reason to be optimistic going into next season. Michigan obviously has a surplus of 4-stars at every position. And while Maryland collapsed against us, we should not forget that Maryland had us on the ropes and simply failed to deliver the KO blow.

In general, I like what Flood is doing. I really do. However, I still can't see us winning more than 7 games a year. OSU, Michigan, & Michigan State are several levels ahead of us. PSU -- as much as I hate to admit it -- is still ahead of us and fortifying their ranks rapidly. I would say Maryland is our equal and a must-win game every year if we even want to think about a bowl game.

I see next year as particularly challenging because even if one of Rettig/Laviano turns out to be the real deal, the TE and FB positions are so critical to our offense that I predict the losses of Kroft and Burton will be a tremendous struggle to overcome.

It just seems like when it comes to stocking our pro-style offense, just when you have some pieces in place, you lose some elsewhere. At a minimum, we need "plus" RBs, FBs, & TEs, one "plus" possession receiver, and an "ok" QB and "ok" linemen. That's a lot to fill right there...

 

[BoogieKnight]

Sure but he did it more consistently than Flood is. And he certainly did it for two consecutive years before he left. One can imagine that he would have been even better at it with the Big Ten on his side.

Greg wasnt the best recruiter ever. it took him a decade and a couple of hot shots on the staff to really kick it up a notch. But he does show that its possible for a Rutgers coach to recruit NJ well - and that was with the conference crumbling and losing our BCS bid a real possibility. There is simply no excuse for Floods inability to get NJ top ten talent (or the equivalent from out of state).

When Flood is gone is 3-4 years, and we higher someone else, it will show up pretty quickly how lame all of these excuses really are for his dismal recruiting.

Fair points. But even of the 2011 class, while it looked great on paper, how many of those NEW JERSEY 4 -star and high 3-star recruits really lived up to their top billing in OUR program?

Myles Shuler? Nope
Marquise Wright? Nope
Max Isakka? Nope
Savon Huggins? Nope
Tejay Johnson? Nope

Only New Jersey kid from that class who has panned out as an absolute college stud is Keith Lumpkin. Gary Nova was a great physical talent, a 4 year starter who won a lot of games for us and had a very good senior campaign but at the same time drove us insane with frequent multiple interception games and bizarre mental mistakes like throwing the ball beyond the line of scrimmage.

Best players from that class aside from Lumpkin were all out of state kids like Kaleb Johnson, Tyler Kroft, Dewany Mera, Kevin Snyder and Quentin Gause. Point being...New Jersey has a lot of scholastic talent. It also has a lot of over-hyped prospects who never pan out and while every state has players who don't pan out the next level, NJ's talent pool isn't as deep as a state like Florida or Ohio or Pennsylvania.

 

[rutgersdave]

Fair points. But even of the 2011 class, while it looked great on paper, how many of those NEW JERSEY 4 -star and high 3-star recruits really lived up to their top billing in OUR program?

Myles Shuler? Nope
Marquise Wright? Nope
Max Isakka? Nope
Savon Huggins? Nope
Tejay Johnson? Nope

Only New Jersey kid from that class who has panned out as an absolute college stud is Keith Lumpkin. Gary Nova was a great physical talent, a 4 year starter who won a lot of games for us and had a very good senior campaign but at the same time drove us insane with frequent multiple interception games and bizarre mental mistakes like throwing the ball beyond the line of scrimmage.

Best players from that class aside from Lumpkin were all out of state kids like Kaleb Johnson, Tyler Kroft, Dewany Mera, Kevin Snyder and Quentin Gause. Point being...New Jersey has a lot of scholastic talent. It also has a lot of over-hyped prospects who never pan out and while every state has players who don't pan out the next level, NJ's talent pool isn't as deep as a state like Florida or Ohio or Pennsylvania.

I glad we don't have any highly rated NJ recruits because they might be over rated, Maybe that's Flood plan. Go for the under rated players because if they failed, they were suppose to fail.

 

[RUInsanity]

This is a 6 win team

I'll take a guess that whatever the win-count next year and even if the team wins 8......you will go on to claim it was a failure.

 

[MADHAT1]

1.Starting an unproven QB who has played very little on gameday since his arrival.

2.Lost our best football mind (The Fridge) and he's being replaced by another unproven.

3.The O-Line is young an inexperienced.

4. The Defense could be on the field a whole lot this year. Will they were down again?

5. Most of our winnable games are on the road this year. Flood is not going to happy valley and Ann Arbor this year and winning

This is a 6 win team

Don't bank on just 6 win, if you are going by 1 to 5, because there are an equal number of reasons to suggest Rutgers will win more than 6.

