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Georgetown 4 - ND 3 at the half at South Bend

Big win for GT. Will really help our RPI, as well as Loyola's who beat them badly. I love how Quint completely excuses that loss for "being so early". Think he gives Rutgers that same leeway lol #Rhetorical

I haven't seen Duke play yet and ND will likely get better, but that isn't a number 1 team right now.
 
Big win for GT. Will really help our RPI, as well as Loyola's who beat them badly. I love how Quint completely excuses that loss for "being so early". Think he gives Rutgers that same leeway lol #Rhetorical

I haven't seen Duke play yet and ND will likely get better, but that isn't a number 1 team right now.
Loyola pounded Georgetown 18-10

Fast forward and Georgetown beats Penn and now #1 ND after losing to Hopkins and Loyola…kudos to the Gtown staff for not tinkering and over coaching…sometimes you gotta let lines and player combinations get connected and play lots of reps together to grow and get better…not blow things up at the first sign of a difficult game….fine line

Meanwhile Loyola is struggling losing three straight to:

#3 Maryland
#8 Hopkins
#15 Rutgers

Loyola has played the #2 SOS so far and they still have #19 Towson and #2 Duke in the next 10 days…yikes..😳

Funny game especially knowing RU got run off the field by Army a week earlier…and they bounced back

Confidence and matchups are a funny thing

Hope RU keeps stacking wins…they have a few very winnable games now and then Princeton…I expect RU to win out the OOC…
 
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If we win out in the OOC then it is beyond mission accomplished given some key injuries. We get Princeton at home which should be an advantage. One at a time though.

Loyola plays a looking tough Towson squad. Hopefully they get by that one and have some house money vs Duke, whom they often play tough and even beat.

As I always say this time of year, a lot of lacrosse to go and anything can happen. Keep grinding.
 
If we win out in the OOC then it is beyond mission accomplished given some key injuries. We get Princeton at home which should be an advantage. One at a time though.

Loyola plays a looking tough Towson squad. Hopefully they get by that one and have some house money vs Duke, whom they often play tough and even beat.

As I always say this time of year, a lot of lacrosse to go and anything can happen. Keep grinding.
Winning out in OOC and we are in business. We would just need to get likely 2 wins in B1G to be firmly in the mix for May Madness, 3 B1G wins or more to be a bonafide lock for the Dance.
 
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Loyola pounded Georgetown 18-10

Fast forward and Georgetown beats Penn and now #1 ND after losing to Hopkins and Loyola…kudos to the Gtown staff for not tinkering and over coaching…sometimes you gotta let lines and player combinations get connected and play lots of reps together to grow and get better…not blow things up at the first sign of a difficult game….fine line

Meanwhile Loyola is struggling losing three straight to:

#3 Maryland
#8 Hopkins
#15 Rutgers

Loyola has played the #2 SOS so far and they still have #19 Towson and #2 Duke in the next 10 days…yikes..😳

Funny game especially knowing RU got run off the field by Army a week earlier…and they bounced back

Confidence and matchups are a funny thing

Hope RU keeps stacking wins…they have a few very winnable games now and then Princeton…I expect RU to win out the OOC…
Mr. Kamish, any thoughts from your son about the game against Rutgers? It would be interesting to know his impressions. Thanks.
 
One from his other son who was there was Rutgers was more athletic, especially at the midfield. This was very apparent on tv. They were having a hard time with our offensive guys especially at midfield and with Ross. No offense to Reynolds the RU transfer. He’s a nice player and would be in our rotation at defensive midfield, but if hes the top cover guy that’s going to be a tough day going against Ross.
 
