Have the NJ pipes opened just a bit?
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Right now if HCCA can get us a top 40 class i'll be optimistic for next yr....hoping we get a few Ohio guys...NY/NJ-Fla-Pa/Md-Ohio is one helluva bluecollar recruiting base..
Jeff Hafley was a tremendous recruiter because of his ability to connect with the kids. When he spoke to them, it wasn't just about going to Rutgers. It was about life - how they were doing, their family, girlfriend, call of duty, world of warcraft, crap like that. AND he was genuine about it. THAT is how you build relationships. Building relationships takes time.
Now don't get me wrong - relationships is just one factor, albeit a big one.
The coach also needs to have "stain". The kids and those near the kids have to believe in the coach. This means WINNING.
I don't expect this year's recruiting class to all of a sudden return to the Hafley days. The relationships Flood destroyed have to be rebuilt AND Ash needs to show he can win. Then and only then, will you see recruiting become good again.
Now don't get me wrong - relationships is just one factor, albeit a big one.
The coach also needs to have "stain". The kids and those near the kids have to believe in the coach. This means WINNING.
I don't expect this year's recruiting class to all of a sudden return to the Hafley days. The relationships Flood destroyed have to be rebuilt AND Ash needs to show he can win. Then and only then, will you see recruiting become good again.
"Relationships Flood destroyed" ? Not sure I'm getting this one. Supposedly players and coaches alike liked Flood and members of his staff. It sounds more like he couldn't close the deal...or that they didn't think as much of his coaching up ability....but rarely if ever did I hear he wasn't like or had burned any bridges
If Ash can get us to the point where no one ever refers to a coach having or not having "stain" again, I will consider his hire to have been a success.
This. RU-2055 had a very good post going but like others feels the need to take a shot at Flood. The kids loved Flood. He came in at a bad time. He followed the guys who built us up and then, oh yeah, we then jumped into the Big 10 and are playing a schedule only rivaled by the Shea years.We needed a guy who could take us to the next level and I agree that was not Flood. Hopefully it is Ash.
If you guys all really feel the need to find fault with Flood I would say his biggest issues were being stubborn and being too soft on the players. Being stubborn worked for Schiano and it works for Harbaugh, Meyers and many others. But I think Flood's biggest problem was all of the off field stuff that may or may not have been his fault but he gets the blame being HC. Maybe he took some kids that were talented but we may have passed on a few years ago because we needed to compete with a much tougher schedule. Whatever the case, you can't start true freshmen at BOTH Cornerback positions 2 out of 3 years and expect to succeed. Those players that left or were booted killed us. It is on Flood whether it is his fault or not. Now stop making up so many other reasons to hate the guy. He came in 2005 and that is when we started going bowling. He was a big part of our success from 2005-2009. Thank you for that Kyle. I am sorry to bring up something about the past but there are just too many cheap shots being taken that really are not all that accurate.
Now it's all about Ash. Let the past go. Ash has to be the guy that takes us to the next level. He seems to have that IT factor that RU-2055 describes well above.
Ash = 3 characters
HCCA = 4 characters and sounds moronic
Moronic huh, so does going to the trouble to share this ridiculous thought/time waster...the board can count but thanks for the lesson....are you part of the RU100...Whats next....my lack of a question mark..that particular key is dysfunctional.....
I'm a hop, skip and jump away from having to wear Depends and have my kids change me. I'm not casting any stains in underwear stones from this glass house. [roll]
Don't worry, you and Manhattan can go and applaud the fine coaching career of HCRE together.
I believe Hafley was at Rutgers 1.25 years. I looked at his recruits for 2011 and all 3 recruits never saw the field. In 2012, he had 4 recruits. The world didn't revolve around a Hafley.
Your description about getting involved in the recruits and building relationships is right but Hafley affected 1 year recruits.
RE was a below avg HC lousy recruiter...FWIW...but try telling that to those on UConns board..I believe he peaked there at average and held them back then disaster struck...PP.....hope i didn't come across as sarcastic...hung over..lol..
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I'm not sure dave but I think he means if you include his clock cleaning of us when he was at Pitt he was amazing...lets be honest here...Wanny took many of his ''FHCGS'' primo targets up to Pitt through JH....i used to wonder how Wanny came here and left us basically leftovers until Wanny got fired and Angelichio,Cignetti and Haf were hired. That's when GS looked best here....then he left..I'm pretty sure GS will impart wisdom on Ash..
I agree. Where did this analogy "stain" come from? It makes me think of underwear stain. Ewwww.
So 2 kids that RU did not offer because they felt they had better commits/targets make you feel good about recruiting?
Campbell is better than Gray.
Hill had no previous RU offer and only 2 P5 offers and is a 2*. Same 2* kids that Flood was ridiculed for.
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