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Hobbs says fundraising update in 2 weeks

Several things to take into consideration, Chris:

- people are not used to donating to a specific fund

- people "ear-mark" their donations to other funds or sports

- the majority of people make their donations from April-Dec and not Jan-March due to a # of reasons (tax returns, post-July 1st bonuses, etc, etc)
I disagree this fund to build badly needed facilities is special and we dropped the ball. What you are doing is just giving weak excuses.
 
I disagree this fund to build badly needed facilities is special and we dropped the ball. What you are doing is just giving weak excuses.

We are moving forward with the multi-purpose facility, not sure how a ball was dropped. Still work to be done.
 
Yeah Jim I'm sure you gave big bucks to this fund.
The fact of the matter is that you're a whiny bitch. You complain about everything.

This is huge news we've been given today and it's only been 15 weeks into Hobbs's tenure. No negatives with this at all!
 
The fact of the matter is that you're a whiny bitch. You complain about everything.

This is huge news we've been given today and it's only been 15 weeks into Hobbs's tenure. No negatives with this at all!
Lol I complain about the same thing all the time guys like you that just run the mouth and give opinions and nothing else. So sad that I'm right about this fabulous generous fan base. How much did you donate Jim? Your probably just another blowhard who when it's time to step up decides to step off and do nothing that really will help Rutgers. Less than a thousand people gave so that we can close the gap with our competition.
 
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Personally I am very surprised that only 900 of us donated or pledged money. We have many thousands of football season ticket holders and we use to have a few thousand basketball season ticket holders. I would think that many of these people could have pledged something no matter how little they could afford. Every little bit adds up.
 
chrisru99, think of it this way: the ball was dropped years ago and just know it is being picked up.
Through Mulcahy, Pernetti and Herman's tenure as the RU AD the ball just seemed to slippery to handle, but Hobbs seems to have some found a way to pick it up and get the donations needed..
 
Are you happy that less than 1000 people donated to the fund? It shows what this alumni and fan base is? CHEAP and Small Time.
Are you happy with bitching so hard? This is great news and all you can do is complain. We got enough money for the building process to start for our grand basketball facility. In 5 months. 5 f***ing months. Why are you a fan? Seriously you just lived through 20 years of nothing for basketball and they announce they have 50 million lined up to go directly to helping the sport and all you can do is complain...what a sad, prepubescent 13 year old girl you are.
 
huge news that we passed the $50 million mark and what was raised by Hobbs is a good solid number...however I do see where Chris is coming from too. 11 of the 29 million is just from 3 donors...so the biggest donors have already been tapped, then we have some other million dollar donors, which means the rest of the RU community has alot of work to do. So what that said what was announced today was something we all should be pleased about and Hobbs is doing a very good job at raising money at a school like Rutgers that doesnt give..but its also not a spectacular number when you count up how many alum we have
 
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Are you happy with bitching so hard? This is great news and all you can do is complain. We got enough money for the building process to start for our grand basketball facility. In 5 months. 5 f***ing months. Why are you a fan? Seriously you just lived through 20 years of nothing for basketball and they announce they have 50 million lined up to go directly to helping the sport and all you can do is complain...what a sad, prepubescent 13 year old girl you are.
why insult? Your the one that's probably butt hurt because I'm making sense with my statement. Another loud mouth who thinks his opinion is more important than anyone else. Go donate some money to RU I highly doubt you did that tough guy.
 
why insult? Your the one that's probably butt hurt because I'm making sense with my statement. Another loud mouth who thinks his opinion is more important than anyone else. Go donate some money to RU I highly doubt you did that tough guy.
You're just miserable. 50 mil and you're till complaining and blindly lashing out at people. Seriously..over 50 mil in 5 months and you're complaining. It's absolutely pathetic.

And no..i can't make any sense from someone complaining about 50 millions dollars in donations. You sound like a brat.
 
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I hear a lot of people complaining about donations to athletics and to the school in general. It is a documented fact, backed up by university studies, that the more you win in football and basketball the greater your alumni donations. Given that this university, over the last 35 years, has invested as little as possible in athletics and facilities it would not take a rocket scientist to understand that winning would suffer. It would be an interesting study to figure out how much more the alumni giving would be if we lived up to our potential in the last 35 years and had we taken the more aggressive proven path. I am willing to bet that we would be in a much better place financially if we had invested on day one. I don’t place the entire blame for this lack of investing on RU, the state of NJ is also to blame.
 
I hear a lot of people complaining about donations to athletics and to the school in general. It is a documented fact, backed up by university studies, that the more you win in football and basketball the greater your alumni donations. Given that this university, over the last 35 years, has invested as little as possible in athletics and facilities it would not take a rocket scientist to understand that winning would suffer. It would be an interesting study to figure out how much more the alumni giving would be if we lived up to our potential in the last 35 years and had we taken the more aggressive proven path. I am willing to bet that we would be in a much better place financially if we had invested on day one. I don’t place the entire blame for this lack of investing on RU, the state of NJ is also to blame.

RU has had huge athletic subsidies. At some point people need to donate to promote winning instead if waiting for teams to win first.
 