Mr. Kamish, any thoughts from your son about the game against Rutgers? It would be interesting to know his impressions. Thanks.
Honestly over the years with both my guys the post event conversations don’t go deep into game recaps. Win or lose, it’s more about being thankful for the opportunities they have been given…being thankful to play at the highest level against the best teams in big games in the best venues…I mean there is nothing I can offer my guys other than a handshake, a hug, and a meal…they don’t want to hear my thoughts on what they could have done better…these kids know…the highs are very high, but man, the lows are very low for these athletes…they all work so hard…as fans if you think losing is bad, think about how they feel…remember that when posting during a bad loss…

More often than not the conversation has very little discussion about the other team and is more about how they didn’t execute or failed to deliver on opportunities or a game plan…most often the go forward with all these teams and kids is not what the other team did but more about how they need to get better and get a win in the next game…its all about the next game…you can’t dwell on a loss. Look at what RU did…they were beaten down by Army…they didn’t dwell on it and got better and won the next week…the turn arounds are fast…focus is forward

Joe has great respect for RU lacrosse…he has had great success vs RU when he had a hatrick and scored the game winner vs RU as a freshman in 2020…but that was a long time ago with a lot of games and injuries and battles in between

RU is just like the other big ten teams Loyola just played…big, fast, talented…but if you don’t play well and control your own things, you don’t win…

From my view, the guys that stood out on Sat for RU we’re 27, 5, and 33….Shane and Ross are just elite and Jack has just developed into a really really good player that is dynamic…those three stood out…great kids and great families…

Bottom line…Loyola needs to get confidence back and focus on the patriot…when you play the OOC schedule Loyola does you have great risk because your playing the best…they have zero layups like a lot of teams schedule…if you are out of synch…you take losses…Last year Loyola beat UMD and Hop in back to back weeks…this year they were losses…

Rutgers is judged on 3, maybe 4 OOC games (Loyola, Army, Princeton, Umass) and then the big ten…RU can and needs to be much better in conference this year…last year was not good…1-5…can’t have that this year

Bottom line you gotta focus on you and get better weekly…RU has the pieces and get a few guys back and they could be a factor

The biggest challenge for coaches and all teams is consistency. Can you get your kids to play at the same level EVERY week…the best teams do that well

I always tell my guys after games, “it’s not the critic who counts…it’s actually the man in the arena” 😏😜. I stole that from great speech

If RU plays like they did vs Loyola, they’re gonna be in good shape!

Cheers!
 
Honestly over the years with both my guys the post event conversations don’t go deep into game recaps. Win or lose, it’s more about being thankful for the opportunities they have been given…being thankful to play at the highest level against the best teams in big games in the best venues…I mean there is nothing I can offer my guys other than a handshake, a hug, and a meal…they don’t want to hear my thoughts on what they could have done better…these kids know…the highs are very high, but man, the lows are very low for these athletes…they all work so hard…as fans if you think losing is bad, think about how they feel…remember that when posting during a bad loss…

More often than not the conversation has very little discussion about the other team and is more about how they didn’t execute or failed to deliver on opportunities or a game plan…most often the go forward with all these teams and kids is not what the other team did but more about how they need to get better and get a win in the next game…its all about the next game…you can’t dwell on a loss. Look at what RU did…they were beaten down by Army…they didn’t dwell on it and got better and won the next week…the turn arounds are fast…focus is forward

Joe has great respect for RU lacrosse…he has had great success vs RU when he had a hatrick and scored the game winner vs RU as a freshman in 2020…but that was a long time ago with a lot of games and injuries and battles in between

RU is just like the other big ten teams Loyola just played…big, fast, talented…but if you don’t play well and control your own things, you don’t win…

From my view, the guys that stood out on Sat for RU we’re 27, 5, and 33….Shane and Ross are just elite and Jack has just developed into a really really good player that is dynamic…those three stood out…great kids and great families…

Bottom line…Loyola needs to get confidence back and focus on the patriot…when you play the OOC schedule Loyola does you have great risk because your playing the best…they have zero layups like a lot of teams schedule…if you are out of synch…you take losses…Last year Loyola beat UMD and Hop in back to back weeks…this year they were losses…

Rutgers is judged on 3, maybe 4 OOC games (Loyola, Army, Princeton, Umass) and then the big ten…RU can and needs to be much better in conference this year…last year was not good…1-5…can’t have that this year

Bottom line you gotta focus on you and get better weekly…RU has the pieces and get a few guys back and they could be a factor

The biggest challenge for coaches and all teams is consistency. Can you get your kids to play at the same level EVERY week…the best teams do that well

I always tell my guys after games, “it’s not the critic who counts…it’s actually the man in the arena” 😏😜. I stole that from great speech

If RU plays like they did vs Loyola, they’re gonna be in good shape!

