Holloway

[fluoxetine]

"Why oh why can't we have the 5-7 coach with the #289 offense?" asks noted ****ing idiot RutgersChow.

 

[ru66]

Try reading the Hall board-- they're disgusted with him. Typical grass is greener crowd around here.Insane.

 

[Westcoast]

Isn't it a HC job to bring in the talent?

Not for nuthin, but someone posted The Hall has 4 top 100 players on their roster, which is more than we do (if accurate).

 

[Good-Knight]

Don't give me the "You backed over my dog" look every time I miss a free throw. It leaves you no where to raise things when I actually do back over your dog. Personally I need a coach who calms down my own over reaction and builds me up. I know SHU players like Holloway but it would not be for me.

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

Holloway is an excellent coach who brought a St. Peters Team to the Elite 8. He should have earned an NCAA bid last year but instead won an NIT Championship. Holloway is tough to play for because he is a perfectionist and rides his players hard in practice. Those who stick with him get better (eg. Davis, Richmond, Samuels and Coleman). The players transferring out of the program were either non-power 6 players or received large offers from another school that SHU couldn't match (e.g. Davis and Richmond). That's the problem Shaheen has this year and beyond. SHU probably has the smallest NIL budget in the Big East. He therefore had to gamble on players who were highly ranked in high school but had below par freshmen seasons at their respective schools (e.g. Middleton, Yaldon, Dual, and Harmon). Thus far, his recruiting strategy has failed. Saturday's game againstRutgers was the best his team played all year so there's hope for a turnaround. Unfortunately, Shaheen has to be thinking about going to another school with a large NIL budget. He's very loyale to SHU but he has to think about his career in coaching going forward.

I think everything in here is 100% correct except he has to think about his coaching career going forward.

George Blaney
Louis Orr
Bobby Gonzalez
Kevin Willard
Shaheen Holloway.

For the most part I can argue that the coaches have been solid to good on paper.

The general concern in how fans take ONE game and ignore the other 11 is wild.

If I said to RU fans that we should look solely at how RU played Bama or Texas A&M and ignore the other 9 games, would be burned to the ground here.

There's an absolute lack of reality about how Holloway outcoacbed Pike, when a player got an uncontested dunk on a drive and a handful for curls for drives and drop offs for dunks.....if that's coaching, OK.....LOL

The RU team went 13-28 from the FT line and would have won by 10 to 11, with a normal FT shooting outing.

The other major issue is where Chow and others are lost here.....Seton Hall has NO 2025 HS recruits committed. In a day and age where it's a Big East school AND the school claims to be NIL strapped, how do you approach a 2025-26 season, with no HS recruits??

It is far more likely that a program plucks away a starter from SHU, if the season continues downhill......AND the answer is to

A) Overpay to keep that player..

B) Lose that player and have to overpay to get a similar player via the portal.

In BOTH instances, it's possible that a player coming into SHU via the portal is going to ask "what players are going to be here next year"???.....and the player that is productive and has years left will ask the coach, "Are we getting other players to help turn things around"???

I know there are fans in love with complaining about NIL, but it's coaching malpractice to not have a couple of HS recruits in each and every class, even if it's for depth purposes.

For the "Holloway outcoached Pike" crowd, the team is 5-7 & i don't see a clear direction on where they are going this year or next year. At least to me, there should be SOMETHING to build around beyond whatever the portal brings in a few months.

Then Holloway will have who to blame exactly?? It could be lack of NIL, could be Under Armour....could be any number of things.

All I know is recruiting and having a plan is 80% of the sport. And right now anyone can complain about the other 20% (NIL, game management, etc). If you don't recruit, how good of a coach can you actually be, in a Power type conference??

 

[NewJerseyHawk]

Not for nuthin, but someone posted The Hall has 4 top 100 players on their roster, which is more than we do (if accurate).

They do and they're all 2023 portal transfers. The question is, what core players are going to support those players that were holdover pieces from the prior 2 or 3 classes.

In actuality, both SHU and RU HS recruiting in 2021 to 2023, has put both programs in a bind, because those players are not upperclassmen, helping build a beidge on how the staff wants things to look.....,but SHU attempted to fix it, by bringing in 4 portal kids that were all Top 120 rated.

To say that and then compliment the coach, when they're 5-7, is wild to me.....how some fans view one game and nothing else, makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[LotusAggressor]

Sore lover?

I think there's a cream for that.