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How Long Could the Flood Email Investigation Possibly Take?

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The University said it initiated an outside investigation immediately after learning of incident. It seems to me that there are only 3 significant things to do to complete the investigation:

1. Read the email.
2. Speak with the professor.
3. Speak with Flood

Why or how could this possibly take more than a week? Now that the news has gone public it is in everyone's best interest to have this situation resolved and move on ASAP. The longer it lingers the more negative publicity it and NJ.com will generate.
 
Exactly, just show the email to the public. It would save time and money. The longer this drags on the worse.
 
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1) outside law firm looking to drive billable hours
2) scandal-averse university
3) a university leader who doesn't know what to make of an athletic program

Me thinks it shall take a while!
 
1) outside law firm looking to drive billable hours
2) scandal-averse university
3) a university leader who doesn't know what to make of an athletic program

Me thinks it shall take a while!
The powers that be would have to be idiots to allow a law firm to drag this out to generate more billable hours....as investigations go it doesn't get any more basic than this. I do agree that once the findings are in the university may be hesitant to make them public if it they will result in a PR nightmare, It is still in their best interest to make a determination, take the necessary corrective action, and move forward.
 
Nj.com just loves this shit. How many freaking investigations is this school going to have to conduct that turn up nothing because of that damn media outlet. Strip their credentials for week 1
 
"One of the people with knowledge of the situation told NJ Advance Media the investigation is expected to be concluded quickly."

aka : nothing much to the bullcrap, but the Ledger will take as many quick clicks as possible til its cleared up, just like in the Jevon Tyree bogus bullcrap.
 
Agree completey. This should be wrapped up quickly. The "investigator" needs to read the email. Speak to the professor to see if Flood or anyone from the staff had any other contact with him about Barnwell. Speak to Flood about why he sent the email. If this isn't clarified by early next week there is something really screwed up.
 
Agree completey. This should be wrapped up quickly. The "investigator" needs to read the email. Speak to the professor to see if Flood or anyone from the staff had any other contact with him about Barnwell. Speak to Flood about why he sent the email. If this isn't clarified by early next week there is something really screwed up.
I'm thinking by the end of this week. They had this info for over a week already. How does quickly performing those 3 action items take even as long as it has already taken? This should be on a super fastrack...1 day to digest the email, 1 day to discuss with the professor, 1 day to discuss with Flood...and that's being generous.
 
Do we know how this situation came to light? Did the professor in question drop a dime on Flood and indicate that he felt threatened by the email? If that is the case and I am genuinely just asking the question then this will take longer and there would be pressure on the University to take some action even if just a reprimand. Presumably this was not self reported by KF because he seems to acknowledge having regular conversations with professors and did not make any attempt to say those conversations were general in nature and not about specific players.
 
Flood said he wasn't even aware of an investigation. Where has it been stated definitively that there is one, outside of the hatchet job by the SL?

If there is, there will be a bunch of lawyers milking the school for $500/hr. only to come back to recommend that Flood not email professors from his personal account.
 
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The University said it initiated an outside investigation immediately after learning of incident. It seems to me that there are only 3 significant things to do to complete the investigation:

1. Read the email.
2. Speak with the professor.
3. Speak with Flood

Why or how could this possibly take more than a week? Now that the news has gone public it is in everyone's best interest to have this situation resolved and move on ASAP. The longer it lingers the more negative publicity it and NJ.com will generate.
apparently you have not operated in a highly regulated business environment where compliance was expected to be 100%. Most large businesses and universities have a compliance arm that reports to the Board and not the CEO. Investigators on the compliance committee are usually from HR and legal. They may talk with every professor who teaches a Rutgers football player to see if there is a pattern of behavior here. The can of worms has been opened, it can't be swept under the rug.
 
Flood said he wasn't even aware of an investigation. Where has it been stated definitively that there is one, outside of the hatchet job by the SL?