Cheers!
Great post, as usual. Thank you!
 
they don’t want to hear my thoughts on what they could have done better…these kids know…

This quote resonates with me as I feel like I am at the inflection point with my son where feedback I give him after a game may now be counter productive as he is already receiving advice from club, school and specialist coaches.

As much as it pains me I should probably not provide unsolicited advice and just wait until he asks.
 
This quote resonates with me as I feel like I am at the inflection point with my son where feedback I give him after a game may now be counter productive as he is already receiving advice from club, school and specialist coaches.

As much as it pains me I should probably not provide unsolicited advice and just wait until he asks.

Or ask what the coaches said which might elicit the question.
 
Honestly over the years with both my guys the post event conversations don’t go deep into game recaps. Win or lose, it’s more about being thankful for the opportunities they have been given…being thankful to play at the highest level against the best teams in big games in the best venues…I mean there is nothing I can offer my guys other than a handshake, a hug, and a meal…they don’t want to hear my thoughts on what they could have done better…these kids know…the highs are very high, but man, the lows are very low for these athletes…they all work so hard…as fans if you think losing is bad, think about how they feel…remember that when posting during a bad loss…

More often than not the conversation has very little discussion about the other team and is more about how they didn’t execute or failed to deliver on opportunities or a game plan…most often the go forward with all these teams and kids is not what the other team did but more about how they need to get better and get a win in the next game…its all about the next game…you can’t dwell on a loss. Look at what RU did…they were beaten down by Army…they didn’t dwell on it and got better and won the next week…the turn arounds are fast…focus is forward

Joe has great respect for RU lacrosse…he has had great success vs RU when he had a hatrick and scored the game winner vs RU as a freshman in 2020…but that was a long time ago with a lot of games and injuries and battles in between

RU is just like the other big ten teams Loyola just played…big, fast, talented…but if you don’t play well and control your own things, you don’t win…

From my view, the guys that stood out on Sat for RU we’re 27, 5, and 33….Shane and Ross are just elite and Jack has just developed into a really really good player that is dynamic…those three stood out…great kids and great families…

Bottom line…Loyola needs to get confidence back and focus on the patriot…when you play the OOC schedule Loyola does you have great risk because your playing the best…they have zero layups like a lot of teams schedule…if you are out of synch…you take losses…Last year Loyola beat UMD and Hop in back to back weeks…this year they were losses…

Rutgers is judged on 3, maybe 4 OOC games (Loyola, Army, Princeton, Umass) and then the big ten…RU can and needs to be much better in conference this year…last year was not good…1-5…can’t have that this year

Bottom line you gotta focus on you and get better weekly…RU has the pieces and get a few guys back and they could be a factor

The biggest challenge for coaches and all teams is consistency. Can you get your kids to play at the same level EVERY week…the best teams do that well

I always tell my guys after games, “it’s not the critic who counts…it’s actually the man in the arena” 😏😜. I stole that from great speech

If RU plays like they did vs Loyola, they’re gonna be in good shape!

Cheers!
Such a great post
 
This quote resonates with me as I feel like I am at the inflection point with my son where feedback I give him after a game may now be counter productive as he is already receiving advice from club, school and specialist coaches.

As much as it pains me I should probably not provide unsolicited advice and just wait until he asks.
I’m almost there as well. It’s getting more frequent where I can ask “son if you do this or why did you try that” and he answers with some finer detail of gameplay that makes total sense. It’s a fun maturation to watch.
 
