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[KaKaKen]

I love the Ash hire but everyone has fallen in love with Coach Ash over how he handled his press conference.

Need I remind you that Coach Flood was an excellent public speaker. In fact, one of the things I loved about Flood is that he demanded public speaking skills from his players which is so important in the real world after football

 

[AreYouNUTS]

I love the Ash hire but everyone has fallen in love with Coach Ash over how he handled his press conference.

Need I remind you that Coach Flood was an excellent public speakerll

Lol says who? He was about as inspiring as a naked photo of Janine Garafalo.

 

[lighty]

Need we remind you that Ash was chosen after a legitimate coaching search. Flood was the last guy in the room in a panic situation...

 

[brodo]

I haven't felt this good immediately after a new coach was introduced since Terry Shea so I will temper my enthusiasm.

 

[RutgersRaRa]

Lol says who? He was about as inspiring as a naked photo of Janine Garafalo.

Damn, that is some rough talk right there. Just, damn.

 

[RU4Real]

*sigh*

 

[greenknight]

How did you get my naked picture of Janine Garafalo

 

[ClassOf02]

Kiss my Ash!

 

[AreYouNUTS]

How did you get my naked picture of Janine Garafalo

There wasn't one of Sandra Bernhardt available.

 

[RUsSKii]

Bullshit like "Gives us the best chance to go 1-0" and "we didn't want to interrupt his learning" is still bullshit, no matter how good of a public speaker former coach Flood was.

 

[Caliknight]

Flood's speaking wasn't the problem. He was eloquent for a coach.

It was the content that was the problem.

 

[devoted2ru]

If KF's coaching skills had been anywhere near his speaking skills he would have probably been in fine shape. -But those two things weren't even remotely close to each other.

 

[ruteelrice]

I will say this about Flood. He had an impressive ability to be an eloquent speaker while also sounding like a complete moron.

 

[seels2662]

I think the OP has an upper body

 

[Veiox]

I love the Ash hire but everyone has fallen in love with Coach Ash over how he handled his press conference.

Need I remind you that Coach Flood was an excellent public speaker. In fact, one of the things I loved about Flood is that he demanded public speaking skills from his players which is so important in the real world after football

Listen KaKa[poop], we understand your role as Eeyore on this board, but take a break for awhile because we are finally heading in the right direction.

 

[devoted2ru]

I will say this about Flood. He had an impressive ability to be an eloquent speaker while also sounding like a complete moron.

Very true. A lot of times what he said seemed to be completely out of touch with reality. -But he did say it well.

 

[Veiox]

I will say this about Flood. He had an impressive ability to be an eloquent speaker while also sounding like a complete moron.

At least he was 1-0 in speaking eloquently.

 

[Blitz8RUCrazy]

I will say this about Flood. He had an impressive ability to be an eloquent speaker while also sounding like a complete moron.

Flood always came across as a very confident moron.

 

[herdof3]

Need we remind you that Ash was chosen after a legitimate coaching search. Flood was the last guy in the room in a panic situation...

This is why I never understood why people thought at any point that he needed "more time".

Thank God that era is over.

 

[bobbuffaloRU]

No need to beat on Flood any more; he's gone.

 

[pancakeman86]

Fire flood! (from wherever he may be)

 

[NickyNewark51]

I love the Ash hire but everyone has fallen in love with Coach Ash over how he handled his press conference.

Need I remind you that Coach Flood was an excellent public speaker. In fact, one of the things I loved about Flood is that he demanded public speaking skills from his players which is so important in the real world after football

Yes BS is quite helpful on the journey through life...unfortunately you need coaching skills as a HC.

 

[Pritz99]

NUTS....How long did it take to come up with Janine Garafolo?

 

[wheezer]

Damn, that is some rough talk right there. Just, damn.

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Godammit.... Where is my pepto bismol?

 

[derleider]

Lol says who? He was about as inspiring as a naked photo of Janine Garafalo.

LOL. Probably says you at the time. Alot of people on this board should be thankful that the boards memory doesnt go back this far, because people were falling all over themselves after Flood's initial presser about how fresh he was, how he didnt use a bunch of Schianoisms, was more honest, more direct, just the guy we needed to keep building on Schiano's legacy, etc.