#1) despite being the starter for 3 years, last year's QB was unproven and considered unreliable by many .
This season RU has a potential replacement with 3 years in the system and one of the top QB from the class of 2013 that
now is in his second year as a Scarlet Knight and should be getting more comfortable running the RU O.

#2) lost our best football mind (as OC), but retaining him as a consultant to help the new OC that is supposed to be an up and comer
in the coaching ranks

#3) Brodie RS Jr, Denman RS Jr, Lumpkin RS Sr, Miller RS Soph, Muller RS Jr, Nelson RS Jr and all have had some playing time.
Add the RS Freshmen ( who you can say are young) and the OL shouldn't be a worry, because it is talented along with haveing the experience needed to be a successful OL

#4) RU has some running backs that along with an experienced OL might eat up the clock and tire out the opposing D.

#5) Overcoming home field advantage is what all visiting teams must do, even the ones that come to HPSS to play Rutgers.
Maybe some of the loses expected at home, could turn into winners because of home cooking .

When you look for reasons why RU can lose, don't forget the reasons why the Scarlet Knights can win more games then it loses.
Rutgers needs to win the games it's expected to, no matter where it's played, beat the teams that might be toss-up games, no matter where game is played and pull off an upset at HPSS crediting home cooking for that.
Maybe pull one off on the road , because Upsets Happen (as long as it doesn't happen to RU )

I'm not into Doom and Gloom before the season starts. I look for the positive , which helps me look forward to the season starting.
I'll let others (so called realists ) dread how RU will do in 2015, I'll expect the same as last season , beating the expectations naysayers
have put on them.

 

[jerot]

Anymore?

 

[RC85]

Anymore?

Yeh, when do we find out the extent of Fries' connections to Ped? It's a fair question imho since some on here are killing Flood and/or spouting theories about the lagging in-state reputation of RU, etc. Is this the burning issue in this world that seems close to spinning out-of-control? No, but it's relevant to fans of RU football.

 

[GSGS]

That's the spirit! Kid makes the decision to attend the university of his choice and of course, bring up Sandusky. Pathetic

Sandusky? Sandusky? Do you really think that the Penn State scandal was about Sandusky? Yes, he was a monster, but truth be told, he could have happened anywhere. FYI, the scandal was about:

• A school administration and football program that covered up a pedophile for well over 10 years while dozens of boys got molested.
• A "legendary" football coach who was revealed as a total fraud just before he died.
• A school who forced out their VP of disciplinary actions because she didn't go along with the head coach and establish a separate set of rules for FB players.
• A school and fanbase who mocked the UofMiami and continually referred to their football players as thugs as they got shellacked on the field by the Canes, only to have such a five year period of arrests that ESPN did a special on it.
• A FB program that had less NCAA (minor) violations than any other, simply (as it was found during the post-scandal investigation) because they never self reported them.
• A FB program that had the nerve to use the fraudulent slogan "Success with Honor".
• A student body that rioted when their beloved JoeFraud was fired.

RUsmrtrthna5thgrdr - well you just answered your own question,, R U smarter than a 5th grader? - F*ck no, you aren't smarter than a 5th grader, not to mention not giving a sheet about their welfare (5th grade is around the average age of Sandusky's victims).

 

[RUsmrtrthna5thgrdr]

Sandusky? Sandusky? Do you really think that the Penn State scandal was about Sandusky? Yes, he was a monster, but truth be told, he could have happened anywhere. FYI, the scandal was about:

• A school administration and football program that covered up a pedophile for well over 10 years while dozens of boys got molested.
• A "legendary" football coach who was revealed as a total fraud just before he died.
• A school who forced out their VP of disciplinary actions because she didn't go along with the head coach and establish a separate set of rules for FB players.
• A school and fanbase who mocked the UofMiami and continually referred to their football players as thugs as they got shellacked on the field by the Canes, only to have such a five year period of arrests that ESPN did a special on it.
• A FB program that had less NCAA (minor) violations than any other, simply (as it was found during the post-scandal investigation) because they never self reported them.
• A FB program that had the nerve to use the fraudulent slogan "Success with Honor".
• A student body that rioted when their beloved JoeFraud was fired.

RUsmrtrthna5thgrdr - well you just answered your own question,, R U smarter than a 5th grader? - F*ck no, you aren't smarter than a 5th grader, not to mention not giving a sheet about their welfare (5th grade is around the average age of Sandusky's victims).

GS, ur so incredibly blinded by ur hate of penn state that ur unwilling to listen to anyone who doesn't agree with u. Ur also making things up in ur argument as almost all of what u just said is completely wrong, like undebatably wrong, false, or just lies. I choose to adopt a different policy and no I don't hate penn state, no I don't hate their culture, in fact I'm a bit jealous of it. I wish that Rutgers had a fan base and alumni as passionate as penn state's. If Rutgers had sanctions like pen state went through it would destroy the program, Rutgers football would be worse than temple.