Honestly over the years with both my guys the post event conversations don’t go deep into game recaps. Win or lose, it’s more about being thankful for the opportunities they have been given…being thankful to play at the highest level against the best teams in big games in the best venues…I mean there is nothing I can offer my guys other than a handshake, a hug, and a meal…they don’t want to hear my thoughts on what they could have done better…these kids know…the highs are very high, but man, the lows are very low for these athletes…they all work so hard…as fans if you think losing is bad, think about how they feel…remember that when posting during a bad loss…

More often than not the conversation has very little discussion about the other team and is more about how they didn’t execute or failed to deliver on opportunities or a game plan…most often the go forward with all these teams and kids is not what the other team did but more about how they need to get better and get a win in the next game…its all about the next game…you can’t dwell on a loss. Look at what RU did…they were beaten down by Army…they didn’t dwell on it and got better and won the next week…the turn arounds are fast…focus is forward

Joe has great respect for RU lacrosse…he has had great success vs RU when he had a hatrick and scored the game winner vs RU as a freshman in 2020…but that was a long time ago with a lot of games and injuries and battles in between

RU is just like the other big ten teams Loyola just played…big, fast, talented…but if you don’t play well and control your own things, you don’t win…

From my view, the guys that stood out on Sat for RU we’re 27, 5, and 33….Shane and Ross are just elite and Jack has just developed into a really really good player that is dynamic…those three stood out…great kids and great families…

Bottom line…Loyola needs to get confidence back and focus on the patriot…when you play the OOC schedule Loyola does you have great risk because your playing the best…they have zero layups like a lot of teams schedule…if you are out of synch…you take losses…Last year Loyola beat UMD and Hop in back to back weeks…this year they were losses…

Rutgers is judged on 3, maybe 4 OOC games (Loyola, Army, Princeton, Umass) and then the big ten…RU can and needs to be much better in conference this year…last year was not good…1-5…can’t have that this year

Bottom line you gotta focus on you and get better weekly…RU has the pieces and get a few guys back and they could be a factor

The biggest challenge for coaches and all teams is consistency. Can you get your kids to play at the same level EVERY week…the best teams do that well

I always tell my guys after games, “it’s not the critic who counts…it’s actually the man in the arena” 😏😜. I stole that from great speech

If RU plays like they did vs Loyola, they’re gonna be in good shape!

Cheers!
If you couldn't tell, Matt and his wife raised some really great kids. Both Loyola and Rutgers are better off having them as part of their lacrosse families. It's very hard to be a parent and comment objectively on what they see and what is happening. I wish more parents would be able to post here but I completely get why they don't. Matt being a former D1 athlete himself certainly has unique perspective.

We should all be thankful for Matt's insights over the years. It's not easy but he's navigated the big wins and tough losses with grace and wisdom that even as an alum and fan of the program I don't always see.

His post above really hit home. I think back to the conversations I used to have with my Dad after wins and losses and it was exactly the same. Rarely about the other team.

Thanks again for the post, Matt. Great as usual.

I have hopes for Loyola. There are opportunities ahead and they have enough talent to win big games. I'll be rooting for them and Joey in particular.
 
Or ask what the coaches said which might elicit the question.

I love when the coach gives him individual feedback after a good/bad play as it gives you insight to both the coach and player. I want to know if the coach is imparting detail that will help the player progress or if it is just "Good Job"/ "Keep your chin up" to try and keep the players head in the game.
 
