I’m not arguing here but you assume our 6’ 10 bigs could keep pace with the inbounder running the baseline (one step fake left, springt right) which I don’t think would have happened (just my opinion)
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I’m not arguing here but you assume our 6’ 10 bigs could keep pace with the inbounder running the baseline (one step fake left, springt right) which I don’t think would have happened (just my opinion)
If it required a miraculous tip to a player who hits a desperation bank shot from the corner, then defensive call wasn’t the issue. Coach obviously felt doubling Bohannon was the priority.
What team knocked down on a later buzzer beater? the one that was at the hash? a little different. funny thing is pikiell did what a hall of fame coach did. love it.....
3.5 seconds enough time to catch dribble and shoot inside the half court
When I coached ran a nice press leaving the inbounder open - five covering four with the length of the court was a major advantage.
When I coached ran a nice press leaving the inbounder open - five covering four with the length of the court was a major advantage.
What do you mean I don’t know what I am talking about ?
Laettner buzzer beater in the elite eight. Pike was on the team that got beat because they didn’t guard the inbounder.
I certainly sure do know what I am talking about. I think you don’t. It was only one of the most historic shots in the ncaa tournament ! Buzzer beater to get to the final 4.
laettner took one step on the floor was foul line extended then took one dribble too the corner of the foul line. that is very different from a full court pass. Calhoun should have guarded the in bound pass in that situation without a doubt. but to compare the two is silly.
The Laettner shot was against Kentucky but carry on. The play with UConn was an inbound from the sideline. Pass in and return pass.
Yes, it’s different. Either way pike would be second guessed if it doesn’t work. That’s how it goes in sports . If that bank shot clangs out we aren’t even discussing it. But this is what fans do.
I was talking about the UConn play because pike was there for that. Didn’t mention anything about Kentucky . Was pike in the spectrum that day?
seeing that he obviously got this from calhoun(the same calhoun who is in the basketball hall of fame) i am ok with it. This was not totally mind boggling. if i had the time(which i dont) i would go back to look at all of calhouns late game situations and see where he doubled the best player and it worked. the buzzer beaters are easier to find because everyone remembers them which makes it harder.
that being said it is all coaches preference. this is not what lost us the game. it ultimately was the dagger but their were other mistakes that i thought led to this. i can find fault with the coaches, players and refs.
that being said it is all coaches preference. this is not what lost us the game. it ultimately was the dagger but their were other mistakes that i thought led to this. i can find fault with the coaches, players and refs.
Look, I'm not saying that the decision to guard Bohannan with 2 guys rather than have 1 of them play the inbounder isn't debatable but the point a lot of people are missing is that with 3.3 seconds left you don't NEED to throw a long touchdown pass like they had to with the Laettner play against Kentucky to get in position to get a good look. Duke only had about 1 second to play. Those are completely different scenarios. Completely different. AND with 1 second, Laettner even had time to put the ball on the floor, shimmy and turnaround to shoot with only 1 second to play because he only 1 guy on him.
Hell, there was actually a fraction of a second left on the Iowa play AFTER Weiskamp's shot went it. 3.3 seconds is a lot of time. Do NOT let Bohannon touch the ball.
Hell, there was actually a fraction of a second left on the Iowa play AFTER Weiskamp's shot went it. 3.3 seconds is a lot of time. Do NOT let Bohannon touch the ball.
You are an idiot
And trolling for no reason
For the record
Duke beat Kentucky on that shot in 1992 in the elite 8 and pike was not in the court
The game you mentioned that duke beat uconn was a half court play in 1990 ...In the meadowlands and
Go check YouTube for historical reference before you open your big mouth and speak garbage
You guys speak as if the pass was a successful one. It was a tipped ball. Nothing close to Laetner’s clean catch. So IMO the strategy looked fine to me. 3 seconds is a lot of time to dribble and put up a good look if Bohanon only had one player on him. The only thing I wish had occurred was that we closed out better. Freak tip to the guy in the corner, but he still had a good amount of space.
I thought they should have Johnson guarding the inbounder, but if #3 somehow got open and the ball he was money to score or draw a foul
This is a total second guess on my part, but in hindsight maybe Doorson should not have been on the floor. Maybe McConnell would have been a better matchup, since Iowa had four shooters and no bigs.
That said, Doorson played it OK. He did give a good bit of room, but closed quickly and forced the shooter to rush his shot. Weiskamp didn't shoot in any kind of rhythm, just chucked up a prayer which was answered.
The shot being referred to is the 1990 last second shot by Laettner vs UCONN at the Meadowlands!! Pike was on the team. It was CL’s OTHER shot. Forgotten about because of his shot at the Spectrum vs Kentucky two years later. I was at the regional semifinal, where oddly enough, UCONN won by a very similar shot to the other night. Tate George from deep in the corner after a long heave . (over Clemson. Duke beat UCLA in the other game)
Bill Belichick always designs a game plan to take away your best player and make someone else beat you. That's exactly what Pikiell did but stuff happens. I can sort of live with a freak bank shot high off the glass after a loose ball scramble. I could NOT live with Bohannan getting the ball and getting a shot off or drawing a foul and sinking two FTs to beat us in regulation.
Well, it was the wrong way to look at it. First, it would have been a difficult inbounds pass with Johnson all over him. Second, Mathis denying the inbounds pass would have made it difficult for him to get the ball. As it was, they were running him all over the place just to get him the ball in the halfcourt. It was a God awful strategy and out of the norm for 95% of college coaches. That decision cost RU the game. Play the inbounder and we win - plain & simple. We just said here throw the ball the length of the court - mind boggling.
To guard or not to guard the inbound is exactly what message boards are made for.
Everyone has their opinion and points being made for and against
Everyone has their opinion and points being made for and against
I don’t have a problem with the way it was played. It was 1 in 10,000. 1 in a million of he called “glass”.
Bohannon coming off a screen and getting an open-ish look from halfcourt is a higher percentage shot than Wieskamp throwing it up the way he did from the corner.
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