U wanna constantly talk about the scandal? Ok here u go yes it was ENTIRELY about Jerry Sandusky and his victims. Had Jerry not done anything than Joe Paterno would have his name on every major award in college football. U hate joe Paterno, did before the scandal and now that u have a reason to rag on him ur never going to stop, GS and the other cult members (people who only bring up Sandusky and the scandal as their response to everything penn state). My take is this, we can all say that Joe should have done more and this that and the other but the truth is in this one case in and otherwise spotless 60+ year career at that school but he didn't. It was a horrible crime and I do not believe joe thought he was doing anything wrong. I believe he was incredibly naive in this sense and it's a true shame and my heart goes out to the victims but I believe that Joe thought he did the right thing. to give u the answer u want to hear yes, Joe should have done more but he didn't, but like I said, I believe that in his mind he thought that he had done his job so I still respect the man and consider him the greatest college football coach of all time. Meanwhile idiots like u talk about the man as if his name was Adolf.

Maybe ur memory is short or selective but it's pretty F'd up that our school just recently fired an assistant basketball coach for doing the right thing and reporting mike rice to Tim Pernetti and Pernetti didn't even watch the tape continued to allow mike rice to abuse his players when the evidence was right in front of him on video that he didn't even bother to watch. just slapped a small suspension and fine... Don't u think he could have done more.....

But because it's the school u cheer for u choose not to acknowledge our flaws and all u do is hate on other schools. It's gonna be a sad when in five years from now ur still spewing the same garbage trying to make urself feel better about Rutgers. For me, I support my alma mater, want us to win but respect our big ten neighbors. Golden rule, treat others the way u want to be treated, don't worry about their actions.

U won't listen though, go ahead and continue to make urself look like a giant D bag and a complete loser who constantly makes the Sandusky scandal about football. I'm sure I'll get banned for this but GS, u are a terrible representative of Rutgers and I'm ashamed that we support the same school

 

[MADHAT1]

RUsmrtrthna5thgrdr
won't go into everything you got wrong in your reply to GSGS, but you should check your facts before posting ,
(our school just recently fired an assistant basketball coach for doing the right thing)
The Director of Basketball Operations didn't have his contract renewed , so brought those charges to the AD demanding money .
(yes it was ENTIRELY about Jerry Sandusky and his victims. Had Jerry not done anything than Joe Paterno would have his name on every major award in college football.)
Sandusky molesting children is a an issue , but the cover-up is The Issue and Nit football is the main part of that issue.
Try to figure out what is being discussed, before posting foolishly

"U won't listen though, go ahead and continue to make urself look like a giant D bag and a complete loser, " is more about you ( not GSGS)
because of the way you post.

 

[RUsmrtrthna5thgrdr]

RUsmrtrthna5thgrdr
won't go into everything you got wrong in your reply to GSGS, but you should check your facts before posting ,
(our school just recently fired an assistant basketball coach for doing the right thing)
The Director of Basketball Operations didn't have his contract renewed , so brought those charges to the AD demanding money .
(yes it was ENTIRELY about Jerry Sandusky and his victims. Had Jerry not done anything than Joe Paterno would have his name on every major award in college football.)
Sandusky molesting children is a an issue , but the cover-up is The Issue and Nit football is the main part of that issue.
Try to figure out what is being discussed, before posting foolishly

"U won't listen though, go ahead and continue to make urself look like a giant D bag and a complete loser, " is more about you ( not GSGS)
because of the way you post.

Huh? Did u really just say something about the director of basketball? WTF? Eric Murdock was by no means the director of basketball operations, he was an assistant coach who Tim Pernetti didn't believe and got wrongfully fired for doing the right thing... Those are facts, Murdock first reported mike rice to Tim Pernetti in August of 2012, nothing was even done until December 2012 which was a suspension and fine. Murdock was fired and 6 months later the video surfaced... Ur completely wrong in ur argument once again.

Ur as wrong about this as u were the university of Miami. I assume u were referring to the "fatigue" game back in 1986 when Miami players walked out of the plane in fatigues and left the bowl game dinner early because they thought they were better than anyone, guess what? Penn state didn't get shellacked that game, pen state WON that game along with the national championship so once again STFU because u know nothing, ur spewing ur hate and convincing urself that everything pen state does and stands for is wrong. I honestly think u (And all other cult members) would rather see pen state do poorly than Rutgers do well. It's as if u have 2 favorite teams, Rutgers and whoever is playing pen state... Sad, pathetic, ur going to be miserable more times than not