Honestly over the years with both my guys the post event conversations don’t go deep into game recaps. Win or lose, it’s more about being thankful for the opportunities they have been given…being thankful to play at the highest level against the best teams in big games in the best venues…I mean there is nothing I can offer my guys other than a handshake, a hug, and a meal…they don’t want to hear my thoughts on what they could have done better…these kids know…the highs are very high, but man, the lows are very low for these athletes…they all work so hard…as fans if you think losing is bad, think about how they feel…remember that when posting during a bad loss…

More often than not the conversation has very little discussion about the other team and is more about how they didn’t execute or failed to deliver on opportunities or a game plan…most often the go forward with all these teams and kids is not what the other team did but more about how they need to get better and get a win in the next game…its all about the next game…you can’t dwell on a loss. Look at what RU did…they were beaten down by Army…they didn’t dwell on it and got better and won the next week…the turn arounds are fast…focus is forward

Joe has great respect for RU lacrosse…he has had great success vs RU when he had a hatrick and scored the game winner vs RU as a freshman in 2020…but that was a long time ago with a lot of games and injuries and battles in between

RU is just like the other big ten teams Loyola just played…big, fast, talented…but if you don’t play well and control your own things, you don’t win…

From my view, the guys that stood out on Sat for RU we’re 27, 5, and 33….Shane and Ross are just elite and Jack has just developed into a really really good player that is dynamic…those three stood out…great kids and great families…

Bottom line…Loyola needs to get confidence back and focus on the patriot…when you play the OOC schedule Loyola does you have great risk because your playing the best…they have zero layups like a lot of teams schedule…if you are out of synch…you take losses…Last year Loyola beat UMD and Hop in back to back weeks…this year they were losses…

Rutgers is judged on 3, maybe 4 OOC games (Loyola, Army, Princeton, Umass) and then the big ten…RU can and needs to be much better in conference this year…last year was not good…1-5…can’t have that this year

Bottom line you gotta focus on you and get better weekly…RU has the pieces and get a few guys back and they could be a factor

The biggest challenge for coaches and all teams is consistency. Can you get your kids to play at the same level EVERY week…the best teams do that well

I always tell my guys after games, “it’s not the critic who counts…it’s actually the man in the arena” 😏😜. I stole that from great speech

If RU plays like they did vs Loyola, they’re gonna be in good shape!

Cheers!
You sir, are at the very top of the pyramid as a fan and a parent. I truly wish there were more like you, not only in lacrosse, but in all sports. You get it. While I know how proud you are of your boys, I am sure they are just as proud of you.
 
Pro tip. Don't play of those Kamish boys in golf. Especially Pops. Young guns bomb it like no one's business but Dad doesn't miss. Played two rounds with him and saw one errant shot. Incredible stuff.
 
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This quote resonates with me as I feel like I am at the inflection point with my son where feedback I give him after a game may now be counter productive as he is already receiving advice from club, school and specialist coaches.

As much as it pains me I should probably not provide unsolicited advice and just wait until he asks.

Pro tip. Don't play of those Kamish boys in golf. Especially Pops. Young guns bomb it like no one's business but Dad doesn't miss. Played two rounds with him and saw one errant shot. Incredible stuff.
Too funny…we need to do it again soon @Caliknight

I’ll be down in Kiawah with #44 in a few weeks and trust me when I say that I want very badly to beat him a few times 😏😜
 
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As well as he hits it my money is on you. Game is still getting spoken about!
 
I always ask my son the same questions after games or practices.

1. What did you do well today?
2. What do you feel you can do better?

Then I ask him if he wants me to give feedback, but once we are in the car I am dad only and no longer a coach.
 
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Those are definitely good approaches. I’m sure it was a challenge for my old man at times. He was a AA at Maryland and knows the game. But somehow he was always able to play dad. It was always what he saw I should do more off, decision making thoughts, and what do I need to get better at. Especially when I was younger. Once college came, he was just a fan basically.

The refs though lol
 
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Don't even get me started on refs at the youth level. Feels like some of them never picked up a stick, just skimmed a rule book, grabbed a whistle and committed to mediocrity (at best).
Yes! My pet peeve is how they call it differently from season to season. "Well I wouldn't have called that in spring cause it is legal but its winterball." Jeez man seriously?
 
