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Holloway

He lost to Fordham, Monmouth and some other small school I can't think of already this year. Yeah great job coaching
Again, he has nothing. If you've played or coached beyond high school then the ability level between the two is obvious.
 
If you know the game, you see the difference between the two. You obviously don't know the game that well.
 
The irony of this thread is that if we lost, there would be numerous posts about how SHU is better than their losses and it's not as bad a loss.

But since we barely won at home, they are a terrible team and Holloway is a terrible coach.
If they are so bad, why did we need a buzzer beater 3 at home to win?
 
I am not even sure why I am chiming in on this ridiculous thread.

Quick question: Who won the game? Case closed.

Your view Holloway is better than Pikiell after losing to RU is like saying that Pikiell is better than the Alabama coach and the Texas A&M coach because RU almost won each of those games, despite having less overall talent. Which may be true, but I doubt anyone would actually believe that.

You measure coaches by whether they WIN or LOSE. Many RU head coaches have been fired, as they should have been, because they did not win enough.

Holloway has an overall coaching record of 111-90 - a nice record. He has taken his teams to ONE NCAA (St. Peter's, who did have that great run), 2 NIT's, and 4 winning records in 6 years as a head coach - not bad. Pikiell has a record of 334-301 - a slightly lower winning percentage but 3 times as many wins (more years) ... Pikiell has taken his teams to 4 NIT's and 4 NCAA's ... in 19 seasons Pikiell has 11 winning records ... and look at the teams Pikiell inherited: Stony Brook, where Pikiell basically had to create the program from scratch (just 5 years after they had been Division II), and had winning records his last 5 seasons at Stony Brook - winning 22 or more games each of those seasons, and 22 or more in 6 of his last 7 seasons at Stony Brook ... and for RU: Pikiell; got RU to the NCAA for the 1st time in 29 years ... 29! ... And back to back NCAA tournaments for the 1st time since the 1970's.

Talk to me when Holloway gets SHU to the NCAA at all, let alone multiple times.
 
The irony of this thread is that if we lost, there would be numerous posts about how SHU is better than their losses and it's not as bad a loss.

But since we barely won at home, they are a terrible team and Holloway is a terrible coach.
If they are so bad, why did we need a buzzer beater 3 at home to win?

Why are you trying to make this thread something it's not? OP is saying Pike is a terrible coach and we shpuld replace him with Hollaway.....you seem to agree.
 
Why are you trying to make thisbthread something it's not? OP is saying Pike is a terrible coach and we shpuld replace him with Hollaway.....you seem to agree.

Where? I'll wait.....
Never came close to saying that.

Commenting on all the "Holloway is terrible and lost to Monmouth" posts that would have definitely not occurred if we lost.
 
I am not even sure why I am chiming in on this ridiculous thread.

Quick question: Who won the game? Case closed.

Your view Holloway is better than Pikiell after losing to RU is like saying that Pikiell is better than the Alabama coach and the Texas A&M coach because RU almost won each of those games, despite having less overall talent. Which may be true, but I doubt anyone would actually believe that.

You measure coaches by whether they WIN or LOSE. Many RU head coaches have been fired, as they should have been, because they did not win enough.

Holloway has an overall coaching record of 111-90 - a nice record. He has taken his teams to ONE NCAA (St. Peter's, who did have that great run), 2 NIT's, and 4 winning records in 6 years as a head coach - not bad. Pikiell has a record of 334-301 - a slightly lower winning percentage but 3 times as many wins (more years) ... Pikiell has taken his teams to 4 NIT's and 4 NCAA's ... in 19 seasons Pikiell has 11 winning records ... and look at the teams Pikiell inherited: Stony Brook, where Pikiell basically had to create the program from scratch (just 5 years after they had been Division II), and had winning records his last 5 seasons at Stony Brook - winning 22 or more games each of those seasons, and 22 or more in 6 of his last 7 seasons at Stony Brook ... and for RU: Pikiell; got RU to the NCAA for the 1st time in 29 years ... 29! ... And back to back NCAA tournaments for the 1st time since the 1970's.

Talk to me when Holloway gets SHU to the NCAA at all, let alone multiple times.

Your entire post makes complete sense except for that 1st question and answer.
KSU beat us - that doesn't make their coach better than HC Pike.

It takes a full resume evaluation like you provided.
 
Where? I'll wait.....
Never came close to saying that.

Commenting on all the "Holloway is terrible and lost to Monmouth" posts that would have definitely not occurred if we lost.

So what. If we lost to Monmouth people would be commenting that Pike is terrible. Hell, we beat Monmouth and also just beat SHU and some want Pike's head on a platter. Instead of trying to create a hypothetical sticking up for the Hollaway, why not just address the OP who is saying Pike is terrible.
 
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So what. If we lost to Monmouth people would be commenting that Pike is terrible. Hell, we beat Monmouth and also just beat SHU and some want Pike's head on a platter. Instead of trying to create a hypothetical sticking up for the Hollaway, why not just address the OP who is saying Pike is terrible.

Oh this is only game I've seen of SHU this year.
No idea how to compare.

It was a terrible decision to launch an early 3 on the next tonlast SHU possession. They got bailed out by Harper missing 2 FTs.
Much better last play to take it inside.
But again awful last play defende. Have to force the ball out of Dylan's hand. Holloway pulled the 2nd defender out of the back court and gave Dylan a free catch and dribble upcourt.
 
Rutgers clearly is a flawed team which is the reason they are unable to have decisive wins at home .The problem is that Dailey and Harper will probably need to score at least 50 points to have a double digit win.The last two games at the RAC fans saw some of the worse foul shooting in the history of Rutgers basketball.
 
Actually no. That's called NIL these days unfortunately.

Coaches might be limited to what NIL funding is available from their fans and boosters, but they are still responsible for finding, recruiting and bringing in the players.
 
Coaches might be limited to what NIL funding is available from their fans and boosters, but they are still responsible for finding, recruiting and bringing in the players.
Yup. Don't know how he "found" Bailey. He didn't "find" Dylan given the history.. But honestly I think his best job was all the rest. I think he ( and probably more his assistants) did a heck of a good job there and my issue is team play.
 
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