If there is, there will be a bunch of lawyers milking the school for $500/hr. only to come back to recommend that Flood not email professors from his personal account.
The University released a statement today that they initiated an outside investigation upon being made aware of the situation last . NJ.com is making an issue of the email coming from his personal account like this is some national security level information being email. I agree...tell Flood to have his academic advisor make contact in the future and if you must please use your university account and lets move on.
 
Apparently this came to the university's attention roughly a week ago, soon after summer session ended on the 13th
 
there will be a bunch of lawyers milking the school for $500/hr. only to come back to recommend that Flood not email professors from his personal account.

This is my biggest fear. The fact that theyre using an outside council means that this could possibly drag on for months when it could all be over in weeks. Jevon Tyree f*ckery 2.0. I dont want there to be a black cloud over our program for the rest of the year and recruiting cycle only for them to say there was no real wrongdoing. UGH. As if things weren't tough enough..
 
Flood said he wasn't even aware of an investigation. Where has it been stated definitively that there is one, outside of the hatchet job by the SL?

If there is, there will be a bunch of lawyers milking the school for $500/hr. only to come back to recommend that Flood not email professors from his personal account.
This blew my mind,how can there be no contact with Flood for over a week? Unreal. I never like to hear that, since that might mean they are building a case against him.F'n joke.
 
The University said it initiated an outside investigation immediately after learning of incident. It seems to me that there are only 3 significant things to do to complete the investigation:

1. Read the email.
2. Speak with the professor.
3. Speak with Flood

Why or how could this possibly take more than a week? Now that the news has gone public it is in everyone's best interest to have this situation resolved and move on ASAP. The longer it lingers the more negative publicity it and NJ.com will generate.

I said the same thing about the Deflategate investigation. Speak to Brady, speak to the ball boys, speak to the equipment guys, get the phone records. This took over 6 months. Crazy.
 
From personal knowledge, Rutgers works in a very ineffective way as it relates to its coaches. They will always err on the side of those doing the investigation.

This should be the easiest investigation in the world, but you can guarantee that once these lawyers are involved, the billable hours are going be racked up.

The fact that it is assumed to be a problem when a coach emails a professor is so stupid. Coaches, especially a guy like Flood, is an educator, or should be viewed as such. Contacting another university employee should be an expectation, not something to be chastised for.

And who is the professor. I want a name.
 
I can't take this seriously until we know more. But RU hiring an outside counsel makes me think this will not end soon. I tend to think that the RU Administration will likely eff this up when it should be over already.

CYA seems to be the marching orders at RU. The lack of leadership at RU continues to be a serious problem. Putting this matter into the hands of outside attorneys is a recipe for disaster for RU IMHO.
 
Barchi formed an ethics and compliance department for the university in 2013. Umm, wouldn't this be something that those paid beurocrats could handle?

http://erm.rutgers.edu/
 
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apparently you have not operated in a highly regulated business environment where compliance was expected to be 100%. Most large businesses and universities have a compliance arm that reports to the Board and not the CEO. Investigators on the compliance committee are usually from HR and legal. They may talk with every professor who teaches a Rutgers football player to see if there is a pattern of behavior here. The can of worms has been opened, it can't be swept under the rug.
Yet they can't investigate in a timely fashion or even handle it themselves.
 
I actually like the investigation for this. What would really damage the school is "Second professor comes forward with email" They need to search all of Floods emails, find every time he contacted an educator, and review them all. If anything bad happened, you say "we found X and this is how we are dealing with it." If nothing happened you release the email in question and say "this bullshit is case closed."

It seems like the school is finally getting out in front of something, rather than waiting for the other shoe to drop. There might be hope for them yet.
 
Yet they can't investigate in a timely fashion or even handle it themselves.

You don't handle it yourself, because you can't handle it yourself. This is honestly compliance 101. You need it to be credible so you pay some lawyers to write up a report. The school is not sweating the $30k it will take to resolve this. I am sure the investigation is being expedited which will keep costs down.
 
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