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I will say the college game is getting increasingly hard to ref. The speed and size of the guys now it is tough to see it all in real time, especially plays around the crease. My pet peeve is even with replay they get it wrong. Ross clearly had an obvious goal taken away against Loyola that was good.

The other area is the subbing game is a game unto itself now and teams are doing different things all in real time which makes offsides tough to spot.
 
I will say the college game is getting increasingly hard to ref. The speed and size of the guys now it is tough to see it all in real time, especially plays around the crease. My pet peeve is even with replay they get it wrong. Ross clearly had an obvious goal taken away against Loyola that was good.

The other area is the subbing game is a game unto itself now and teams are doing different things all in real time which makes offsides tough to spot.
Yeah, the fact that the refs reviewed Scott’s goal and STILL disallowed it — despite the video clearly showing he was at least 6 inches from the crease line — was just abominable. Even the commentators on ESPN+ were perplexed.
 
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I will say the college game is getting increasingly hard to ref. The speed and size of the guys now it is tough to see it all in real time, especially plays around the crease. My pet peeve is even with replay they get it wrong. Ross clearly had an obvious goal taken away against Loyola that was good.

The other area is the subbing game is a game unto itself now and teams are doing different things all in real time which makes offsides tough to spot.
TV does not do justice to what goes on in the box and change game. Its really fascinating to watch…if you ever get a chance to sit field level or be on the field for a high level D1 game…the speed is incredible…the sounds…

I stood field level at one of Brennan’s PLL games a couple years ago…insane speed and athleticism.
 
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TV does not do justice to what goes on in the box and change game. Its really fascinating to watch…if you ever get a chance to sit field level or be on the field for a high level D1 game…the speed is incredible…the sounds…

I stood field level at one of Brennan’s PLL games a couple years ago…insane speed and athleticism.

Reminded me of a quote during the Rangers - Flyers outdoor hockey game at Met Life where Saquan Barkley was a guest sitting near the rink. Interviewed between periods he said television does not do the game justice because you never understand the speed of the game until you see it live and close.
 
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Yes! My pet peeve is how they call it differently from season to season.

Yes the college game is tough to ref and anything around the crease presents issues as they have to eyes down to see feet placement but also up to catch a push in the back, slash, interference, etc..

At the high school and more specifically club level my satisfaction with refs would greatly increase if they called stuff to the head/neck and unnecessary roughness more "intelligently", meaning know your audience and address the issue quickly.

It is so predictable that when a kid gets hit in the head or cheaped and nothing gets called that the other team will respond with a retaliatory hit to get their pound of flesh and it is these increasingly escalatory hits when someone gets injured.

It can quickly get to the point where on a ground ball, kids aren't even looking for the ball they are just running into the mix, shoulder down just trying to cheap shot someone and had the ref just called the mildest 1 minute penalty initially the escalation would have been prevented and the game played out much smoother.

I see this more in Club as I am not sure if there are long term consequences, a fight will get you kicked out of the game but I think that is it and you are back in for the next one. While you see it in the high school game a little bit I think fights and the nastier stuff will get you suspended a couple games by your school so it is less prevalent.

I will finish this diatribe by saying that I played lax in the previous century so I am all too familiar with the accepted physicality then vs. now and I suspect this happens now because back then we knew there wouldn't be a call so you just accepted that you got crushed and you went about playing (even if a bit on the woozy side) whereas now when the call isn't made kids feel slighted and they need to take the law into their own hands.

In short if the rule is there, call it and do it consistently so the kids can play the game and minimize the chippyness.
 
Reminded me of a quote during the Rangers - Flyers outdoor hockey game at Met Life where Saquan Barkley was a guest sitting near the rink. Interviewed between periods he said television does not do the game justice because you never understand the speed of the game until you see it live and close.
Good comparison and I agree. Hockey is a much better sport to watch in person…TV does not capture the speed, grace, and skill of the NHL players…incredible talents better seen in person

Go Wings! 😜😏
 
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