RU has had huge athletic subsidies. At some point people need to donate to promote winning instead if waiting for teams to win first.
You missed the point of my post. If RU and NJ had invested in both Football and Basketball 35 years ago we would have won much more and alumni would have given much more. There would be no subsidy. What will help us alot will be the additional B1G money coming in 2021(?).
 
You missed the point of my post. If RU and NJ had invested in both Football and Basketball 35 years ago we would have won much more and alumni would have given much more. There would be no subsidy. What will help us alot will be the additional B1G money coming in 2021(?).

I did not miss your point, the subsidy is an investment in the athletic department from the university. What has been missing have been donations from the fan base to pay for facilities and things like coaches salaries and buyouts, if necessary.
 
I did not miss your point, the subsidy is an investment in the athletic department from the university. What has been missing have been donations from the fan base to pay for facilities and things like coaches salaries and buyouts, if necessary.

It is an investment, yes. And donations have been missing, yes.

However, history cannot be ignored.

If I have a leaking pipe under my sink, I pay to fix it. I don't just let it be and hope it improves on its own. Over time, that leak will get worse, and it will start to cause water damage, etc, etc... and eventually the cost will grow to fix the problem. Instead of fixing a washer, it might be replacing the wood under the sink, the subfloor, and the ceiling of the room below.

Rutgers neglected its programs for far too long, and now are trying to pay to fix them - and it's costing far more than it would have (subsidy) than if they had invested all along for the last 35 years.

And if it had invested all along, the donation rate would likely be higher than it is, too.
 
It is an investment, yes. And donations have been missing, yes.

However, history cannot be ignored.

If I have a leaking pipe under my sink, I pay to fix it. I don't just let it be and hope it improves on its own. Over time, that leak will get worse, and it will start to cause water damage, etc, etc... and eventually the cost will grow to fix the problem. Instead of fixing a washer, it might be replacing the wood under the sink, the subfloor, and the ceiling of the room below.

Rutgers neglected its programs for far too long, and now are trying to pay to fix them - and it's costing far more than it would have (subsidy) than if they had invested all along for the last 35 years.

And if it had invested all along, the donation rate would likely be higher than it is, too.

What would be the source of these investment funds? We already had one of the highest subsidies in the country.

Rutgers biggest problem has always been revenues, which include donations.
 
Here is a study by Berkeley that concludes the following:

For FBS schools, our results reveal that winning football games increases alumni athletic donations, enhances a school’s academic reputation, increases the number of applicants and in-state students, reduces acceptance rates, and raises average incoming SAT scores

Here is the study:
http://are.berkeley.edu/~mlanderson/pdf/Anderson College Sports.pdf
 
What would be the source of these investment funds? We already had one of the highest subsidies in the country.

Rutgers biggest problem has always been revenues, which include donations.

We had one of the highest subsidies in the country in 1980? In 1985? In 1990? In 1995? In 2000?

We started actively spending serious money only for the last 10-15 years or so, peaking in 2013, and that has been focused almost entirely on football (for good reason).

The last serious money we put into basketball was in 1977 when the RAC was built. It didn't even have air conditioning until this year. There was no investment over time in improvements to facilities for basketball (or for coaching salaries), and the program slowly deteriorated. Now that we've turned our attention to the problem, it has caused much more damage than it would have if we had spent some money on it between 1977 and the last few years.

While the program deteriorated, so too did alumni support. Donations waned, season tickets waned, overall ticket/concession revenue waned, recruiting waned... all while programs around us were beefing up their programs and we fell further and further behind. We were penny wise, but pound foolish.
 
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chris is so right--the number giving is too low--and everybody knew way back when how to donate to the build fund--900 or so "regular" people gave--there are over 15000 on these boards right now--can we even make it to 7500 givers from these 15000???
 
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It is an investment, yes. And donations have been missing, yes.

However, history cannot be ignored.

If I have a leaking pipe under my sink, I pay to fix it. I don't just let it be and hope it improves on its own. Over time, that leak will get worse, and it will start to cause water damage, etc, etc... and eventually the cost will grow to fix the problem. Instead of fixing a washer, it might be replacing the wood under the sink, the subfloor, and the ceiling of the room below.

Rutgers neglected its programs for far too long, and now are trying to pay to fix them - and it's costing far more than it would have (subsidy) than if they had invested all along for the last 35 years.

And if it had invested all along, the donation rate would likely be higher than it is, too.


this is an outstanding post. It hits the nail on the head and its alarming that RU just trudged along without investing in anything other than football
 
RU has had huge athletic subsidies. At some point people need to donate to promote winning instead if waiting for teams to win first.


the problem was RU's half assed support of athletics...that prevented any donors from supporting this program..there was no direction right from the top...Bloustein may have liked sports but he and Fred G were clueless on what to do..starting with the decline of the Big East invitation...you want to know people didnt donate...well there is your answer
 
chris is so right--the number giving is too low--and everybody knew way back when how to donate to the build fund--900 or so "regular" people gave--there are over 15000 on these boards right now--can we even make it to 7500 givers from these 15000???


I cant believe I am agreeing with you
 
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