Thats not a knock against Ash. Being inspiring is part of being a coach. But its certainly not the whole story, as this boards reaction to Flood shows. Mostly people like to be hopeful.

 

[jlariv9]

I love the Ash hire but everyone has fallen in love with Coach Ash over how he handled his press conference.

Need I remind you that Coach Flood was an excellent public speaker. In fact, one of the things I loved about Flood is that he demanded public speaking skills from his players which is so important in the real world after football

"Need I remind you that Coach Flood was an excellent public speaker" - No, because that's the first I've heard that statement.

 

[Randal7]

Flood had a weird, rushed, unconfident verbal delivery. Especially rushed. Never liked it. It seems like he lacks assurance in his words.

Ash is great. He will be even better when he gets comfortable.

 

[RutgersRaRa]

Okay, so this thread is emblematic of the dysfunctionality of our Rutgers community: KaKaKen, who named himself after the stuttering character in the movie A Fish Called Wanda, in the middle of our collective glee about our new coach started a thread on the comparative value of the elocution of Flood and Ash and on the value of public speaking in general. Alrighty then.

In a related topic, I know what I'm getting myself for Christmas:

 

[Ajwich]

So it would be better if Ash were an inarticulate idiot. What a mindless post.

 

[RutgersRaRa]

There wasn't one of Sandra Bernhardt available.

Nuts is NOT messing around people!!! Please, for the love of everything holy, do not invite him to put any more images into my mind. He is locked and loaded.

 

[AreYouNUTS]

No need to beat on Flood any more; he's gone.

Oh please let's stop with the Flood "lovefest"crap. People rip on Shea, people rip on Schiano, all the time, so what does it matter?

 

[RUJohnny99]

Lol says who? He was about as inspiring as a naked photo of Janine Garafalo.

Would.

Garafolo, not Flood.

 

[bamrinnj706]

I never understood the love with Flood's press conferences. Even in his initial press conference, I remember thinking he didn't have much of a "presence" or really had a handle on how to make things progress. Obviously this didn't change throughout his time in charge.

I just assumed maybe I was missing something.

Ash to me has a "presence."

 

[DJ Spanky]

I haven't felt this good immediately after a new coach was introduced since Terry Shea so I will temper my enthusiasm.

Shock and Awe, baby! Shock and Awe.

 

[ScarletCrimson]

don't let the door hit your ash on the way out.

 

[brgossRU90]

It's true you don't win games with press conferences. We're mostly going to have to wait now to see what he can really do. I'd like to see a few last minute things with recruiting, though, to get a sense that he can make things happen in new jersey and maybe in some other big ten states where he has connections.

 

[PiscatawayMike]

Lol says who? He was about as inspiring as a naked photo of Janine Garafalo.

When was the photo taken? I'd pass on a current photo, but I wouldn't turn down one from 20 years ago...

 

[lighty]

LOL. Probably says you at the time. Alot of people on this board should be thankful that the boards memory doesnt go back this far, because people were falling all over themselves after Flood's initial presser about how fresh he was, how he didnt use a bunch of Schianoisms, was more honest, more direct, just the guy we needed to keep building on Schiano's legacy, etc.

Thats not a knock against Ash. Being inspiring is part of being a coach. But its certainly not the whole story, as this boards reaction to Flood shows. Mostly people like to be hopeful.

There was an equal amount of people who thought Flood should have been fired as OL coach years earlier who HATED him being named head coach.

 

[c_husk]

NUTS....How long did it take to come up with Janine Garafolo?

Who is Janine Garafolo?

 

[cohwx]

Flood always came across as a very confident moron.

Worst kind of moron!

It didn't come across so much as confident to me, maybe more like stubborn. Almost lacking confidence, really...rather than take a risk and honestly address a question or issue, he would just resort to his catch phrases ("Chris Laviano is our starting QB" in reply to any QB related question, for example)

Toward the end he almost looked robotic up there, there was a sad vacant type of look that he had as he went through his list of canned responses.

Ash, on the other hand, had a presence that Flood never had, even on his best day. I'm very excited about the direction of the program.